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Thu 02/21/13 09:32 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 02/21/13 09:34 PM
Banker-bashing Iran style: four fraudsters sentenced to death

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IRAN has sentenced four people to death by hanging for their part in the country's biggest ever bank fraud, prompting comparisons with the lenient treatment of disgraced bankers in the West.

Thirty-five other Iranian defendants have been sentenced to life imprisonment or terms of up to 25 years - and some face additional punishments such as flogging and fines.



Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/middle-east/48250/banker-bashing-iran-style-four-fraudsters-sentenced-death#ixzz2LbStKLwO


http://www.theweek.co.uk/middle-east/48250/banker-bashing-iran-style-four-fraudsters-sentenced-death

Realist News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6raGTFUrPTc

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Fri 02/22/13 12:09 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Fri 02/22/13 12:10 AM
Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:

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Fri 02/22/13 06:52 AM
Yup.
We be in an upside-down world.
Here, barry bails 'em out, gives 'em big bonuses then takes a vacation.

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Fri 02/22/13 07:04 AM
it would be nice if the gov't in the US would require the auto and banking industries to repay the bailouts and make the requirement a PRE condition of any future industry bailouts. The interset on those loans could balnce the budget...prolly in less than a month

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Fri 02/22/13 07:05 AM

it would be nice if the gov't in the US would require the auto and banking industries to repay the bailouts and make the requirement a PRE condition of any future industry bailouts. The interset on those loans could balnce the budget...prolly in less than a month

A little off-topic but, GM is moving a whole plant to Mexico.

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Fri 02/22/13 07:55 AM

Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...

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Fri 02/22/13 08:33 AM


Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.

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Fri 02/22/13 08:40 AM



Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...

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Fri 02/22/13 09:26 AM




Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...


We have shown Iran many times that we do not live up to our treaty obligations (the NPT for example), so why should they trust us when we are already committing acts of war (trade embargoes, STUXNET, assassination, sabotage, etc.) against them? IMO, they are being far more patient than I'd ever be...In their shoes, I would have gone to war ages ago rather than knuckle under to the banking empire.

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Fri 02/22/13 09:34 AM





Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...


We have shown Iran many times that we do not live up to our treaty obligations (the NPT for example), so why should they trust us when we are already committing acts of war (trade embargoes, STUXNET, assassination, sabotage, etc.) against them? IMO, they are being far more patient than I'd ever be...In their shoes, I would have gone to war ages ago rather than knuckle under to the banking empire.


trust isn't the issue... the embargoes you mention are because of non compliance. they want they embargoes lifted, then play along with the rest of the world... not very hard

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Fri 02/22/13 10:06 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Fri 02/22/13 10:07 AM






Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...


We have shown Iran many times that we do not live up to our treaty obligations (the NPT for example), so why should they trust us when we are already committing acts of war (trade embargoes, STUXNET, assassination, sabotage, etc.) against them? IMO, they are being far more patient than I'd ever be...In their shoes, I would have gone to war ages ago rather than knuckle under to the banking empire.


trust isn't the issue... the embargoes you mention are because of non compliance. they want they embargoes lifted, then play along with the rest of the world... not very hard


The non-compliance is non-compliance with the banking empire called "the West"...I wouldn't comply either. In point of fact, "the west" is the outfit not complying with its own obligations under the NPT which Iran signed. It is the obligation of the nuclear powered signatories to it to provide aid and assistance regarding nuclear power to another signatory trying to develop it. This has not been done with respect to Iran; in fact quite the opposite is true, so countries like the US stand in breach of the agreement, not Iran.

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Fri 02/22/13 10:13 AM







Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...


We have shown Iran many times that we do not live up to our treaty obligations (the NPT for example), so why should they trust us when we are already committing acts of war (trade embargoes, STUXNET, assassination, sabotage, etc.) against them? IMO, they are being far more patient than I'd ever be...In their shoes, I would have gone to war ages ago rather than knuckle under to the banking empire.


trust isn't the issue... the embargoes you mention are because of non compliance. they want they embargoes lifted, then play along with the rest of the world... not very hard


The non-compliance is non-compliance with the banking empire called "the West"...I wouldn't comply either. In point of fact, "the west" is the outfit not complying with its own obligations under the NPT which Iran signed. It is the obligation of the nuclear powered signatories to it to provide aid and assistance regarding nuclear power to another signatory trying to develop it. This has not been done with respect to Iran; in fact quite the opposite is true, so countries like the US stand in breach of the agreement, not Iran.


do you have a link to show this?

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Fri 02/22/13 01:35 PM








Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...


We have shown Iran many times that we do not live up to our treaty obligations (the NPT for example), so why should they trust us when we are already committing acts of war (trade embargoes, STUXNET, assassination, sabotage, etc.) against them? IMO, they are being far more patient than I'd ever be...In their shoes, I would have gone to war ages ago rather than knuckle under to the banking empire.


trust isn't the issue... the embargoes you mention are because of non compliance. they want they embargoes lifted, then play along with the rest of the world... not very hard


The non-compliance is non-compliance with the banking empire called "the West"...I wouldn't comply either. In point of fact, "the west" is the outfit not complying with its own obligations under the NPT which Iran signed. It is the obligation of the nuclear powered signatories to it to provide aid and assistance regarding nuclear power to another signatory trying to develop it. This has not been done with respect to Iran; in fact quite the opposite is true, so countries like the US stand in breach of the agreement, not Iran.


do you have a link to show this?


I'm guessing you want to see the nuclear weapon states' treaty obligations, in which case the following link might prove informative:

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2005/gadis3301.doc.htm

The Wikipedia appears to have an accurate article on the NPT that might be useful...In particular, look at "Third pillar: peaceful use of nuclear energy":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons#Third_pillar:_peaceful_use_of_nuclear_energy

Here's an article that asks if Iran is violating the NPT:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0504/NPT-101-Is-Iran-violating-the-nuclear-treaty/(page)/2

Please note the bias in the article and the fact that "the west" is demanding that Iran prove a negative, which as we all know is damn near impossible. Fortunately for the banking empire, most people don't know that and easily fall for the scandalous accusations made against Iran by a bank owned & controlled media, which is generally the only media we have access to.

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Sat 02/23/13 10:12 AM
Edited by Traumer on Sat 02/23/13 10:13 AM

Banker-bashing Iran style: four fraudsters sentenced to death

Read more:

IRAN has sentenced four people to death by hanging for their part in the country's biggest ever bank fraud, prompting comparisons with the lenient treatment of disgraced bankers in the West.

Thirty-five other Iranian defendants have been sentenced to life imprisonment or terms of up to 25 years - and some face additional punishments such as flogging and fines.



Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/middle-east/48250/banker-bashing-iran-style-four-fraudsters-sentenced-death#ixzz2LbStKLwO


http://www.theweek.co.uk/middle-east/48250/banker-bashing-iran-style-four-fraudsters-sentenced-death



All the more reasons that the international banking cartels would urge the US and Israel to destroy Iran before they actually have any nukes which could possibly be aimed at Wall Street...only crazed criminal anti Zionist psychos would even think of destroying Wall street, right...(?)
:laughing:
(Viva Iran!)

Realist News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6raGTFUrPTc

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/23/13 10:52 AM









Whatever else we might say about Iran, at least they are hanging the banksters instead of just talking about it while handing over their hard-earned money.

No wonder the "West" hates Iran; "the West" is just a euphemism for the western banking empire...Here's to hoping that Islam wins the "clash of civilizations"...I have the feeling that after putting up with the banks, an Islamic tyranny would be a breath of fresh air.
:laughing:


i don't hate Iran, I kind of admire their fortitude in these matters... but this just shows another reason for them to not have nukes...


Meh...Are we their mommy to tell them what they can or can't have? They are a sovereign nation and ought to be as free as anyone else to do as they please. They're pretty peaceful (They haven't started a war in 200 years.) and don't appear in the least interested in having nuclear weapons. From what I understand, they want to produce their own nuclear power & medical isotopes (which steps on some very powerful power interests).

IMO, NOBODY should have nukes...especially "the West"...We've used them already and threaten to use them again every time some other country has something we want & won't give it to us. IMO, we are just the international schoolyard bully, extorting lunch money out of smaller nations.

Since none of the western countries seems to have the balls to nuke the banks, it would be kinda nice if Iran DID have nuclear weapons and the anti-islamic will to use them. I suspect that if it targeted a few central banks the whole world would give them a standing ovation.


maybe we shouldn't have nukes, but they are here, and thats that... since they are here, they have to be monitored and controlled, for the sake of the world, not just one nation. what if hitler had nukes? crazy people/nations/fanatics should not have nukes. Iran has shown to many times why they shouldn't have nukes, and why we should do everything in our power to keep nukes out of their hands...


We have shown Iran many times that we do not live up to our treaty obligations (the NPT for example), so why should they trust us when we are already committing acts of war (trade embargoes, STUXNET, assassination, sabotage, etc.) against them? IMO, they are being far more patient than I'd ever be...In their shoes, I would have gone to war ages ago rather than knuckle under to the banking empire.


trust isn't the issue... the embargoes you mention are because of non compliance. they want they embargoes lifted, then play along with the rest of the world... not very hard


The non-compliance is non-compliance with the banking empire called "the West"...I wouldn't comply either. In point of fact, "the west" is the outfit not complying with its own obligations under the NPT which Iran signed. It is the obligation of the nuclear powered signatories to it to provide aid and assistance regarding nuclear power to another signatory trying to develop it. This has not been done with respect to Iran; in fact quite the opposite is true, so countries like the US stand in breach of the agreement, not Iran.


do you have a link to show this?


I'm guessing you want to see the nuclear weapon states' treaty obligations, in which case the following link might prove informative:

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2005/gadis3301.doc.htm

The Wikipedia appears to have an accurate article on the NPT that might be useful...In particular, look at "Third pillar: peaceful use of nuclear energy":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons#Third_pillar:_peaceful_use_of_nuclear_energy

Here's an article that asks if Iran is violating the NPT:

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2010/0504/NPT-101-Is-Iran-violating-the-nuclear-treaty/(page)/2

Please note the bias in the article and the fact that "the west" is demanding that Iran prove a negative, which as we all know is damn near impossible. Fortunately for the banking empire, most people don't know that and easily fall for the scandalous accusations made against Iran by a bank owned & controlled media, which is generally the only media we have access to.



i think what you posted is a little biased... they are not asking to prove a negative, they want uncontrolled access to there facilities, and iran has not complied even a little... Iran is a sovereign nation, but they still have to get along with the majority of the world, and quit saying they will wipe Israel of the map...

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Sat 02/23/13 11:35 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 02/23/13 11:37 AM
Okay are 'they' willing to give Iran uncontrolled access to Israel or America's ??

you said:
"Iran is a sovereign nation, but they still have to get along with the majority of the world, and quit saying they will wipe Israel of the map..."


Number one, I don't see Iran "not getting along." Who have they invaded? Number two.... you said it: Iran is a sovereign nation. Why should they let some potential enemy have uncontrolled access to anything, especially after some of their top scientists have been murdered, and their facilities infected with computer viruses.???

Why on earth should Iran trust the west who want to install central banking and fractional reserve lending in every country on earth???

Why should they 'comply' with anyone? Does Israel comply? Does Israel give inspectors uncontrolled access to them? Does America give uncontrolled access to their WMD facility?

Get real. You are not even being reasonable.

Also, nobody can control what comes out of people's mouths. You want them to quit voicing their objection to Israel? You want you silence them? That's what terrorists like to do.





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Sun 02/24/13 05:04 AM

they are not asking to prove a negative, they want uncontrolled access to there facilities, and iran has not complied even a little


Iran has bent over backwards to meet its NPT obligations, and it has met them. This can't be said of the nuclear weapon states pressuring it; they are not helping Iran one bit with its nuclear development program (which they are required to do under the NPT).

Giving hostile countries uncontrolled access to their entire country and its facilities would be utterly ridiculous and WOULD entail proving a negative. Imagine the neighbourhood didn't like you and accused you of being a drug dealer, telling you that the only thing that would allay their suspicions was to give them free access to your house to inspect every corner of it. It wouldn't be proof to simply walk around in it for a quick gander; they might miss something. They would literally have to tear out your walls & plumbing, jackhammer your basement & dig up your yard to be absolutely sure. Would you stand for that?...You'd have to if you wanted to prove to them there were no drugs at your place.

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Sun 02/24/13 11:26 AM


they are not asking to prove a negative, they want uncontrolled access to there facilities, and iran has not complied even a little


Iran has bent over backwards to meet its NPT obligations, and it has met them. This can't be said of the nuclear weapon states pressuring it; they are not helping Iran one bit with its nuclear development program (which they are required to do under the NPT).

Giving hostile countries uncontrolled access to their entire country and its facilities would be utterly ridiculous and WOULD entail proving a negative. Imagine the neighbourhood didn't like you and accused you of being a drug dealer, telling you that the only thing that would allay their suspicions was to give them free access to your house to inspect every corner of it. It wouldn't be proof to simply walk around in it for a quick gander; they might miss something. They would literally have to tear out your walls & plumbing, jackhammer your basement & dig up your yard to be absolutely sure. Would you stand for that?...You'd have to if you wanted to prove to them there were no drugs at your place.


Not many people know this but a CIA informant involving Iraq claimed that Saddam was 100% compliant with everything the United States wanted to do, but the United States did not want that. All they wanted was a reason to invade, so they spread the LIE that Saddam was not compliant.

This appears to be a common M.O. that seems to work with the dumbed down public.

We don't want another war. When will the idiot public stop believing the bull chit they are being fed?

We don't want gun legislation. When will the deaf politicians speak for the people?




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Sun 02/24/13 12:23 PM


they are not asking to prove a negative, they want uncontrolled access to there facilities, and iran has not complied even a little


Iran has bent over backwards to meet its NPT obligations, and it has met them. This can't be said of the nuclear weapon states pressuring it; they are not helping Iran one bit with its nuclear development program (which they are required to do under the NPT).

Giving hostile countries uncontrolled access to their entire country and its facilities would be utterly ridiculous and WOULD entail proving a negative. Imagine the neighbourhood didn't like you and accused you of being a drug dealer, telling you that the only thing that would allay their suspicions was to give them free access to your house to inspect every corner of it. It wouldn't be proof to simply walk around in it for a quick gander; they might miss something. They would literally have to tear out your walls & plumbing, jackhammer your basement & dig up your yard to be absolutely sure. Would you stand for that?...You'd have to if you wanted to prove to them there were no drugs at your place.


if you really believe iran has "bent over backwards" trying to appease the NPT inspectors, then there is no point in continuing here... all you have to do is look it up, and you will see...

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Sun 02/24/13 12:34 PM

Okay are 'they' willing to give Iran uncontrolled access to Israel or America's ??

you said:
"Iran is a sovereign nation, but they still have to get along with the majority of the world, and quit saying they will wipe Israel of the map..."


Number one, I don't see Iran "not getting along." Who have they invaded? Number two.... you said it: Iran is a sovereign nation. Why should they let some potential enemy have uncontrolled access to anything, especially after some of their top scientists have been murdered, and their facilities infected with computer viruses.???

Why on earth should Iran trust the west who want to install central banking and fractional reserve lending in every country on earth???

Why should they 'comply' with anyone? Does Israel comply? Does Israel give inspectors uncontrolled access to them? Does America give uncontrolled access to their WMD facility?

Get real. You are not even being reasonable.

Also, nobody can control what comes out of people's mouths. You want them to quit voicing their objection to Israel? You want you silence them? That's what terrorists like to do.





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do you even think before you type? just more of your mindless dribble.... and to be honest with you, nobody cares what you think of Israel, nobody really cares what you think of anything.

1. you don't see.... your first 3 words summed up everything you think, because you don't see... i guess you forgot about every neighboring country surrounding iran, iran has been at war with in the last 50 years... murdered? i heard a car accident, but i guess it's murder with the CT'ers tiny minds and limited critical thinking


ANd who cares who or what they trust? they need to trust the fact that they will not have nukes...why should they inspect America's nukes? are you insane? you keep making this about America, when in fact it's about a whole host of countries, each country nukes have been inspected and passed by the NPT... when your done hating America and Israel, get back to me, because i've had about enough of your hatred...

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