The Secret Service at Booker Elementary: The Dog That Did Not Bark

The Sarasota Herald Tribune announced Bush's visit to Booker Elementary on September 8th, giving the 9-11 planners three days to include Bush as a target for a diving jetliner. Nobody could have safely assumed he was not a target. The Booker Elementary video shows the Secret Service did not rush in to remove the President to a secure location, or at least to the safety of the armored Presidential Limousine. That's their job. That's what they do in the case of a real surprise attack with many unknowns. They don't do anything else.

But the Secret Service did nothing.

If the events of 9-11 were truly a surprise to the United States Government then there is no way the Secret Service could have known there wasn't a hijacked or stolen plane heading towards Booker Elementary School that very second.

Radio Transmissions of WTC 2 Firefighters

Firefighters reported only isolated pockets of fire on the 77th floor immediately before the collapse, so where was the all-consuming inferno?

New York's Office of Emergency Management Issued a WTC Collapse Warning

How did the OEM know something that firefighters in WTC 2's impact area didn't?

World Trade Center 2: There Was No Inferno

Stanley Praimnath's office on the 81st floor of WTC 2 was a bullseye hit for Flight 175. Mr Praimnath survived and was rescued by Brian Clark who came down from the 84th floor. Their survival proves there was no inferno in WTC 2. Both have given interviews to the BBC, e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14766882. None of their interviews mention a raging inferno.

World Trade Center 1: There Was No Inferno

At 9:05 am Patricia Alonso was on the 95th floor of WTC 1 speaking to her husband on a mobile phone. If fires brought down WTC 1 then this area of the building should have been an unsurvivable fiery hell - the core of the building would have required a phenomenal amount of heat to fail as it did.

Woman Waving From WTC 1 Impact Area

More evidence there was no inferno at the core of WTC 1.

The "Truss Theory": A Fantasy Concocted to Conceal a Demolition

NIST has had two attempts at explaining the the WTC collapses with a "truss theory". Both explanations are fatally flawed because they say the twin towers were held together with little more than 5/8" bolts.

WTC 2: Cutter Charges and Cover-Up

Many firefighters' oral histories describe the sound of cutter charges detonating as WTC 2 collapsed. This is verified by a video. The original video soundtrack has been changed to eliminate these sounds.

Shaped Charges and the World Trade Center Collapses

Why were high velocity explosives detonating in the vicinity of the World Trade Center?

Larry Silverstein, WTC 7, and the 9/11 Demolition

Fox News: "Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall."

9/11/2001 radio broadcast: "...I was just standing there, ya know... we were watching the building [WTC 7] actually 'cuz it was on fire... the bottom floors of the building were on fire and... we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder... turned around - we were shocked to see that the building was... well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out... it was horrifying... about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that."

Video Evidence of an Explosion at the Base of WTC 1

A video shows two perspectives of WTC 1's collapse. The inset video shows the camera shake at roughly six seconds. Five seconds later the main video shows dense white smoke appearing at the building's base. Seconds later the building collapses.

The Ground Zero Fires Were Not Conventional Fires

The smoke rising from the wreckage of the WTC for months after the collapses contained no soot, it was a dense white. All videos of the WTC wreckage show this white smoke. This points to the fires being caused by a chemical reaction, that reaction being thermite.

How Did the WTC Fires Burn for Months?

It took millions of gallons of water over a period of five months to extinguish the fires in the WTC wreckage. Neither jet fuel nor burning office equipment can account for this. Thermite can.

Thermite and the WTC Collapses

A thermite reaction generates large amounts of ultraviolet radiation.

On 27 September, the officials ordered 2000 gallons of [Pyrocool FEF], which when added to water produces a slippery, low-viscosity foam. ... Berger adds that "Pyrocool also contains two powerful ultra-violet absorbers."

9/11 WTC Explosions: The Official Collapse Theory Implodes

Numerous videos documenting events as they happened at the WTC on 9/11. Many reports of bombs and explosions.

"...there are all kinds of reasons we thought [the 9/11 Commission was] set up to fail. We got started late. We had a very short time frame, indeed we had to get it extended. We did not have enough money. They were afraid we were gonna hang somebody, that we would point the finger."

War Games: The Key to a 9/11 USAF Stand Down

9/11 Commission Testimony: There was a young man who came in and said to the vice president "The plane [Flight 77] is 50 miles out" [from Washington], "The plane is 30 miles out", and when it got down to "The plane is 10 miles out" the young man also said to the vice president "Do the orders still stand?", and the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?"

9/11 Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts

The suggestion a missile hit the Pentagon is nothing more than a straw man to discredit the 9/11 truth movement.

The 9/11 Anthrax Frame-Up

In October [2001], press reports revealed that White House staff had been on a regimen of the powerful antibiotic Cipro since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Judicial Watch wants to know why White House workers, including President Bush, began taking the drug nearly a month before anthrax was detected on Capitol Hill.

The Afghanistan War was Planned Months Before the 9/11 Attacks

"To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11." - Tony Blair. July 17, 2002
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_facts.html

Looks like none of the usual suspects wants to address the facts you presented. If you wanted a more active thread, you should have presented them along with a conspiracy theory; then we could have loaded it up with debunking posts demanding proof. As it is, it's pretty hard to debunk simple facts & questions, and the ones you've presented would appear to blow some major holes in the most laughable conspiracy theory of all...the official one.

NIce going!

BIS, how old is this long debunked nonsense you keep dragging up?

@JustDukky.

There is no point debunking these stupid theories because the CTer's won't alter their belief system. They don't even read or open anything presented so it's clearly a waste of time. I've presented ample evidence exposing the lies behind the twoofer movement continuously, yet no-one evens looks at it. A series of videos produced by JREF deals with most of the above, but if I posted them, would you even bother watching them? Would anyone even bother addressing the content without raving about Jews, Bankers or other irrelevant BS?

I doubt it.

Experience has shown me that it is impossible to debate this subject with any degree of accuracy, because most are unable to assess the evidence with any degree of competence, or impartiality.

This about sums up every 9/11 thread on any forum.

Ain't it the truth! It's been 12 years since 9/11 and it looks like most people still believe the fanciful tale spun by the liars in Washington.

I wouldn't say 'most people', because in my experience it's not the case, but many do adhere to these flights of fancy without a shred of evidence or reason. It's remarkable what irrational belief systems take hold in some individuals, but then, where would religion be without that human failing?

Ah, well, that's Mingle for you.

i always liked the logic of "there's no way they could have flown those planes"... i'm guessing they never played with any flight simulator...

Or 'how could they have flown those planes into buildings?'

They didn't, they crashed them.

'How could a 757/767 withstand the stresses at those speeds at that altitude?'

They didn't, they crashed.

the fires.. the fires

If it wasn't that hot in the impact zone why were people jumping to their deaths?

You would think they would have sat around in their offices waiting for rescue if the fires weren't an issue..




There is no fire as this pic clearly shows..

it was set up the goverment said to the owner of the towers and said wel give you 2-3 billion im not 100% how much yeh anyway and coz the two went down the guy tried to get more money and they ended up giving him less than what they originaly said


watch this its on for quite a while but it explains so much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ

Uh huh. The sad fact is that they really did miss it completely. 'they" were too busy looking at (and infiltrating and spreading hate, racisism, and disinformation) to local militias and such. You can take that one to the bank.

Clearly. And as there was no fire, the trusses couldn't have sagged causing the buckling evinced prior to the collapse.

It's obvious.

In order to understand the improbability of the government’s explanation of 9/11, it is not necessary to know anything about what force or forces brought down the three World Trade Center buildings, what hit the Pentagon or caused the explosion, the flying skills or lack thereof of the alleged hijackers, whether the airliner crashed in Pennsylvania or was shot down, whether cell phone calls made at the altitudes could be received, or any other debated aspect of the controversy.

You only have to know two things.

One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.

It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/09/11/the-11th-anniversary-911-paul-craig-roberts/

The same old nonsense, eh BIS?

Are you going to drag out Farmer's misrepresented quote, or Mineta's distorted evidence next?

You don't seem to have much of a repertoire.


I know! It might be the old dancing Jews and Mossad story. That always gets the punters in!

What part of logic is hard for you to understand?

None, actually. When are you going to show me some?

I can show it to you but cant make you read it or understand it.

In order to understand the improbability of the government’s explanation of 9/11, it is not necessary to know anything about what force or forces brought down the three World Trade Center buildings, what hit the Pentagon or caused the explosion, the flying skills or lack thereof of the alleged hijackers, whether the airliner crashed in Pennsylvania or was shot down, whether cell phone calls made at the altitudes could be received, or any other debated aspect of the controversy.

You only have to know two things.

One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs, mainly Saudi Arabians, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service, men without James Bond and V for Vendetta capabilities, outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs.

It is hard to image a more far-fetched story–except for the second thing you need to know: The humiliating failure of US National Security did not result in immediate demands from the President of the United States, from Congress, from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and from the media for an investigation of how such improbable total failure could have occurred. No one was held accountable for the greatest failure of national security in world history. Instead, the White House dragged its feet for a year resisting any investigation until the persistent demands from 9/11 families for accountability forced President George W. Bush to appoint a political commission, devoid of any experts, to hold a pretend investigation.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/09/11/the-11th-anniversary-911-paul-craig-roberts/

My comprehension skills are excellent. Now, if you read Farmer's book, you'd know that Roberts' opinion is incorrect. Farmer's book actually demonstrates that everything Roberts finds incredulous, actually happened.

Amazing huh?

there are only 2 things we need to know....