Hey mnhiker!! I really love your comebacks and comments. You sure can put a smile on my puzzled face after reading some of the other replys.. I am wondering, will that tropical weather travel to the Indy area since I moved up here from Florida I could use some. Fact is, and surprising as this seemed to me, there are seagulls living here in Indianapolis!! I believe this is proof that our ecosystem is in somewhat of ...confusion!? Also many new species of life forms are being discovered above and below the seas. This plant is definately preparing for a revolution. Time to take back what should never have been destroyed to the level of destruction it has endured. My original question was about the united states and it's foundation but I am enjoying where this topic has gone...looking forward to reading more...