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Yes I would, the reason is because War is going to happen whether or not you work there, if you don't someone else will.....maybe someone who does like war(personally I don't know anyone that does, but many do see that sometimes it is necessary) So choice A, let someone else take the Job, they spend their 30/hr on guns/ammo/ or donating to their pro war causes. or choice B. You take the 30/hr, spend it on things that help war orphans, or donating to an anti-war cause. My point is, War is bad yes, but if you can take even a small percentage of that companies profit and use it for something good why not? War is just an example the main question which i think he is trying to ask is that would you compromise your ethics and values for money in a situation of poverty and hunger? I think I wouldn't "DIRECTLY" compromise my ethics, but I also understand I don't have a choice "indirectly" meaning if I hate war, I'm not going to sign up as a sniper, and actually go to war, but thinking that working in a plant, whether for munitions or not, I don't see as the same thing(but that's me), The reason is because where do you stop on the latter? Do you refuse to work for a clothing manufacture if part of their products make uniforms? Do you refuse to work for a packaging company because they happen to also package MRE's? Do you refuse to work for an oil company because some of their fuel goes to power "the machines of war?" Do you refuse to work Office Supply company that has government contracts to provide office supplies for military bases? I could go on and on, but you see my point, I think it is how you look at it, and life is what you make it(or don't make it) but if I was homeless and got offered a non-violent job I would take it. I got ur point but if we take this particular example of war then the question arises why would one hate war?only ans would be coz he don't like the death of hundred of innocent caused by war. In such case would you directly indulge in making bomb or munition which according to you would cause the deaths which you lament.It is not similar to other conditions you mentioned as they are not directly connected to deaths as making of ammunition and bombs.The very bomb you would make would be the cause of death of many. yea, well... everything is going to die from something... i'm not ordering the bomb drop, nor am i releasing it... it takes quite a few people to drop the bomb, and the only true fault comes from the person that orders it.... |
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job....
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One more thing i would like to add is that here many people are saying that they would do it coz else someone else would do it and hence it would not make any difference.
To this i would like to say that friends in world there always would be one person or another to do any kind of **** things what separate you from that other person is ur choice of not doing particular things.If you are going to do something which you hate and resent that would clearly mean that you are for sale and money has bought you. As far as i am concern there are few things in my values and morals which are flexible and i can adjust to it if the need arises.But then there are certain things in my value that are extremely rigid such as i would never hurt an innocent and i would never make a compromise to it even if mine or my loved one life are at stake . Coz without food and money atleast one can die in peace but with guilt in mind no one can live in peace. |
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious. 
How so? |
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One more thing i would like to add is that here many people are saying that they would do it coz else someone else would do it and hence it would not make any difference. To this i would like to say that friends in world there always would be one person or another to do any kind of **** things what separate you from that other person is ur choice of not doing particular things.If you are going to do something which you hate and resent that would clearly mean that you are for sale and money has bought you. As far as i am concern there are few things in my values and morals which are flexible and i can adjust to it if the need arises.But then there are certain things in my value that are extremely rigid such as i would never hurt an innocent and i would never make a compromise to it even if mine or my loved one life are at stake . Coz without food and money atleast one can die in peace but with guilt in mind no one can live in peace. die or not die... not dying sounds good to me... but to each their own |
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I think the question should be rephrased because i would easily do things i hate if the urgent need arises but there are certain things which are bigger than hate which i would never do because no need can be bigger then those things.
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I think the question should be rephrased because i would easily do things i hate if the urgent need arises but there are certain things which are bigger than hate which i would never do because no need can be bigger then those things. just another choice in life... right or wrong, you still keep going... i think everyone has a line they won't cross, or cross again... |
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Everyone hates war.
Not everyone hates war. Many profit from war. Most "common people" hate war but even some of them favor war. |
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I was taught to love hating gooks.
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Yes I would, the reason is because War is going to happen whether or not you work there, if you don't someone else will.....maybe someone who does like war(personally I don't know anyone that does, but many do see that sometimes it is necessary) So choice A, let someone else take the Job, they spend their 30/hr on guns/ammo/ or donating to their pro war causes. or choice B. You take the 30/hr, spend it on things that help war orphans, or donating to an anti-war cause. My point is, War is bad yes, but if you can take even a small percentage of that companies profit and use it for something good why not? War is just an example the main question which i think he is trying to ask is that would you compromise your ethics and values for money in a situation of poverty and hunger? I think its hard to starve gracefully I have compromised my ethics when I have 'sold' services or products after being with a company and learning the flaws or shortcomings of what they are selling I have compromised my ethics when I have spent five days only seeing my child off to school in the mornings because I had a night shift job that required me to leave before she was home and come back after she was in bed I have compromised my ethics when I have had to make decisions for my companies 'bottom line' instead of the customers interests and needs ,,working in the modern world most often requires us to compromise some of our ethics on many levels ,, its just a matter of which things we are willing to compromise |
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I think the question should be rephrased because i would easily do things i hate if the urgent need arises but there are certain things which are bigger than hate which i would never do because no need can be bigger then those things. just another choice in life... right or wrong, you still keep going... i think everyone has a line they won't cross, or cross again... exactly
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious.
How so? It is unethical to exercise a concern for the future if it comes at the expense of the present.... |
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious.
How so? It is unethical to exercise a concern for the future if it comes at the expense of the present.... very deep i must say Leigh |
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Edited by
Viper1j
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Mon 02/03/14 02:55 PM
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and was homeless and/or unemployed, would you take a $30.00 per hour job in a military munitions plant or help build machines of war?
Are you American? REAL Americans, may not like what their country does, but they will always support their country. 
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious.
How so? It is unethical to exercise a concern for the future if it comes at the expense of the present.... very deep i must say Leigh Thanks Frankie, I like it deep.. |
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and was homeless and/or unemployed, would you take a $30.00 per hour job in a military munitions plant or help build machines of war?
Are you American? REAL Americans, may not like what their country does, but they will always support their country.
???? That is the same line of logic that abused wives say "even though he hits me, he is my husband and I support him".... ....I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;..... domestic being the key word here....even as a soldier the first lines in the oath are about supporting the Constitution..... I support my country, but that is not the same as supporting the government's decisions. |
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Edited by
Viper1j
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Mon 02/03/14 04:02 PM
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and was homeless and/or unemployed, would you take a $30.00 per hour job in a military munitions plant or help build machines of war?
Are you American? REAL Americans, may not like what their country does, but they will always support their country.
???? That is the same line of logic that abused wives say "even though he hits me, he is my husband and I support him".... ....I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;..... domestic being the key word here....even as a soldier the first lines in the oath are about supporting the Constitution..... I support my country, but that is not the same as supporting the government's decisions. I'll buy that, with qualifications.. But these days NOT supporting the government can get you a first class ticket to Gitmo. I think I'll err on the side of sitting in front of my plasma screen tv.
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious.
How so? It is unethical to exercise a concern for the future if it comes at the expense of the present.... very deep i must say Leigh Thanks Frankie, I like it deep.. OOOOOHH,MAMMA!!!  
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious.
How so? It is unethical to exercise a concern for the future if it comes at the expense of the present.... very deep i must say Leigh Thanks Frankie, I like it deep.. OOOOOHH,MAMMA!!!
Me encanta cuando se purga ((((Chris)))) 
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In the situation you describe, the compromise (of ethics) would not be in 'taking' the job, it would be in 'not taking' the job.... Ya got me curious.
How so? It is unethical to exercise a concern for the future if it comes at the expense of the present.... very deep i must say Leigh Thanks Frankie, I like it deep.. OOOOOHH,MAMMA!!!
Me encanta cuando se purga ((((Chris))))
Yo quero. Hasta a ya, tengo que haser con la Manuela. |
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