I'm lost is this topic sex on fist date or what is a good date?

Sex on the 1st date... ive done it waaay back in the day! Older and wiser me... thinks of everything Pacific brought up... Nah... not going there now!

Good date.... laughing and joking... with a few comfortable silent pauses. And he lets me win in bowling!

my apologies ....S*X sells so I borrow it for the tag line , does it matter much anyway ?

i like you ! Just seem straight forward and really down to earth !

Thank you hon... I try to be

Sex on first date is more like havin sex with someone you don't evn know.....I enjoy it anyway cos we'll get to know each other better in the process

Sure, but only if it was with someone I already know. I don't understand how some can just have sex with someone they've never got to know.

I prefer liplock in a first dating.Liplock is the best way to know&understand each without saying too much.Choose some silent place at beach and start doing liplock.I m saying because I have seen mny couples busy in liplock.

"To go Dutch" meaning: you pay for yours and I'll
pay for mine or split the bill
It can be taken two ways; that people think the Dutch are generally good with money,shrewd and
successful,or what's said about many
nations & That they are known to be tight with $$$.I have Dutch friend & work for Dutch
contractors and some seem to be millionaires
in businesses that many can't make it.
So I respect the business savvy and many businesses
ways but I think slavery was a bad 'idea'
I guess if you want to come and kick my azz
then you could always come on Holland American line. Isn't that cruise line owned by British/US
since the Anglo-Dutch 4th war..I wonder why that
is.



The raid of the Medway happened in the second
Anglo-Dutch war when England's idiotic 'Fat' King
Charles 2nd had the county in Bankruptcy and starved the men and lost the labourers.
it happened just about 300 years to the day I was born in 1667 & a year after the great London fire
it took 5 years until men would be paid.
England started out with much success on a couple of fronts & regained control of New England colonies
Known to day as New York then were worn down at sea
fighting both the Dutch and the French.
The king went Against his admiral judgements and
put the main power and pride of the fleet,up the
River Medway and chained it off.
Admiral de Ruyter burnt 3-4 of the ships and got off with the pride of the fleet. (The Royal Charles + the Unity) I believe the keel of the R. Charles is in a museum in the Netherlands.
Considering all the British circumstances they
would have surely fell to the Great Admiral de Ruyter if they kept the ships in the sea but it
would have been honourable.
what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, The
English may not have been the 'Lords of the sea
for the remaining century but it didn't take long
The Dutch navy was very neglected with poor wages
by 1712 and with England's incentive system and
unity with Scotland in 1707, would eventually became Great Britain,it was all for the taking from the Dutch and Most all of the word
After losing the 13 colonies in the rebel
backed by the French in the American Revolution,
Anglo-Dutch,4th war would break out as they were allies for the first half of the 18th century but
the Dutch broke agreements and traded with England's enemies. Great Britain took most of their colonies and more in '97. In 99 (French Revolution)"Vlieter incident" the Dutch Refused to fight and surrendered their ships.
The sun never set on the British Empire as they would rule the sea until the rise of the superpowers USA,as we know it today and USSR.

So if your are going to tell some history then
tell some history Crystal because a do enjoy a little history.
AS interesting an event it was, with famous painting & poems, I do hope you know more about
Anglo-Dutch history than The raid of Medway

Dutch in the Medway
1664-72
by Rudyard Kipling

If wars were won by feasting
Or victory by a song
Or safety found by sleeping sound
How England would be strong
but honour & dominion
Are not maintained so
They are only got by sword & shot
And this the Dutchman knows

The money that should feed us
You spend on your delight,
How can you then have sailor-man
To aid you through the fight
Our fish & cheese are rotten
Which makes the scurvy grow-
We can not serve you if we starve,
And this the Dutchman know

Our ships in every harbour
But neither whole nor sound
And, when we seek to mend a leak
No oakum can be found
Or, if it is, the Caulkers,
And the Carpenters also,
For lack of pay have gone away,
And this the Dutchman knows

Mere powder, guns & bullets,
we scarce can get at all;
The price was spent on merriment
And revel at Whitehall,
While we in tattered doublets
From ship to ship must row
Besearching friends for odds & end
And this the Dutchman knows

No King heed our warnings
No court will pay our claims-
Our King & court for their disport
Do sell the very Thames
For, now de Ruyter's top sail
Of naked Chatham show
We dare not meet him with our fleet
And this the Dutchman knows

*side note:
Some years back I was researching the term "Yankee,
and it was most probably, that it originated from a
common Dutch name Jan Kees or depending on the dialect; ( Kaas ) meaning John Cornelius.
The Dutch pronounce the J as a letter Y.
And the Dutch being famous for their dairy (cheese)
and bringing the dairy cows.
So the British would say here comes John cheese.


Peace <> out

So what's the difference when you wait with sex till the tenth date? Maybe 30 more days before your hospital scene kicks in?
Exaggerated and over-dramatizing is an art

good point .

To quote Samantha from Sex and the City -

"A guy could just as easily dump you if you **** him on the first date as he can if you wait until the tenth."

True story.

Oh come on if you actually wait until you have a fairly good idea of the risk you are taking, know the person enough to have their health status verified, before you knock boots the odds that you are going to lead a nice long life go up radically. Is it a guarantee no but if my future doesn't mean anything to me why should it mean anything to anyone else?

It seems someones favorite number is 666.

OT, addressing the threads title: IMO sex on a first date is usually a recipe for failure.

That's what I was saying if you all ready
know she isn't going to be someone you're interested in relationship wise and you both sleep together then its more likely a mutual thing.
its not like been a teenager anymore, THEN if a girl liked you,she was going to pin you down to a commitment before you were going to touch her.
So many young males lie to get with
her or they are confused with there hormones.

When you get older and a woman that wants more
and you don't, then I would just tell her I wasn't
interested,even if it was stopped in mid tracks.
Girls/woman will stop in the middle of things and Start asking for promises, putting the
Male in a compromising position. I think in that case its as much the females fault if she gets
F* ed & chucked.
Two can play; She plays games & he lies
That's what you get when 'you' do your 'negotiating
half dressed laying down.

If she says she doesn't want to sleep with me
because she likes me and I like her then good
girl..good answer, but I'll try hard if we're
kissing; then I'll want to find out if she's
just on her cycle you know..sorta probe around

Of Course it is recipe for failure. but
if you didn't have future interest in each other
then.....

LOL Nah not particularly. I was playing on the Thread name in both posts but six shared by 2 is a superior trinity as the Father/Son/Holy Ghost. Which may be needed to get that dream date lol.

Hello R

Thanks for those great lines from Kipling:

"...
No King heed our warnings
No court will pay our claims-
Our King & court for their disport
Do sell the very Thames.."

story of many a developing nation??
aah, but we diverse from the main.

...YES PLEASE ?

Nah, if she's up for the cup, then im gonna be a normal red blooded male, wear a condom and ride her like Frankie Dettori on a Derby Horse!