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let me give an example of a 'where' question and an answer Question: Where does it say that the president is supposed to be paid? Answer: Article II, Section 1 'The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, ' see how simple, and short, and direct that answer is? This is not an example but is purely an idiotic statement as to the topic at hand. Enumerated powers gives congress the ability to pay the president for the president's services. But show me where he gets paid upon leaving office? Not only does this reflect the ignorance of the constitution but shows the desire to remain that way. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. -Benjamin Franklin I agree with Ben,, case in point: show me where anyone asked a question referring to getting paid 'upon leaving office'? the question was, DIRECTLY "Where does it say the President is supposed to be paid" and the DIRECT ANSWER (problematic though it might be for exhibiting how expansive ones knowledge of a subject is) was Answer: Article II, Section 1 'The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, ' |
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dude, persistent in not answering huh? I didn't ask for an EXPLANATION of the different sections of the constitution. I didn't ask about what enumerated powers were? I simply asked what, I believed anyhow, was a straightforward simple question that required an 'address' of some sort 'WHERE in the constitution does it state criminals should not be prosecuted?' ,,now, don't surprise me by actually answering the question directly, I may fall over from a heart attac,, Pure rubbish for the umpteenth time. |
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dude, persistent in not answering huh? I didn't ask for an EXPLANATION of the different sections of the constitution. I didn't ask about what enumerated powers were? I simply asked what, I believed anyhow, was a straightforward simple question that required an 'address' of some sort 'WHERE in the constitution does it state criminals should not be prosecuted?' ,,now, don't surprise me by actually answering the question directly, I may fall over from a heart attac,, Pure rubbish for the umpteenth time.  thank you my insurance hasn't kicked in to cover another heart attack,,,, |
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dude, persistent in not answering huh? I didn't ask for an EXPLANATION of the different sections of the constitution. I didn't ask about what enumerated powers were? I simply asked what, I believed anyhow, was a straightforward simple question that required an 'address' of some sort 'WHERE in the constitution does it state criminals should not be prosecuted?' ,,now, don't surprise me by actually answering the question directly, I may fall over from a heart attac,, Pure rubbish for the umpteenth time. thank you my insurance hasn't kicked in to cover another heart attack,,,, Yep, more rubbish. |
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Only two little comments: 1) Don't believe, know, the difference of non-entitlement people. 2) And from the proliferation of the entitlement crowd, breeding seems to be a superior trait, too bad caring for what is breed isn't part of it. |
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amongst the PPP crowd, suicide seems to be a superior trait,
too bad their false pride and amazing egocentrism causes them to think it a better option than being so low as to ask for 'help' |
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Nothing like a hand up.
Sad part is welfare sluts don't understand, to get up, they have to pull their weight. That hand up doesn't lift dead weight. |
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amongst the PPP crowd, suicide seems to be a superior trait, too bad their false pride and amazing egocentrism causes them to think it a better option than being so low as to ask for 'help' PPP an acronym that would be synonymous with the entitlement crowd, mostly poor, persecuted for their inability to care for themselves, and privileged in thinking they have entitlements. But I wouldn't call what they do to themselves suicide as just pure stupidity, not knowing, not caring. And if I ever found that my life ever needed to be lived through another without that others consent, I would prefer suicide over entitlements. But now if I saw someone fallen into the gutter, I would help them up, help to dust them off and hope them to continue on their way. But if they just prefer to stay in the gutter, the next time I come across them, I would just have a tendency to just have to take a leak. |
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true, its only a small victory as it must be divided 1700 ways So how did more than 1600 get to be 1700, more freeloaders in the woodwork somewhere? I would say in this case it is the corporation that is doing the freeloading |
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a truly educated person does not talk "down" to others. sometimes the very bright simply cannot communicate well about stupid things that don;t matter...and some people are intimidated by others who worked hard for their education because they are testament to the uneducated that they did not. no one should be viewed in a negative or nasty manner because they took the time to get an education, it is indeed wiser to see what you can learn from such a person. but alas that would take brains...lol |
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"Working poor"?
When did flipping burgers become a family supporting career? It's a part time job except management. I just don't understand how some think a job that takes no skill what so ever is a career. If you don't want to be poor stay in school get your HS diploma or higher degree, or learn a trade and make something of yourself. Work hard and show you are worth something. |
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a truly educated person does not talk "down" to others. sometimes the very bright simply cannot communicate well about stupid things that don;t matter...and some people are intimidated by others who worked hard for their education because they are testament to the uneducated that they did not. no one should be viewed in a negative or nasty manner because they took the time to get an education, it is indeed wiser to see what you can learn from such a person. but alas that would take brains...lol I agree, no one should be viewed negatively for getting an education but a person who confuses having formal education with being 'intelligent' or superior and entitled to be pompous and condescending is what we call in our culture an 'educated' fool much sadder than a fool proper who hasn't had the advantage of a formal education,,, and there are brilliant people with out formal education, too to be revered, as opposed to the fools who are fools in spite of being educated, to be pitied and discouraged from breeding,,, |
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"Working poor"? When did flipping burgers become a family supporting career? It's a part time job except management. I just don't understand how some think a job that takes no skill what so ever is a career. If you don't want to be poor stay in school get your HS diploma or higher degree, or learn a trade and make something of yourself. Work hard and show you are worth something. whether the job is part time or full time, being paid for your work is universally ethical, making people feel they should accept whatever is given them for their time and effort, so that they shouldn't take action when they are ripped off is, to me, unethical,, and the companies that get away with it most often are those in industries where people are employed who are most desperate for a job,,,, |
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How would you know that? in my personal injury case, my attorney only received 30 percent and of course, in my criminal case, the state paid expenses to prosecute The state....meaning taxpayers yep, I suppose we should stop prosecuting criminals to save the 'taxpayers' their money?.... Yes, "we" should stop wasting money prosecuting these types of nonviolent offenses. Especially when people know working off the clock is not correct in the first place. Also, there is an entire governmental department assigned to investigate and remedy this type of complaint. The taxpayers already fund this department to safeguard workers from illegal employment practices. I believe a lot of "burger flippers" thought they would get wealthy from suing a large corporation and/or franchisee. They were wrong. And the gentleman who stated the attorney is the one who profited the most is absolutely right. None of the workers received an amount anywhere near his fees. Besides, all they were entitled to was the amount of money they would have earned had they remained on the clock. No undue enrichment for stupidity. Check in on them in six months and I bet you that not a one will have a dime of that money left and will have nothing to show they ever had it. I don't see this as an example of victory for the working class. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 03/19/14 10:56 PM
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you might be surprised what desperate people who feel they should just 'accept any' job might do or what they understand about what can be done to them
they should be paid for their work PERIOD. The employer tried to get their work for FREE and didn't get away with it. That's a win for the worker. how much of the money people have worked for that they can hold onto for six months has nothing to do with it really. |
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30%? 30% of 500,000 dollars is 150,000 dollars... not one of the employees got that much... But think a little deeper, 1600 employees, this would be a class action suit with perhaps one to three or four people representing the class. That would mean that more than 1590 had no actual representation or counsel in the proceedings and are stuck with a judgement unless they returned the paperwork opting out, not opting in. And $150,000, not likely, in class action the lawyers get paid on the side as legal expenses which in this case would probably be well over a million. I just read the number of employees involved...1600! Even if the attorney received NO FEES that amounts to a whopping $312.50 per person! |
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yep, a small victory
but at 8 bucks per hour that was 40 hours worth of 'off the clock' payment to each of them which may be more or less than or equal to the amount of time they spent working off the clock,,,, |
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