"It is psychological.Lets look at the aussie who keeps trying to say evolution is a lie.Well he is from Ken Ham country so that isn't surprising but he has himself so psychologically locked in on Ken Hams beliefs that he hasn't even seen the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution.
I can copy and paste it cause i won't type everything but on the other hand it does have a few unanswered questions.Give it time it will be answered with facts.
Theist have had their unproven fun for 2,000 years it's time science gets it's own proven time."

I'm not arguing that people's belief is not a psychologically induced delusion. The point I am trying to make is that the bible itself does not speak as if it was written by psychologically knowledgeable people; because it wasn't. People didn't know about psychology back then, they may have passively used it like a child trying to fly an F18, but they knew nothing of it as we do in this day and age.

Agree on your final point, they have had enough time to poison the minds of the naive, it is time the truths came to the surface to be embraced by those intellectually gifted enough to take advantage of them.

So who is this person who supposedly walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden?

psychology,,,,speaking of man made things



johnny feels this way, lets determine whats happening that is leading them to feel this way,, and medicate it,,,,,

but tonly if they are 'unhappy', if they profess to be 'happy',,,,and knowledgable of right from wrong (which of course is fairly subjective , psychologically speaking)

then they are perfectly 'sane'

I dont know what you went through in your life,, you assume alot about what it is to study the bible or believe in God,,,

thats what I do know

'morals' are taught and passed down, and dont come from thin air

ASSUMING that morals which are reinforced or written about in the bible are therefore FORCED when being taught ,,, is fallacious

I have above average intelligence from a young age, its not about that

my parents took us all to church during the same periods of our lives (six of us), and we didnt all make the same decisions about Christianity or God,,

we each DISCERNED FOR OURSELF< what made sense to us,,,,,,



its no more terrorism to teach morals, than it is to teach about bodily hygiene

I Can be taught 10000 times that standing under water will make me dry,, but that teaching will not stand the test of time amongst intelligent or unintelligent unless SOMETHING in the experiences of people verfies that it makes sense

apparently, enough people find that the bible makes sense to believe in it and to believe in God,,,,

continuous generalizing that its 'brainwashing' or that it has to do with peoples intelligence are arguments based more in some sense of superiority complex (or often even FALSE pride, and FALSE confidence) than it is in anything that is debatable with facts,,,

lol, but it isnt apparently JUST A BOOK< it is a unique writing in that SO MANY GENERATIONS continue to believe and study it

lets see how long 50 shades of gray lasts, or how many people in the world will know about it 2000 years from now

heck, even our PARENTING sources come and go,,, one generation teaches to set boundaries and use discipline,, and then another 'expert' comes along and says children should develop their own boundaries and be encouraged to just 'be themself' (whatever that means) with positive reinforcement alone

those teachings havent stood up, by the fact they KEEP CHANGING to fit the desires of the culture

the BIBLE Is the only TEACHING RESOURCE That has stood the test of time without changing its lessons to suit the culture,,,


I know myself as a creation of God,,,and I know God (and Jesus)all the better by studying the word,,,,

what constitutes 'understanding others'...? psychology? thats a laugh


the book wasnt with a main purpose of understanding people, its about understanding life , choices , and consequences, and learning Gods design,,,

the book teaches we are all EQUAL in our capcity for sin and forgiveness,, but that those CHOICES are ours to make,,thats what I need to understand about others,,,

and myself

all through the book are examples of how we (people) all sin, as well as examples and explanations of how we can be lead to those sins,,,,,it does more than suggest we need to 'learn about others', it TEACHES About mankind,,,

The word of MAN, you can only assume you know God through that book, you cannot prove it. All you know of God is what you read, it doesn't mean you REALLY know God, you just know what you've been TAUGHT about it, big difference.

more big assumptions,,,,

and btw, what would be 'sad' about not fitting mans standard of an 'accomplishment'?,,

,what kinds of things qaualify as 'accomplishments'?

as you cannot prove that one doesnt know Gods word by studying the bible,,,

or what I 'just know'


<shrugs>

the God argument will never be about either side proving anything,, its all about personal experience and conclusions,,,

Oh and BTW the fact the Bible hasn't changed.....is why it's losing its' stronghold over people. Eventually in this society that is seeking truth more and more it WILL be left in the dust, and only those who are in denial of that fact will believe it. You may hate it, you may wanna stop it, but it will not change it.

Then what makes you think only you have it right then???? Could you not be wrong??

Oh and saying that only YOU and your ilk have it right about God and everyone else is wrong isn't acting superior? that's a laugh! Look in the mirror before you talk about false pride and false confidence ok, because your religion does that as much as you claim others do.

And it IS terrorism when you're insuniating that God expects one thing and one thing only and if you don't comply you are in trouble. That is using God to get what you want, it is blackmailing them, whether you realize it or not it still is.

Lastly......a lot of people have faith in a lot of ridiculous things, does that mean it's true? Kids everywhere think Santa Clause is real, but is he? A million people can be wrong as much as one person can be right.

I am aware it wont be stopped, it is already written that Satan will reign, I expect it,, but I dont have to look forward to it

18 We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them. 19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

21 Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.



the 'Idols' of pride, physical lust and desire, covetousness, and greed are inevitably gaining more power over man,,,

I 'could' be as could you

Ill take my chances, you take yours,,,

I have never said only I have it right, but like most humans, I dont purport to beliefs I have if I think they are 'wrong'....

and what is right is gonna be right , so I dont get the point of assuming that has to do with 'superiority'


and I also dont know what 'one' thing you are implying God wants or that I have said he wants 'one' thing only,,,,

and santa clause has also not been around as long as God and the Bible,, so the comparison still just does more to prove that the BIBLE and GOD are just a bit more significant and potentally 'right' and true,,,

,,but in any case,,,,bottom line is we can choose to believe what we want to believe

if we dont believe Russia exists, for instance, chances are we arent going to try to get there and we wont get there,and since we will never be there we will never see it for ourself and may not believe the explanations people give about filmings or pictures or personal experiences,,,,

yes, some people do believe in ridiculous things, sometimes those ridiculous things turn out to be the truth, and sometimesnot,,,,,

I dont think your disbelief is ridiculous, I understand how you come by it,,,its 'logical' in your case to feel as you feel

its also logical in my case to have my feelings and beliefs,,,

its not a competition,, but anywhere people are openly ATTACKING believers as 'brainwashed' imbeciles and unintelligent, Im gonna speak up in disagreement,,

thats who I choose to be....

and there you go with that judgment again.......how typical.

So many who do not obey these simple rules here.... do not lie. Do not steal. Do not covet. And yet the ones accusing God he is unjust to bring judgement upon them

When man's court here on earth condemns those who do these very things.

Smh.

and likewise when people are gonna say their morals are better than someone else's......I will speak up too because that's who I choose to be. So there.

so, sharing what is written in a book is judgement?

interesting,,,


what am I judging if I say


Im expecting a hurricane, the meteorologists have issued a warning?....lol