I had just placed an Order for a FN PS90, the Very Same Gun (Civilian Version) as the U.S. Secret Service Protective Details have Standard Issued (I Imange the Anti-Gun Nuts are Going Crazy about Now but they are Fun, Fun, Fun to Shoot) and Fires a 5.7 Round that can go through Body Armor but not Drywall.

It looks like a gun out of Star Wars or Star Trek, Maybe Babalon 5; so I would like some ideas on what to Shoot once I get it.

duck

no I mean I'm ducking

Why?
I'm always safe with a Gun; I've taken NRA Safety Training & Tactical Training from a Few Different Schools and Local Law Enforcement Loves me (in a Platanic Manner of course) and I even have all the Permits needed (as Protest for the Current Anti-Gun Leglislation going on) to own Fully Automatic Weapons.

To Date, the Only Victims of my Guns are made of Paper, Wood, Soda Bottles, a few Cender Blocks and some Drywall as part of a Demo; Plus a few Unwanted Critters that had wondered onto my Property as I have a Small Horse Ranch/Farm, and some Deer when in Season.

I'm the Person you want in the Mall Nearby while you're shopping (or some other "Gun Free Zone") if a Madman with a Gun is Looking for a Body Count.

hehehe
...Just don't shoot your eye out !



{Or was that POKE your eye out ?}

woe to the Fellow trying to get in your House!

Why?
I'm always safe with a Gun; I've taken NRA Safety Training & Tactical Training from a Few Different Schools and Local Law Enforcement Loves me (in a Platanic Manner of course) and I even have all the Permits needed (as Protest for the Current Anti-Gun Leglislation going on) to own Fully Automatic Weapons.

To Date, the Only Victims of my Guns are made of Paper, Wood, Soda Bottles, a few Cender Blocks and some Drywall as part of a Demo; Plus a few Unwanted Critters that had wondered onto my Property as I have a Small Horse Ranch/Farm, and some Deer when in Season.

I'm the Person you want in the Mall Nearby while you're shopping (or some other "Gun Free Zone") if a Madman with a Gun is Looking for a Body Count.




I live in the UK, where thankfully, we have very strict gunlaws. I have a friend who did once compete in pistol shooting competitions, he has since retired from the sport and sold all his pistols, but he use to them keep secuely locked in a regulation safe in his house, as required by UK law. What you say regarding walking round a shopping mall carrying your pistol I find very alarming, is this legally allowed in the USA? Is anyone allowed to carry a pistol with them in their coat pocket when they go shopping? I am not absolutely sure, but I do not believe this would be allowed in the UK even by the holder of a firearms licence.

I live in the UK, where thankfully, we have very strict gunlaws. I have a friend who did once compete in pistol shooting competitions, he has since retired from the sport and sold all his pistols, but he use to them keep secuely locked in a regulation safe in his house, as required by UK law. What you say regarding walking round a shopping mall carrying your pistol I find very alarming, is this legally allowed in the USA? Is anyone allowed to carry a pistol with them in their coat pocket when they go shopping? I am not absolutely sure, but I do not believe this would be allowed in the UK even by the holder of a firearms licence.
and miraculously all the Guncrime and serious Crime ceased in the UK!

Oh,you could do well loaning it to me.....many burglars her,handbag snatchers,commuter taxi hijackers,
and the non ending corruption and stealing of public funds by the big wigs....... Oh,i'll practice on target.

and miraculously all the Guncrime and serious Crime ceased in the UK!


Sadly not, but I do believe it is true to say that we do not have the volume of gun crime here in the UK that you have in the USA per head of population. I am sure our gun laws play no small part in our having far less gun crime.

What kind of round will go through body armor but not drywall? This is a new one for me and I thought is was pretty familiar with ammo.

If they have a Carry Permit, which requires a Background Check, Finger Printing and all; which my PS90 also Requires Permits for as it's Full Auto.

A PS90 isn't a Good First Gun, start off with a Revolver and get a Carry Permit; then Train with it, have someone you trust Train you in Weapon Retention with a Mock Gun by trying to take it away.

A 5.7 Round; it's basically a .22 Pistol Round put onto a Large Cartage and the head is shaped to slip through Body Armor, but fragment and lose energy when it hits something of Mass.

It was partly inspired by the North Hollywood Shootout; Military/Law Enforcement Grade is of course Restricted, but the Civilian Version works good enough.

A 5.7 Round; it's basically a .22 Pistol Round put onto a Large Cartage and the head is shaped to slip through Body Armor, but fragment and lose energy when it hits something of Mass.

It was partly inspired by the North Hollywood Shootout; Military/Law Enforcement Grade is of course Restricted, but the Civilian Version works good enough.

Comparing the UK Crime Rate with the US Crime Rate is Misleading as the US had always had a Higher Crime Rate than the UK; if you compare the History of Crime in the UK to Today you'd get a different picture.

In 1910, England had a Murder Rate (All Forms of Murder) of 0.8 Per 100K, back when you could walk into a Hardware Store and Buy any Gun you wished; then England started to pass Gun Laws a little at a time and the Murder Rate started to Climb to its Present Day Rate of 1.6 Per 100K after a Peak of 2.4.

In 1910 the US had a Murder Rate of 8.4 Per 100K and had swung widely between that and around 4 Per 100K in the 50's and back up to around 8 - 9 per 100K in the 70's, dipped in the 80's & Early 90 before heading back up in 95 and started dropping back down to the Now 4 Per 100K after 2,000; With MILLIONS of GUNS SOLD to the GENERAL POPULATION.

Can you explain those numbers to me?

Well I am surprized. I feel sure that is not allowed here in the UK, the carrying and use of firearms is very restricted for the people licensed. Our police officers do not carry a firearm in the course of routine policing, however, there are armed tactical rapid response units that can be called upon when required.

Yes. Let us look at the muder rates, and look at more recent statistics, considering only homicides committed as this is the most violent crime.

in the UK the Office of National Statistics, see webpage below
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/focus-on-violent-crime/index.html

Advises the total number of homicides in 2011/12 was 540 for England and wales, {I accept this is not the complete UK, but it is a very large part}


In the USA using the US Department of Justice Bureau of statistics, see webpage below
http://bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Page 2 shows a graph of Total homicides for 2010 alone (none yet available for 2011/12) at around 15000.

Wikipedia gives UK population in 2011 at 63 million and USA population in 2012 at 314 million.

The USA has 5 times the population of the UK, but has 28 times the number of homicides.

The USA is a far more violent society today than the UK, we would need to look at how many of these homicides were gun crimes, but my guess is that for the USA at least it will be a very high proportion. I believe this does have something to do with the fact that millions of people in the USA own guns compared to far fewer in the UK, this is my opinion.

you're not working for CNN by any chance?
Now,since you think it is the Guns,look up the Firearms per Capita of Switzerland,and the amount of Guncrimes there!
Besides,outlawing Guns in the UK hasn't really done much to the overall amount of violent Crime!
The Criminals just use other Implements!

However, the US Murder Rate is at near historical lows, with the '94 Ban on curtain kinds of guns Expired and Millions of Guns Sold; where as England is still twice as high as before you passed any Gun Laws whatsoever and made owning a gun nearly impossible.

With Gun Bans, England's Murder Rate is Climbing whereas Guns being Bought and Sold the US Muder Rate is Falling; can you explain that?

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I would like some ideas on what to shoot with this gun; that looks like something out of a Sci-Fi Movie.

I was thinking of blowing up a picture of a Borg out of Star Trek, maybe Darth Vader from Star Wars; maybe even the Aliens out of the movies Alien & Preditor.

Something Fitting for the look of this gun that I bought for my First Fully Automatic Rifle now that I have all the Permits to Own and Carry it; though this gun will stay locked away at home when it's not on the shooting range.