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Better education means loading more onto the tax payers/homeowners already heavy load.
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Here are excerpts from a Chicago Tribune editorial titled "United States v. minority children": The Justice Department is concerned that giving vouchers mostly to minority children so they can attend better schools perpetuates segregation. Best then to leave them in their failing schools? It's a sinister argument to say the least. . .
. . . Is the Justice Department's supposed goal doable? That is, can a colorblind choice program exist under the weight of 40-year-old desegregation mandates? Or is Justice's real goal to shut down school choice? Because it certainly looks that way. A skeptic would note that teachers unions, who have given the Obama administration plenty of money and muscle, see vouchers as threats to the public education industry's status quo. This we know: If Justice can persuade the courts to roll back Louisiana's successful program, the feds will have to answer to parents like Lakisha Fuselier. More than 93 percent of the parents of students in the program reported satisfaction this year with their child's school, according to the state superintendent's office. Students who switched schools performed better on literacy and math tests. If sending all those kids back to their failing public schools is progress, as defined by the government, then what a despicable outcome: the federal agency whose title and mission is "justice" perpetuating ... an injustice. Although the title of the above-quoted editorial is "United States vs. minority children", a better-fitting title would be "Democratic Party v. minority children", because this effort to keep poor minority children in poorly-performing schools is coming primarily from Democrat politicians, who are more interested in appeasing their teachers-union masters than they are in providing poor minority children with the best education available. so, on the flip side,, if trying to maintain desegregation is an 'anti black children' policy to keep black children in the poor performing schools with their white counterparts,,,, isn't dismantling the desegregation with vouchers an 'anti whit children' policy that leaves the fellow students of black children behind in those same schools? just wondering why does this become bout 'black children' instead of about better education for children period? Try as I did to find credibility in the argument that giving vouchers to "mostly" minority children so they can attend better schools perpetuates segregation, I could not.....Looking for a problem that does not exist, but has the potential to exist may sound proactive, but the reality is it's just one more example of "how" institutional racism begins when government creates policies that in effect hurt "primarily" black minorities.....One more way to keep blacks at the mercy of government.... Trying to halt continuation of a colorblind program is discrimination....The program does not act based upon race or ethnicity, it acts based unpon income...Income is the ONLY qualifier needed to make application..... To answer your question Harmony....It becomes as question of race to some because 90% of voucher recipients are minorities....I remember a post you made several weeks earlier in which you stated your daughter would be attending private schools...If you have plans to use the voucher system, this latest interference (attempt to control) should be of the utmost concern to you because private education is cost prohibitive for the average wage earner.... The correct answer to the problem is not preventing children who attend sub par rated schools from attending private schools, it's doing whatever it takes to bring those sub par rated schools up to par....Every child attending grades 1 - 12 in America is entitled to receive the best education available.... that's my point I think the better option, instead of diminishing it to a racial issue, is to use it to highlight the need for those INTEGRATED Schools to offer better education,,, We agree....!!!..... 
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Better education means loading more onto the tax payers/homeowners already heavy load. only if you believe a quality education is unavoidably tied to money as a parent, I dont |
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Better education means loading more onto the tax payers/homeowners already heavy load. only if you believe a quality education is unavoidably tied to money as a parent, I dont A stronger argument for Will might be this....In the long run, quality education = less welfare recipients....Quality education is a long term investment in America's future that affects a whole, not just a part of a whole... 
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
Sad truth that!
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
forgive me Dodo, but I am the ONLY person in my family to have to be 'dependent' upon government yet the majority of my family is democratic its false logic that because democrats may tend to reach out more to the needy, that they therefore are in support of the need,,,, |
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Again, personal responsibility, parents paying out of their pockets, would help insure many kids would pay more attention in the classes they are already in.
But, alas, liberals are not interested if it ain't free. |
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
forgive me Dodo, but I am the ONLY person in my family to have to be 'dependent' upon government yet the majority of my family is democratic its false logic that because democrats may tend to reach out more to the needy, that they therefore are in support of the need,,,, It's false logic that Democrats reach out more to the needy. School vouchers are a way to reach out to the needy, but the Democratic Party stands in the way of the needy receiving school vouchers. |
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
forgive me Dodo, but I am the ONLY person in my family to have to be 'dependent' upon government yet the majority of my family is democratic its false logic that because democrats may tend to reach out more to the needy, that they therefore are in support of the need,,,, It's false logic that Democrats reach out more to the needy. School vouchers are a way to reach out to the needy, but the Democratic Party stands in the way of the needy receiving school vouchers. Politicians are always generous with other peoples money! |
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
forgive me Dodo, but I am the ONLY person in my family to have to be 'dependent' upon government yet the majority of my family is democratic its false logic that because democrats may tend to reach out more to the needy, that they therefore are in support of the need,,,, It's false logic that Democrats reach out more to the needy. School vouchers are a way to reach out to the needy, but the Democratic Party stands in the way of the needy receiving school vouchers. correction,, democrats are objecting to vouchers 'in AREAS WHERE HISTORIC SEGREGATION has existed' as much as vouchers reach out to the 'needy', as is evidenced by the allegations in this thread,, in those areas it apparently MOSTLY reaches out to minorities,, causing segregation to be a continuing problem if the claim is people wont vote democrats if they don't depend upon government, it seems the implication is that its the needy who vote for democrats,, which is also a false conclusion apparently, the consensus here is that democrats are seen more as allies to the needy than republicans are,, and that would STILL Be true even if less depended on the government so, unless those needy were going to stop voting at all, those allegedly choosing sides based on need would STILL be more likely to lean democrat then they would republican |
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Politicians are always generous with other peoples money! 
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
forgive me Dodo, but I am the ONLY person in my family to have to be 'dependent' upon government yet the majority of my family is democratic its false logic that because democrats may tend to reach out more to the needy, that they therefore are in support of the need,,,, It's false logic that Democrats reach out more to the needy. School vouchers are a way to reach out to the needy, but the Democratic Party stands in the way of the needy receiving school vouchers. correction,, democrats are objecting to vouchers 'in AREAS WHERE HISTORIC SEGREGATION has existed' as much as vouchers reach out to the 'needy', as is evidenced by the allegations in this thread,, in those areas it apparently MOSTLY reaches out to minorities,, causing segregation to be a continuing problem if the claim is people wont vote democrats if they don't depend upon government, it seems the implication is that its the needy who vote for democrats,, which is also a false conclusion apparently, the consensus here is that democrats are seen more as allies to the needy than republicans are,, and that would STILL Be true even if less depended on the government so, unless those needy were going to stop voting at all, those allegedly choosing sides based on need would STILL be more likely to lean democrat then they would republican The Democrats are anti voucher because the heavily Democratic teacher's union is reduced in power and influence by the success of voucher programs. It is as much a "union" issue as anything else. |
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quality education = less welfare recipients quality education = fewer welfare recipients = less dependence on the government = fewer votes for Democrats It is no wonder that the Democratic Party is opposed to school vouchers.
forgive me Dodo, but I am the ONLY person in my family to have to be 'dependent' upon government yet the majority of my family is democratic its false logic that because democrats may tend to reach out more to the needy, that they therefore are in support of the need,,,, It's false logic that Democrats reach out more to the needy. School vouchers are a way to reach out to the needy, but the Democratic Party stands in the way of the needy receiving school vouchers. correction,, democrats are objecting to vouchers 'in AREAS WHERE HISTORIC SEGREGATION has existed' as much as vouchers reach out to the 'needy', as is evidenced by the allegations in this thread,, in those areas it apparently MOSTLY reaches out to minorities,, causing segregation to be a continuing problem if the claim is people wont vote democrats if they don't depend upon government, it seems the implication is that its the needy who vote for democrats,, which is also a false conclusion apparently, the consensus here is that democrats are seen more as allies to the needy than republicans are,, and that would STILL Be true even if less depended on the government so, unless those needy were going to stop voting at all, those allegedly choosing sides based on need would STILL be more likely to lean democrat then they would republican The Democrats are anti voucher because the heavily Democratic teacher's union is reduced in power and influence by the success of voucher programs. It is as much a "union" issue as anything else.
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Politicians are always generous with other peoples money!
Remember this? 
Republicans are generous with their own money. Democrats are generous with tax dollars. |
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Repulsicons are corrupt, greedy capitalists who care little about the people, but one thing they do know, when the people prosper there is a bigger piece of the pie to pilfer from!
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Repulsicons are corrupt, greedy capitalists who care little about the people, but one thing they do know, when the people prosper there is a bigger piece of the pie to pilfer from! Which could make them less dangerous than that other party....
Or not
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Politicians are always generous with other peoples money!
Remember this?
Republicans are generous with their own money. Democrats are generous with tax dollars. more false logic, there is a mixture of numbers in the graph, there are some blue states that are above red states and some red states above blue states with the exception of Idaho, what the top givers have in common is their ranking of 'very religious',,,,and the 'very religious' do tend to vote republican for whatever reason |
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Politicians are always generous with other peoples money!
Remember this?
Republicans are generous with their own money. Democrats are generous with tax dollars. more false logic, there is a mixture of numbers in the graph, there are some blue states that are above red states and some red states above blue states with the exception of Idaho, what the top givers have in common is their ranking of 'very religious',,,,and the 'very religious' do tend to vote republican for whatever reason What is the chart supposed to show? (to you) |
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the 'very religious' do tend to vote republican for whatever reason
That is because the 'very religious' believe "In God We Trust", not "In Government We Trust". |
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