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Topic: Are you indoctrinated by your government?
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Thu 08/23/12 12:58 PM
If you are, you won't like to hear this video

Message to the voting cattle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxIAuY9gq_Q

Chazster's photo
Thu 08/23/12 01:10 PM
Lol that guy doesn't live in a place I like to call reality. I assume he is an anarchist

Kleisto's photo
Thu 08/23/12 01:40 PM
Just proved her point chaz.

andrewzooms's photo
Thu 08/23/12 02:02 PM
Word for word what I think everyday. An amazing message.

Chazster's photo
Thu 08/23/12 02:09 PM

Just proved her point chaz.


Yes because objective people only see in black and white. You agree with me or you are under mind control. It says you believe this it that. What about non religious people? None of those points apply. Just because people vote doesn't mean they praise politicians. The guy is totally against any kind of law at all or any kind of government at all. I can say that without a government we wouldn't have a military. Without a military we would all be under the rule of Someone else. Japan would have taken us over during world war 2 if no one did it before then. You can't just very a governmentless society in a land so rich in resources and not be overrun. Look what happened to the native Americans.

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Thu 08/23/12 02:13 PM


Just proved her point chaz.


Yes because objective people only see in black and white. You agree with me or you are under mind control. It says you believe this it that. What about non religious people? None of those points apply. Just because people vote doesn't mean they praise politicians. The guy is totally against any kind of law at all or any kind of government at all. I can say that without a government we wouldn't have a military. Without a military we would all be under the rule of Someone else. Japan would have taken us over during world war 2 if no one did it before then. You can't just very a governmentless society in a land so rich in resources and not be overrun. Look what happened to the native Americans.


Funny you mention the Native Americans.....who took their land? WE DID!

Also.....you are being a hypocrite, because you and your type embody the very first line you claim those speaking against you do. We can't disagree with you, without you putting us down for doing so. So yeah, may wanna look at yourself first before you start throwing stones at us.

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Thu 08/23/12 02:16 PM
guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal

taxes arent 'stolen' money

guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation

politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen

cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs

people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim

most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,)


hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,???

,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want?

,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,,


,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,,

,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more

I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,,



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Thu 08/23/12 02:17 PM



Just proved her point chaz.


Yes because objective people only see in black and white. You agree with me or you are under mind control. It says you believe this it that. What about non religious people? None of those points apply. Just because people vote doesn't mean they praise politicians. The guy is totally against any kind of law at all or any kind of government at all. I can say that without a government we wouldn't have a military. Without a military we would all be under the rule of Someone else. Japan would have taken us over during world war 2 if no one did it before then. You can't just very a governmentless society in a land so rich in resources and not be overrun. Look what happened to the native Americans.


Funny you mention the Native Americans.....who took their land? WE DID!

Also.....you are being a hypocrite, because you and your type embody the very first line you claim those speaking against you do. We can't disagree with you, without you putting us down for doing so. So yeah, may wanna look at yourself first before you start throwing stones at us.

why did you take the Indians land?? I never took anyone's land...

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Thu 08/23/12 02:18 PM


Just proved her point chaz.


Yes because objective people only see in black and white. You agree with me or you are under mind control. It says you believe this it that. What about non religious people? None of those points apply. Just because people vote doesn't mean they praise politicians. The guy is totally against any kind of law at all or any kind of government at all. I can say that without a government we wouldn't have a military. Without a military we would all be under the rule of Someone else. Japan would have taken us over during world war 2 if no one did it before then. You can't just very a governmentless society in a land so rich in resources and not be overrun. Look what happened to the native Americans.


"Law" used to describe a crime. A crime is an act that has a victim.

What you think is "law" in this society is not really Law, it is only aUCC rule. UCC rules are corporation rules. They don't require a victim.

Driving without a license is not a crime. It is breaking a rule against the corporate STATE.

Driving without a seat belt is not a crime. It is breaking a UCC rule against the STATE.

THE STATE purports to tell us how to live more and more each day.






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Thu 08/23/12 02:21 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/23/12 02:23 PM

guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal

taxes arent 'stolen' money

guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation

politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen

cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs

people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim

most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,)


hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,???

,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want?

,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,,


,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,,

,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more

I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,,






Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws."


The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right.

Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live.

An indoctrinated person is one who might say:

"THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..."




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Thu 08/23/12 02:23 PM
some 'laws' are there to protect the community or other individuals

we could avoid the 'law' about drinking and driving, because it only has a 'victim' when there is an accident

yet, I think there is no reason for people to be so intoxicated in the first place, nothing they are losing by being expected to show restraint, and alot more lives are saved by such a 'preventive' measure, than by only making it illegal to hurt someone while driving drunk

many people drive without insurance because they are so sure they will never be in an accident,,,,how many would continue driving drunk because they felt just as sure they wouldnt cause any 'victims'?



Chazster's photo
Thu 08/23/12 02:30 PM



Just proved her point chaz.


Yes because objective people only see in black and white. You agree with me or you are under mind control. It says you believe this it that. What about non religious people? None of those points apply. Just because people vote doesn't mean they praise politicians. The guy is totally against any kind of law at all or any kind of government at all. I can say that without a government we wouldn't have a military. Without a military we would all be under the rule of Someone else. Japan would have taken us over during world war 2 if no one did it before then. You can't just very a governmentless society in a land so rich in resources and not be overrun. Look what happened to the native Americans.


Funny you mention the Native Americans.....who took their land? WE DID!

Also.....you are being a hypocrite, because you and your type embody the very first line you claim those speaking against you do. We can't disagree with you, without you putting us down for doing so. So yeah, may wanna look at yourself first before you start throwing stones at us.


Please explain how I am being a hypocrite. I believe in grey area. I am not calling people cattle for not believing what I do. Also what is this we business for taking Indian land. Much ancestry is Cajun. We were forced here much after the Indians were gone.

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Thu 08/23/12 02:30 PM

some 'laws' are there to protect the community or other individuals

we could avoid the 'law' about drinking and driving, because it only has a 'victim' when there is an accident

yet, I think there is no reason for people to be so intoxicated in the first place, nothing they are losing by being expected to show restraint, and alot more lives are saved by such a 'preventive' measure, than by only making it illegal to hurt someone while driving drunk

many people drive without insurance because they are so sure they will never be in an accident,,,,how many would continue driving drunk because they felt just as sure they wouldnt cause any 'victims'?







I don't think you watched the whole video. It was once illegal to help a runaway slave. It was once illegal for a woman to vote. It was once illegal to use a white mans drinking fountain. But we where indoctrinated to believe that was ok. This is how life should be. Well it took some brave people who broke the law to know what is fair.

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Thu 08/23/12 02:31 PM


guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal

taxes arent 'stolen' money

guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation

politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen

cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs

people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim

most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,)


hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,???

,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want?

,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,,


,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,,

,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more

I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,,






Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws."


The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right.

Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live.

An indoctrinated person is one who might say:

"THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..."






if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes

the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron

if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,,

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Thu 08/23/12 02:32 PM
The claim that laws are there to "protect" the community is overused.
Most are abused.

I was stopped by a policeman one day who was on a campaign to generate money for the state by catching people driving without a seat belt.

The officer's excuse for stopping me was a crack in my window. What was uncalled for was his repeated questioning of me. He kept interrogating me about where I was going. (none of his business.)

He kept asking me where I was going. He did it to intimidate me with authority. He demanded to know. again, NONE OF HIS BUSINESS.

I did not commit any crime. I got a ticket for no seat belt. That is not a real crime. It is a rule. All they want is to collect money for the corporation. They don't give a rats butt about "protecting" anyone.



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Thu 08/23/12 02:34 PM
You can't believe wats on TV cuz it is a Cunspiracy by da Gubbermint!

frustrated

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Thu 08/23/12 02:34 PM


if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes

the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron

if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,,


REALLY??? laugh laugh laugh

No consequences? Are you kidding?

THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYTHING YOU CHOSE TO DO OR NOT DO.

It is a law of God. The law of Karma, anything you want to call it. The law of attraction, vibration.

There are consequences for everything. It is the law of cause and effect.



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Thu 08/23/12 02:34 PM


some 'laws' are there to protect the community or other individuals

we could avoid the 'law' about drinking and driving, because it only has a 'victim' when there is an accident

yet, I think there is no reason for people to be so intoxicated in the first place, nothing they are losing by being expected to show restraint, and alot more lives are saved by such a 'preventive' measure, than by only making it illegal to hurt someone while driving drunk

many people drive without insurance because they are so sure they will never be in an accident,,,,how many would continue driving drunk because they felt just as sure they wouldnt cause any 'victims'?







I don't think you watched the whole video. It was once illegal to help a runaway slave. It was once illegal for a woman to vote. It was once illegal to use a white mans drinking fountain. But we where indoctrinated to believe that was ok. This is how life should be. Well it took some brave people who broke the law to know what is fair.




I understand some laws can be just, and some can be unjust. I dont need a video to tell me that. To compare laws that that enslaved people based upon race, and treated them like only PROPERTY because of nothing other than the race they are born into,, is a far cry from griping over laws concerning selling drugs (something that IS actually a choice)



when I hear a law mentioned that I Dont think is fair, because it oppresses a certain 'group' of people based upon a characteristic they have nothing to do with (race, gender, etc,,,)

I will concede that it needs to be revisited,, but I wont use the exceptions to gripe about the existence of laws or voting,,

mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/23/12 02:35 PM


guy who sells drugs = desperate ,criminal

taxes arent 'stolen' money

guy who avoids being 'robbed' by the government = freeloader, wanting the privileges of citizenship without being required to invest anything into its preservation

politicians = no more (or less) 'virtuous' than any other citizen

cops who drag someone over marijuana infraction= legal thugs

people defending themself from such treatment, when not provoking the treatment themself = victim

most drug dealers more virtuous than social workers ? impossible to prove or disprove (HUGE ASSumption,,)


hippy lets others be free and voters dont,,,???

,,,,,so the country would be better off if we all were just 'free' hippies doing what we want?

,,,not a logical aim,,,,as what people 'want' to do or have varies so much and impacts upon their families, environments, and communities,,,,


,,,,comparing voters to nazis? interesting,, most americans dont really have good 'table' manners, but would also not kill people for the aim of a more 'pure race',,,,

,,,anyway,, dont have the patience for much more

I hope that guys life gets better, I will pray for him,,,






Msharmony, beggin your parden, but you are endoctrinated. You do not understand the financial system or the UCC rules that they purport to be "laws."


The point is that people don't want to take the responsibility for themselves or for doing what is right.

Instead they expect the government to tell them how to live.

An indoctrinated person is one who might say:

"THEY OUGHT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW..."





who votes the people in office that makes these laws? YOU DO.. MSharmony is correct, you seem to think anarchy is the answer...

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Thu 08/23/12 02:37 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 08/23/12 02:38 PM



if by indoctrinated you mean I can use common sense, than yes

the assessment that people want laws so they wont have to be responsible for themself is an oxymoron

if they didnt want to have self responsibility, the best thing would be no LAWS because there would be no consequence to whatver they chose to do or not do,,,


REALLY??? laugh laugh laugh

No consequences? Are you kidding?

THERE ARE ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYTHING YOU CHOSE TO DO OR NOT DO.

It is a law of God. The law of Karma, anything you want to call it. The law of attraction, vibration.

There are consequences for everything. It is the law of cause and effect.






so what was the karma that befell the slaveowners, whose descendants are now benefitting?

what was the karma that befalls the rapist who is never caught?

what is the karma that befalls a serial killer who is never caught?

why do we raise children or teach them anything if 'karma' can do it for us...?

,, Im sorry, that karmic consequence sure doesnt seem to do much to deter people,,,,



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