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Topic: The Desire Map
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Tue 12/10/13 03:19 PM
Edited by Lost_in_reverie on Tue 12/10/13 03:21 PM
It's a book by Danielle LaPorte.

I actually stumbled across it as I'm subscribed to the Marie Forleo videos and she interviewed Danielle on the book she published last year (clearly marketing in anticipation of all those new year's resolutions to do better). This is the interview I watched: http://www.marieforleo.com/2013/12/danielle-laporte-goals-desire/#ixzz2n5OvwLuT

I don't necessarily think it's entirely new thinking, and a lot of it is pretty self-explanatory (as most self-help books are), but I do love the way things are packaged. It's so easy to begin re-evaluating your thought process now, before you even read the book. There's an abundance of information around, such as on her website, that walks you through how to look at your current goals and whether they're really what you want.

Essentially, it takes the stress and pressure out of goal-setting because you're looking at the true reasons why you want them: "You're not chasing a goal, you're chasing a feeling", and forcing you to look at smaller ways of getting to where you want to be.

As I say, it's not exactly revolutionary, but it can feel revolutionary if you throw yourself into it - pretty much getting out of it as much as you put in. I'm certainly finding it very useful.

Has anyone read the book? Any thoughts you want to share on it?

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Tue 12/10/13 06:08 PM
Doesn't interest me in the slightest. Why learn from her when you can learn from the wise Seneca, Bacon and Schopenhauer?

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Wed 12/11/13 01:00 AM

Doesn't interest me in the slightest. Why learn from her when you can learn from the wise Seneca, Bacon and Schopenhauer?


I'm not saying it should be a person's only guide in life as there are plenty of books to read and viewpoints to learn about. That doesn't mean there's anything 'wrong' with any particular mindset, it's just working out which way works best for you. Or cherry picking the methods that do work, and leaving the rest for someone else.

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Wed 12/11/13 02:48 AM
Intriguing. Shame there's no "look inside" option. I always like to know a bit more, as I've had books before that looked very promising but didn't really have any added value to what I already knew. And some books lack something, like the Secret, yet millions were made on book-sales.
Great timing to publish though: many ppl are sort of 'lost' when it comes to what they want to do with their lives.

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Wed 12/11/13 02:54 AM
I actually like that the book doesn't seem to be a mystery. She pretty much tells what the book is about and gives you the basic tools without owning the book, but the book is designed as kind of a workbook. If you're on her actual website there's an hour workshop session where she answers questions and talks about the book and how you essentially read through it one way, flip the book, and work through the activities. Sounds interesting anyway, I just wondered if anyone had read it know if there's anymore to learn from it than what she's already talked about.

One of my exes swore by the Secret, didn't appeal to me though.

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Wed 12/11/13 03:32 AM

I actually like that the book doesn't seem to be a mystery. She pretty much tells what the book is about and gives you the basic tools without owning the book, but the book is designed as kind of a workbook. If you're on her actual website there's an hour workshop session where she answers questions and talks about the book and how you essentially read through it one way, flip the book, and work through the activities. Sounds interesting anyway, I just wondered if anyone had read it know if there's anymore to learn from it than what she's already talked about.

One of my exes swore by the Secret, didn't appeal to me though.

The books hasn't been released yet, you can pre-order. So if you want feedback, you'll have to wait, :tongue:
The activities is what doesn't appeal to me that much. I prefer insights and info. I like to do things my own way. Maybe I'll check out that video.

Pre-ordering from the States (Amazon) is very cheap now though. Including shipping it's E6 cheaper than pre-ordering in Holland and the UK is even worse.
I'm thinking about it. But probably first check out that video.

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Wed 12/11/13 01:44 PM


I actually like that the book doesn't seem to be a mystery. She pretty much tells what the book is about and gives you the basic tools without owning the book, but the book is designed as kind of a workbook. If you're on her actual website there's an hour workshop session where she answers questions and talks about the book and how you essentially read through it one way, flip the book, and work through the activities. Sounds interesting anyway, I just wondered if anyone had read it know if there's anymore to learn from it than what she's already talked about.

One of my exes swore by the Secret, didn't appeal to me though.

The books hasn't been released yet, you can pre-order. So if you want feedback, you'll have to wait, :tongue:
The activities is what doesn't appeal to me that much. I prefer insights and info. I like to do things my own way. Maybe I'll check out that video.

Pre-ordering from the States (Amazon) is very cheap now though. Including shipping it's E6 cheaper than pre-ordering in Holland and the UK is even worse.
I'm thinking about it. But probably first check out that video.


I'm sure I've seen lots of the feedback from being last year... oh well. There's actually a sneak peek (21 minutes) of the audiobook here: http://www.daniellelaporte.com/thedesiremap/

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Wed 12/11/13 02:22 PM
Hmmzzz,,, I'm 12 minutes in the 1 hour workshop and already dozing off. What she's doing so far is what I've been doing for years. Analyzing why something is a certain way by asking yourself why, what, how, who, etc. so you dig and dig and dig till you get to the core of an issue.
In intuitive/ spiritual circle that can also be regarded as inner child work, in psychology (Jung) it's called shadowwork.
I'll try to finish the workshop, but I think it's exactly what I thought; old news. whoa

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Wed 12/11/13 02:29 PM

Hmmzzz,,, I'm 12 minutes in the 1 hour workshop and already dozing off. What she's doing so far is what I've been doing for years. Analyzing why something is a certain way by asking yourself why, what, how, who, etc. so you dig and dig and dig till you get to the core of an issue.
In intuitive/ spiritual circle that can also be regarded as inner child work, in psychology (Jung) it's called shadowwork.
I'll try to finish the workshop, but I think it's exactly what I thought; old news. whoa


If it's something you've already been doing, then fab :D

I find I normally get so fixated on tasks and to-do lists that I forget about why I'm doing them. Ultimately stressing myself out with the workload. Nice to be reminded about how I should be approaching those things, even if it is supposed to be common sense.

Her voice is the kind of voice that would work well on sleep hypnosis tapes though! XD

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Wed 12/11/13 02:54 PM
I listened to another 15 minutes then shut it down. I get the feeling she doesn't really understand everything she's talking about herself. Her explanation of the divine masculine and feminine for instance. She's just fumbling her way through and doesn't make much sense of it at all.
Well, glad I checked it out, I ain't gonna buy the book, lol.
There's so many better books available. And yeah, I've been busy with this stuff for years, maybe that's why, dunno.
But each to his own, we all have our own personal ways of learning and absorbing info :)
And I enjoyed investigated a bit of it
flowerforyou

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Wed 12/11/13 02:58 PM

I listened to another 15 minutes then shut it down. I get the feeling she doesn't really understand everything she's talking about herself. Her explanation of the divine masculine and feminine for instance. She's just fumbling her way through and doesn't make much sense of it at all.
Well, glad I checked it out, I ain't gonna buy the book, lol.
There's so many better books available. And yeah, I've been busy with this stuff for years, maybe that's why, dunno.
But each to his own, we all have our own personal ways of learning and absorbing info :)
And I enjoyed investigated a bit of it
flowerforyou


For me I just wondered if there was anything more to learn from purchasing the book than what she'd already described. From what you say, it sounds like that's not the case at all. Objective met! XD

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Wed 12/11/13 03:05 PM


I listened to another 15 minutes then shut it down. I get the feeling she doesn't really understand everything she's talking about herself. Her explanation of the divine masculine and feminine for instance. She's just fumbling her way through and doesn't make much sense of it at all.
Well, glad I checked it out, I ain't gonna buy the book, lol.
There's so many better books available. And yeah, I've been busy with this stuff for years, maybe that's why, dunno.
But each to his own, we all have our own personal ways of learning and absorbing info :)
And I enjoyed investigated a bit of it
flowerforyou


For me I just wondered if there was anything more to learn from purchasing the book than what she'd already described. From what you say, it sounds like that's not the case at all. Objective met! XD

hey, I can only speak for myself, haha. I've been busy with intuitive and personal development and growth for god knows how long, recently got into psychology as well, and then you bump into the same stuff she's talking about.
If it appeals to you, just go for it, follow your own instincts and intuition :) (NR1 rule in life!)
flowerforyou

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Wed 12/11/13 04:04 PM

hey, I can only speak for myself, haha. I've been busy with intuitive and personal development and growth for god knows how long, recently got into psychology as well, and then you bump into the same stuff she's talking about.
If it appeals to you, just go for it, follow your own instincts and intuition :) (NR1 rule in life!)
flowerforyou


I'm definitely adopting some of her questions to how I view goal-setting and such, as that seems to help.

I can certainly understand how much of what she is saying probably is re-packaged forms of earlier guides. I guess that's what a lot of people do - they just put their own spin on it.

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Wed 12/11/13 04:20 PM
Yeah, tricky thing with seminars and the likes is that if you don't really understand a subject yet, you cannot explain how it works either, not really well anyways.
I know from experience, having coached ppl and sometimes I do workshops (as in workshop leader).
There's a word for it, not sure in English, I think you'd say you do not own the subject yet? It's just knowledge that your brain is still trying to understand, it hasn't really sunk in yet. Next step is truly understanding it, then it's wisdom instead of knowledge and the third step is also being able to explain to others how it works (owning it?)
With this part on the divine feminine/masculine it felt as if she hadn't reached that last level yet.
(hope it makes sense what I'm trying to explain, lol)
Also noticed how she tried to answer a couple of questions and fumbled her way through, not really clearly explaining at all.
ANd yeah, I'm a nitpicker, once a teacher always a teacher, hihi

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Thu 12/12/13 12:43 AM

Yeah, tricky thing with seminars and the likes is that if you don't really understand a subject yet, you cannot explain how it works either, not really well anyways.
I know from experience, having coached ppl and sometimes I do workshops (as in workshop leader).
There's a word for it, not sure in English, I think you'd say you do not own the subject yet? It's just knowledge that your brain is still trying to understand, it hasn't really sunk in yet. Next step is truly understanding it, then it's wisdom instead of knowledge and the third step is also being able to explain to others how it works (owning it?)
With this part on the divine feminine/masculine it felt as if she hadn't reached that last level yet.
(hope it makes sense what I'm trying to explain, lol)
Also noticed how she tried to answer a couple of questions and fumbled her way through, not really clearly explaining at all.
ANd yeah, I'm a nitpicker, once a teacher always a teacher, hihi


No, I totally understand what you mean. Are you referring to mastering a subject? I've certainly noticed a difference in being able to recite an answer and knowing the answer based on my own dealings with education.

What kind of workshops do you do?

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Thu 12/12/13 02:06 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Thu 12/12/13 02:13 AM


Yeah, tricky thing with seminars and the likes is that if you don't really understand a subject yet, you cannot explain how it works either, not really well anyways.
I know from experience, having coached ppl and sometimes I do workshops (as in workshop leader).
There's a word for it, not sure in English, I think you'd say you do not own the subject yet? It's just knowledge that your brain is still trying to understand, it hasn't really sunk in yet. Next step is truly understanding it, then it's wisdom instead of knowledge and the third step is also being able to explain to others how it works (owning it?)
With this part on the divine feminine/masculine it felt as if she hadn't reached that last level yet.
(hope it makes sense what I'm trying to explain, lol)
Also noticed how she tried to answer a couple of questions and fumbled her way through, not really clearly explaining at all.
ANd yeah, I'm a nitpicker, once a teacher always a teacher, hihi


No, I totally understand what you mean. Are you referring to mastering a subject? I've certainly noticed a difference in being able to recite an answer and knowing the answer based on my own dealings with education.

What kind of workshops do you do?

Mastering, not sure. If I translate it from Dutch, the word would be "embody". Would that make sense or wrong word? I think it's on a deeper level than mastering something. Difference being something like "knowing love" and "being love".

I don't do workshops very often, they're mostly on intuitive development. Teaching ppl to ground, feel their and/or other's aura, become aware of their own chakras, cleanse their energy system (aura & chakras).
The last one I did was on Love (of self). Finished it of with sound-healing with my shaman instruments which was an overwhelming success :tongue: (was the first time I did that for other ppl, so I was quite nervous about it, haha) --> Shaman drum, ocean drum, wind roarer, chimes etc. No singing bowls. Can do that too, but the shaman instruments have a wonderful (and different) effect.
I have done workshops for special events, i.e. the Venus Transit of 2011 (think it was 2011). Very specific energy at the time because of the transit. So I tune in to that.
Just love doing workshops! (I actually should do it more often)

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Thu 12/12/13 02:09 AM


Don't do them often, but mostly on intuitive development. Teaching ppl to ground, feel their and/or other's aura, become aware of their own chakras, cleanse their energy system (aura & chakras).
The last one I did was on Love (of self). Finished it of with sound-healing with my shaman instruments which was an overwhelming success :tongue: (was the first time I did that for other ppl, so I was quite nervous about it, haha) --> Shaman drum, ocean drum, wind roarer, chimes etc. No singing bowls. Can do that too, but the shaman instruments have a wonderful (and different) effect.
Have done workshops for special events, i.e. the Venus Transit of 2011 (think it was 2011). Very particular energy at the time cause of the transit. So I tune in to that.
Just love doing workshops! (I actually should do it more often)


For some reason I thought you was going to say it was an education-based workshop. Sounds like you have a lot of fun though!

I hope you manage to arrange more for you to enjoy :D

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Thu 12/12/13 02:25 AM



Don't do them often, but mostly on intuitive development. Teaching ppl to ground, feel their and/or other's aura, become aware of their own chakras, cleanse their energy system (aura & chakras).
The last one I did was on Love (of self). Finished it of with sound-healing with my shaman instruments which was an overwhelming success :tongue: (was the first time I did that for other ppl, so I was quite nervous about it, haha) --> Shaman drum, ocean drum, wind roarer, chimes etc. No singing bowls. Can do that too, but the shaman instruments have a wonderful (and different) effect.
Have done workshops for special events, i.e. the Venus Transit of 2011 (think it was 2011). Very particular energy at the time cause of the transit. So I tune in to that.
Just love doing workshops! (I actually should do it more often)


For some reason I thought you was going to say it was an education-based workshop. Sounds like you have a lot of fun though!

I hope you manage to arrange more for you to enjoy :D

Haha, could do that too. That would be more like teaching & coaching in one. Both of which I have done. But I stopped advertising the coaching. I kept ending up with counseling clients, which is not what I want. Coaching is cool, short & sweet, ppl that can be motivated etc.

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Thu 12/12/13 03:15 AM

Coaching is cool, short & sweet, ppl that can be motivated etc.


Ok, with that in mind (particularly since this topic was set up about a book dealing with what we want to feel when goal setting), what books or teachings would be your go-to-guide when looking at aspirations and attitudes? Who would you reference when coaching?

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Thu 12/12/13 05:36 AM
Difficult question as most of the references and books I'd use would be in Dutch, not English :S And what I do is a accumulation of many different studies, courses and so on, not the one thing.
I tend to write my own material for workshops so it's exactly what and how I want it to be.

I'd base it partially on my coaching & counselling education, which is based on various psychological approaches, and a variety of coaching & counselling methods and skills.
I like Jung and coaching that is directed at solutions (don't know the English word for that). So emphasis on what does work and solutions etc. and less emphasis on solving problems.
And apart from that education I'd also include things I've learned from intuitive development courses and workshops.

One book I recommend a lot is Intuitive Development by Linda Keen. Linda is an American, the book has been revised so it's contemporary and also published in English. I got that book from the library last week, but I didn't like it as much as the original book, and that one is not published in English.
The book is not on goal setting, but on becoming more you, the real you. The more one is his/her true self, the better one will and can know his/her goals in life. So to me that part is important.

If you want to work on goals yourself, you might want to look into a PDP (Personal Development Plan) and preferably one that includes SMART analysis as well. You can do a SMART analysis for short term and one for long term goals. Both can be found on the net.

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