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Topic: 'Western powers antithetical to peace in Syria'
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Sat 08/11/12 12:32 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 08/11/12 12:37 PM
Hillary Clinton's discussion of a no-fly zone over Syria is a violation of the UN charter of the Geneva Accords, journalist and activist Don DeBar told RT.

The US Secretary of State discussed plans to undermine the Syrian government, during a meeting with Turkey's Foreign Minister on Saturday.

Clinton and her Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoglu, indicated they are exploring a number of measures to aid the Syrian opposition, Reuters reported. Don DeBar spoke to RT about the involvement of western powers in the Syrian conflict.

Hillary in Turkey.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLowYuwmGaI&feature=em-uploademail


(Aiding the Syrian opposition is the same as aiding the Muslim Brotherhood.)

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Sat 08/11/12 12:36 PM
laugh laugh laugh

He said in the video:

The nature of the "defections" from Syria are simply people who are being "purchased." (BRIBED)

Typical Cabal method of operation. Purchase them with worthless fiat and paper money.

laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 08/11/12 12:40 PM
We should go over there and bomb the h--- out of the government.

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Sat 08/11/12 01:22 PM
Why, if the enemy is Islamic terrorism, has the United States invested so much blood and treasure against the PLO, Iraq, and Libya, and now Syria, all mideast secular governments?

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Sat 08/11/12 01:43 PM

Why, if the enemy is Islamic terrorism, has the United States invested so much blood and treasure against the PLO, Iraq, and Libya, and now Syria, all mideast secular governments?

War profiteering.

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Sat 08/11/12 01:45 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 08/11/12 01:47 PM

We should go over there and bomb the h--- out of the government.


No, we shouldn't

Assad is a very popular president.
The so-called "revolution" are people stirring up trouble and trying to cause chaos and a civil war so they can overthrow yet another middle eastern country and ruin it with worthless fiat paper money.

IT IS NOT A CIVIL WAR. It is a coup.... orchestrated by Zionists, and the Muslim Brotherhood is helping.

It is the corporate globalist who are running the show.

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Sat 08/11/12 01:49 PM

We should go over there and bomb the h--- out of the government.


I would like to think that you are joking?

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Sat 08/11/12 01:49 PM
If Romney looses then we will have a coup in this country

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Sat 08/11/12 01:56 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 08/11/12 01:58 PM

If Romney looses then we will have a coup in this country


Romney or Obama..... they are the same. They serve the corporation, they serve wall street, they serve their masters, the Banksters.

Goldman Sachs supports both of them. That's why they did not "find enough evidence" to convict them of bank fraud and market manipulation etc.



Mitt Romney's top donor is Goldman Sachs, and also one of Obama's best donors.

Ex-CEO of Goldman Sachs, Hank Paulson became the Secretary of Treasury under Bush and
during the 2008 financial crisis authored the TARP bill demanding $700 billion bail-out.
In UK, Goldman Sachs escaped £10 million bill on a failed tax avoidance scheme with help of good connections.
The bank is the largest player in the food commodities market, earned $955m from food speculation in 2009" - That's your $$$.
Goldman Sachs employees are arming themselves with guns in case there is a populist uprising against the bank.
Goldman Sachs calls their investors "muppets". and use clients to make money for themselves, disregarding the clients.
The bank was fined $22 million for sharing valuable nonpublic information with top clients (Think insider trading with best clients).
Goldman Sachs was part-owner America's leading website for prostitution ads until the ownership stake was exposed.
Goldman Sachs helped Greece conceal its debt with secret loans, while simultaneously taking advantage of Greece.
Goldman Sachs got a $814 billion SECRET bailout from the Federal Reserve during the 2008 crisis.
Goldman Sachs got $10 billion of the 2008 TARP bailout, and in the same year paid $10.9 billion in employee compensation and "benefits", while paying a tax rate of 1%. That means an average of $327,000 to each Goldman Sach's employee.


BANKSTERS OWN THE PRESIDENT, NO MATTER WHO HE IS.


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Sat 08/11/12 02:06 PM
Lets all agree on This at least.


BANKSTERS OWN THE PRESIDENT, NO MATTER WHO HE IS.

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Sat 08/11/12 02:14 PM

If Romney looses then we will have a coup in this country


Bring it on.....can't wait for anarchy.

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Sat 08/11/12 02:47 PM


We should go over there and bomb the h--- out of the government.


I would like to think that you are joking?
actually he is right,saves Trouble later!pitchfork

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Sat 08/11/12 03:46 PM


If Romney looses then we will have a coup in this country


Bring it on.....can't wait for anarchy.


bigsmile

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Sun 08/12/12 04:27 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Sun 08/12/12 05:19 PM
Western powers?

So, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar & China have nothing to with the current political situation in Syria?

No, they are either openly supporting and supplying the rebels or Assad's government while those of the above on the UN Security Council deliberately hamper the peace process.

In addition, Russia Today is a tabloid on par with News OF The World and highly questionable as a valid source.

"Russia Today was conceived as a soft-power tool to improve Russia’s image abroad, to counter the anti-Russian bias the Kremlin saw in the Western media. Since its founding in 2005, however, the broadcast outlet has become better known as an extension of former President Vladimir Putin’s confrontational foreign policy. Too often the channel was provocative just for the sake of being provocative. It featured fringe-dwelling “experts,” like the Russian historian who predicted the imminent dissolution of the United States; broadcast bombastic speeches by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez; aired ads conflating Barack Obama with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; and ran out-of-nowhere reports on the homeless in America. Often, it seemed that Russia Today was just a way to stick it to the U.S. from behind the façade of legitimate newsgathering."

http://www.cjr.org/feature/what_is_russia_today.php?page=all

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Sun 08/12/12 06:29 PM
"Western Powers" include their puppet regimes.

Too often the channel was provocative just for the sake of being provocative.


Oh right, and our news media never does that sort of thing.


buuahahahahah! laugh laugh


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Sun 08/12/12 06:36 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/12/12 06:39 PM
It featured fringe-dwelling “experts,” like the Russian historian who predicted the imminent dissolution of the United States;


Many many many people have and still are predicting that. And like the Roman Empire, it is probably inevitible. Have a little patience before you crucify the prophets.



"....broadcast bombastic speeches by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez;


Chavez, who successfully defeated a CIA attempt at a coup to over throw him after he was democratically elected as president. BY HIS PEOPLE WHO for the most part, love him.


"...aired ads conflating Barack Obama with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; and ran out-of-nowhere reports on the homeless in America.


Yeh, and Americans just makes laws against the homeless sleeping in the streets and chase them away from living under bridges, and in the underground sewers of big Cities.... and basically denies that we have any "homeless" people in America.

(I don't know who Mahamoud Ahmadinejad is...) I'll look him up.bigsmile


..."Often, it seemed that Russia Today was just a way to stick it to the U.S. from behind the façade of legitimate newsgathering."



If what they report is true, and I haven't seen any proof that it isn't, then its news as far as I am concerned.




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Sun 08/12/12 06:47 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/12/12 06:48 PM
Mahamoud Ahmadinejad

Sixth and current President of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Ahmadinejad is a controversial figure both within Iran and internationally. He has been criticized domestically for his economic lapses and disregard for human rights.

Barak Obama 44th President of the United States of America, also accused of abuse of human rights.

A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.

Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."


And both of them are Presidents.

I can see a similarity.

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Mon 08/13/12 12:07 AM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Mon 08/13/12 12:23 AM

It featured fringe-dwelling “experts,” like the Russian historian who predicted the imminent dissolution of the United States;


Many many many people have and still are predicting that. And like the Roman Empire, it is probably inevitible. Have a little patience before you crucify the prophets.



"....broadcast bombastic speeches by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez;


Chavez, who successfully defeated a CIA attempt at a coup to over throw him after he was democratically elected as president. BY HIS PEOPLE WHO for the most part, love him.


"...aired ads conflating Barack Obama with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; and ran out-of-nowhere reports on the homeless in America.


Yeh, and Americans just makes laws against the homeless sleeping in the streets and chase them away from living under bridges, and in the underground sewers of big Cities.... and basically denies that we have any "homeless" people in America.

(I don't know who Mahamoud Ahmadinejad is...) I'll look him up.bigsmile


..."Often, it seemed that Russia Today was just a way to stick it to the U.S. from behind the façade of legitimate newsgathering."



If what they report is true, and I haven't seen any proof that it isn't, then its news as far as I am concerned.






All of which is largely irrelevant and has no bearing on the quality of journalism exhibited by Russia Today. You ignored the important section.

Russia Today was conceived as a soft-power tool to improve Russia’s image abroad, to counter the anti-Russian bias the Kremlin saw in the Western media. Since its founding in 2005, however, the broadcast outlet has become better known as an extension of former President Vladimir Putin’s confrontational foreign policy.

Now, Russia is a key player in this conflict and Russia Today is a mouthpiece for 'Putin's confrontational foreign policy', therefore, RT would produce an article in the interests of Russian manipulations in Syria, would it not? It's simple really, just apply a little critical thinking.

Russia Today is considered tabloid among academics in media studies and it doesn't take much to discern this. But then, one would have to be a student of media studies to be aware of this.

Psst! The Roman Empire never fell...that's just a myth. The Empire transformed, and we live in the legacy of this transformation.

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Mon 08/13/12 06:23 AM

Mahamoud Ahmadinejad

Sixth and current President of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Ahmadinejad is a controversial figure both within Iran and internationally. He has been criticized domestically for his economic lapses and disregard for human rights.

Barak Obama 44th President of the United States of America, also accused of abuse of human rights.

A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.

Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."


And both of them are Presidents.

I can see a similarity.



Sadly I have to admit that I have now lost all faith in Barack OBama.

I now put him in the same bracket as Tony Blair.

He has sold his soul to the Corporate Elite Cabal.

Money is The Root of ALL EVIL.

You Jeannie,have your finger on the pulse, the rest are playing catch-up.


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Mon 08/13/12 07:33 AM


It featured fringe-dwelling “experts,” like the Russian historian who predicted the imminent dissolution of the United States;


Many many many people have and still are predicting that. And like the Roman Empire, it is probably inevitible. Have a little patience before you crucify the prophets.



"....broadcast bombastic speeches by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez;


Chavez, who successfully defeated a CIA attempt at a coup to over throw him after he was democratically elected as president. BY HIS PEOPLE WHO for the most part, love him.


"...aired ads conflating Barack Obama with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; and ran out-of-nowhere reports on the homeless in America.


Yeh, and Americans just makes laws against the homeless sleeping in the streets and chase them away from living under bridges, and in the underground sewers of big Cities.... and basically denies that we have any "homeless" people in America.

(I don't know who Mahamoud Ahmadinejad is...) I'll look him up.bigsmile


..."Often, it seemed that Russia Today was just a way to stick it to the U.S. from behind the façade of legitimate newsgathering."



If what they report is true, and I haven't seen any proof that it isn't, then its news as far as I am concerned.






All of which is largely irrelevant and has no bearing on the quality of journalism exhibited by Russia Today. You ignored the important section.

Russia Today was conceived as a soft-power tool to improve Russia’s image abroad, to counter the anti-Russian bias the Kremlin saw in the Western media. Since its founding in 2005, however, the broadcast outlet has become better known as an extension of former President Vladimir Putin’s confrontational foreign policy.

Now, Russia is a key player in this conflict and Russia Today is a mouthpiece for 'Putin's confrontational foreign policy', therefore, RT would produce an article in the interests of Russian manipulations in Syria, would it not? It's simple really, just apply a little critical thinking.

Russia Today is considered tabloid among academics in media studies and it doesn't take much to discern this. But then, one would have to be a student of media studies to be aware of this.

Psst! The Roman Empire never fell...that's just a myth. The Empire transformed, and we live in the legacy of this transformation.



If the Corporate United States of American and their corporate leaders don't have their controlling fingers in our Jewish controlled corporate owned media then you can feel free to make comparisons.

Fox News is considered Tabloid. From what I see on the nightly news, even CNN, ABC, CBS etc. they all are great competitors for the Tabloid news about who is breaking up with who in hollywood.

And quite frankly, I appreciate hearing another side to the propaganda I am bombarded with every day in this country, regardless if anyone else thinks it reflects Vladimir Putin’s "confrontational " foreign policy.

Anyway, what is wrong with being confrontational? It is simply having a different point of view from someone else. Everyone has a right to their own points of view. The Corporations just don't like it when anyone else uses the Media as a mouth piece like they do.

Thats just too bad. They can't always have things their way.


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