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Topic: Why?
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Mon 08/13/07 10:48 AM
I believe because God made himself real to me in many ways. Many events happened in my life that proved he was real. When others let me down, betrayed me and essentially tore my heart into God showed me love and understanding. Because of my belief in him, I've found peace and comforting. No body made me believe it was a choice i made on my own. God uses other followers to give insight, preach the gospel and help those that need him. Seek and you shall find.

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Mon 08/13/07 06:13 PM
'zd84'

You ask:
"... Why are you spiritual? Why do you believe in the god that you do?"
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The two questions are very distinct. In the form that we refer to 'God' in the pubic space, this specific kind of 'God', 'God' and 'Spirit' refer to very different dimensions of human beings.

The reality of any human being IMO and belief is,
... a distinct part physical and material (body and occuring physical world) and...
... another distinct part spiritual and immaterial (nothing/everything all at once, without any human meaning: just pure spirit, pure mystery).

The trouble starts IMO when we insist on 'carrying' the immaterial 'spirit', which is whole in itself, to the material dimension of our framanted and separate physical being.

Our physical and material dimension invented 'religion' to structure and organize in a material and understandable manner, that which does not belong to understanding, and that which is immaterial. Unecessary, futile, senseless, but we insist on forcing the form nonetheless.

Being at peace with the mystery of 'spirit', of which we are wholy part, eliminates all felt need for a specific 'god', and even more so a religion.

If you wish to substitute 'god' and 'spirit' as an unexplainable mystery we are prt of, I have no problem with 'god' as a substitute.

But if 'god has to become this distinct form, attached to a loaded and complicaqted 'dogma', serving to force a reassuring understanding or physical presence, I have no interest in that kind of human fabrication.
That sort of 'God' makes me lose all touch or sense with the freeing (it seems) nothingness of spirit.

A specific God, attached to its inescapable religious and dogmatic material beliefs, simply distance people from 'intuiting' and connecting to the eternal presence of spirit.



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Mon 08/13/07 10:52 PM
I am also a non believer...I personally believe that we are hybrids from aliens...but unfortunately i get criticized for thinking that way...I want to know why believing in alien hybrids is more far fetched than believing in a man or being that no one has seen before.

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Tue 08/14/07 12:03 AM
"...I want to know why believing in alien hybrids is more far fetched than believing in a man or being that no one has seen before."

It's not.

However, beliving that you are a hybrid from aliens doesn't address the question of the true nature of your essence. If you are decendents from aliens then you should still be curious about the fundamental nature of thier essence which would ulimately be your essence too.

In other words, saying that you're the offspring of aliens doesn't address the issue of the question of your fundamental nature. That merely explains how you ended up being on Earth.

For example, even if it was proven that we are the decendents of aliens my pantheist view of nature as a whole could still hold true. That evidence of our ancestry wouldn't cause the slightest problem within my fundamental philosophy.

However, just for the record, I'm convinced by the overwhelming observational evidence that we did indeed evolve on planet Earth from the raw material of star stuff.

In your hypothesis you'd still need to explain how the original aliens arose. So you've just side-stepped the real question without offering any explanation of the fundamental essence of your being.

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Tue 08/14/07 05:30 AM
I believe also,he's walked with me through all the good and bad..

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Tue 08/14/07 12:02 PM
>> I want to know why believing in alien hybrids is more far fetched than believing in a man

I consider this to be a far less far-fetched idea than many other explanations I've heard.

Do you mean that you believe aliens mated with terrestrial species?

Or that aliens did genetic manipulation of terrestrial species in (the alien version of) a laboratory?

Or something else?


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Tue 08/14/07 12:22 PM
Because i do not think something as Complicated as the Human Body Brain and Reproductive System is a Product of Random Evolution the World is to Perfect for it to be anything other than a Devine Plan

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Tue 08/21/07 02:07 AM
God may be real but he if he is he is sick and twisted and enjoys seeing those who chose not to be his slaves and those incapable of bind faith, burning in hell for all eternity.

However i do believe that some biological pieces were designed by being of high intelligence, 'god' if you want to call him that. I have not seen any evidence however that this 'god' is still interested in his earth experiment, or even that he is still alive.

as a former Christian my thought use to be, every one has the capacity for blind faith, and god must be real. now i've realized that just because god may be real doesn't mean that the rest of any religion is correct, nor that he sends people without blind faith to hell.

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