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Topic: Another WACO/Ruby Ridge occuring in Nevada
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 04/10/14 05:18 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 04/10/14 05:39 AM

For anyone not familiar with what is happening right now on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada please google it!

It seems the Feds, under the banner of the BLM, are trying to oust ranchers off of state owned grazing lands they simply manage.

It is rumored these actions are simply to remove the ranchers from these lands to allow for corporations to come in and start fracking..... not about the turtles, cattle or grazing rights! It's about oil companies and their political profiteers lining their pockets at the expense of the ranchers, destroying the ranches and businesses, and seizing their homes and lands for corporate profit.....AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! The simple theft of the ranchers cattle is costing taxpayers around $3 MILLION dollars already!

They say it is to "protect the desert tortoise" that these actions are being taken, confiscating cattle, arresting protesters after tazing and beating them, placing snipers on location, motion detectors, radar, helicopters, and hundreds of heavily armed law enforcement... but it seems there is a FED action in progress to euthanize hundreds, maybe thousands, of these turtles even while this is taking place!

Have we had enough of this BS yet?

The POTUS will involve himself in the Zimmerman trial which police found no evidence to prosecute on originally, inflaming racial tension across America, but when rights, freedom and corruption take place against a whole town or state of people..... he remains silent..... as he did with the IRS case against conservatives, or as in the lies he told to cover up the Benghazi attack before the last election..... blaming a youtube video when he knew that wasn't the case from day one..... but his re-election campaign was based on his statements of Al Qaeda being "on the run" under his admin

STANDOFF IN NEVADA: ANOTHER FEDERAL SIEGE AGAINST THE INNOCENT

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhFm80Phqk#t=256

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 05:28 AM
leave it to Holder,after all he was the one involved in Mt.Carmel and Ruby Ridge!
He was Reno's Stooge on both occasions and the Elian Gonzales Problem in Miami!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 04/10/14 05:46 AM

Govt has never been more corrupt than it is under this lying, fascist, community organizer of unknown origin

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 06:12 AM


Govt has never been more corrupt than it is under this lying, fascist, community organizer of unknown origin

...............and he is making good use of the Crud too!

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 06:17 AM


For anyone not familiar with what is happening right now on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada please google it!

It seems the Feds, under the banner of the BLM, are trying to oust ranchers off of state owned grazing lands they simply manage.

It is rumored these actions are simply to remove the ranchers from these lands to allow for corporations to come in and start fracking..... not about the turtles, cattle or grazing rights! It's about oil companies and their political profiteers lining their pockets at the expense of the ranchers, destroying the ranches and businesses, and seizing their homes and lands for corporate profit.....AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! The simple theft of the ranchers cattle is costing taxpayers around $3 MILLION dollars already!

They say it is to "protect the desert tortoise" that these actions are being taken, confiscating cattle, arresting protesters after tazing and beating them, placing snipers on location, motion detectors, radar, helicopters, and hundreds of heavily armed law enforcement... but it seems there is a FED action in progress to euthanize hundreds, maybe thousands, of these turtles even while this is taking place!

Have we had enough of this BS yet?

The POTUS will involve himself in the Zimmerman trial which police found no evidence to prosecute on originally, inflaming racial tension across America, but when rights, freedom and corruption take place against a whole town or state of people..... he remains silent..... as he did with the IRS case against conservatives, or as in the lies he told to cover up the Benghazi attack before the last election..... blaming a youtube video when he knew that wasn't the case from day one..... but his re-election campaign was based on his statements of Al Qaeda being "on the run" under his admin

STANDOFF IN NEVADA: ANOTHER FEDERAL SIEGE AGAINST THE INNOCENT

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhFm80Phqk#t=256

Jay Carney: Al Qaeda is on the run, they're just running forward

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 06:22 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/10/14 06:24 AM

just following Orders!
Wonder if that Copout will work!

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 06:34 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 04/10/14 06:36 AM
Since public property is a collectivist fiction, since the public as a whole can neither use nor dispose of its property,that property will always be taken over by some political elite, by a small clique which will then rule the public,a public of literal, dispossessed proletarians.

Ayn Rand

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/public_property.html

willing2's photo
Thu 04/10/14 06:39 AM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 04/10/14 06:40 AM
I lived on BLM land whenever I visited Az and Nevada.

Then, their rules were very strict.

Get caught going off-road, banned for life. Same as leaving behind trash and unnecessary trampling of dessert plants.

The well water pumped for the livestock tasted sweet. Almost as good as Artesian Water.

Now, Hoosein and his band of pirates are gonna' poison that area with 10s of thousands of gallons of brackish water and anti-freeze.

Who will prepare themselves to die to keep the feds and oil barrens from killing us and generations softly.

Interesting read.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/fool/article/Homeowners-How-Do-Mineral-Rights-and-Fracking-5378983.php

Bobby1050's photo
Thu 04/10/14 07:30 AM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Thu 04/10/14 07:30 AM
Sounds like they are after his WATER.

So he grazes his cattle on public land and does not want to pay a grazing fee? Quit paying it in 1993, actually.

But then he says he owns the land. Then he says he IS willing to pay a grazing fee to the county.

And it's all about a turtle anyway?


So goes the OFFICIAL excuse.

This will be a shameful moment in US history. When turtles have more rights than people, you guys know that.

Oh WAIT ! The OFFICIAL excuse already fell apart...

Government plans to euthanize hundreds of threatened desert tortoises it was supposed to protect

http://rt.com/usa/desert-tortoises-euthanize-nevada-024/

So now we all know it's not about a turtle. The government grows hungry for blood sacrifice.

no photo
Thu 04/10/14 08:57 AM


For anyone not familiar with what is happening right now on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada please google it!

It seems the Feds, under the banner of the BLM, are trying to oust ranchers off of state owned grazing lands they simply manage.

It is rumored these actions are simply to remove the ranchers from these lands to allow for corporations to come in and start fracking..... not about the turtles, cattle or grazing rights! It's about oil companies and their political profiteers lining their pockets at the expense of the ranchers, destroying the ranches and businesses, and seizing their homes and lands for corporate profit.....AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! The simple theft of the ranchers cattle is costing taxpayers around $3 MILLION dollars already!

They say it is to "protect the desert tortoise" that these actions are being taken, confiscating cattle, arresting protesters after tazing and beating them, placing snipers on location, motion detectors, radar, helicopters, and hundreds of heavily armed law enforcement... but it seems there is a FED action in progress to euthanize hundreds, maybe thousands, of these turtles even while this is taking place!

Have we had enough of this BS yet?

The POTUS will involve himself in the Zimmerman trial which police found no evidence to prosecute on originally, inflaming racial tension across America, but when rights, freedom and corruption take place against a whole town or state of people..... he remains silent..... as he did with the IRS case against conservatives, or as in the lies he told to cover up the Benghazi attack before the last election..... blaming a youtube video when he knew that wasn't the case from day one..... but his re-election campaign was based on his statements of Al Qaeda being "on the run" under his admin

STANDOFF IN NEVADA: ANOTHER FEDERAL SIEGE AGAINST THE INNOCENT

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhFm80Phqk#t=256


All over YouTube, all the alternate news channels are covering it.

But think about this, this is all in response to Ukraine. Russia is providing gas to Europe via Ukraine. The Europeans that get that gas refuse to side against Russia (different than siding with). So here comes Odumbo. Needs to up gas production by continuing the destruction of some third world country, these united States, to help get Europe off Russian gas to punish Russia.

Isn't this such a marvelous country, so full of intelligent people that believes the rights of a turtle gives the government so much power they can destroy lives and then kill the turtles when they get their way.

But what do the people do, they whine and cry about the government. Well it's time to wake up, it's not the government. The government is a piece of paper, it can't and don't do anything. And then their is the Sheriff, he needs to start arresting people, the people that are frauds upon their office when they violate their oaths to protect that little piece of paper.

And that is where the militia comes in. They are to protect the Sheriff while justice is being done in the courts, courts of record with juries of peers.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 09:19 AM



For anyone not familiar with what is happening right now on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada please google it!

It seems the Feds, under the banner of the BLM, are trying to oust ranchers off of state owned grazing lands they simply manage.

It is rumored these actions are simply to remove the ranchers from these lands to allow for corporations to come in and start fracking..... not about the turtles, cattle or grazing rights! It's about oil companies and their political profiteers lining their pockets at the expense of the ranchers, destroying the ranches and businesses, and seizing their homes and lands for corporate profit.....AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! The simple theft of the ranchers cattle is costing taxpayers around $3 MILLION dollars already!

They say it is to "protect the desert tortoise" that these actions are being taken, confiscating cattle, arresting protesters after tazing and beating them, placing snipers on location, motion detectors, radar, helicopters, and hundreds of heavily armed law enforcement... but it seems there is a FED action in progress to euthanize hundreds, maybe thousands, of these turtles even while this is taking place!

Have we had enough of this BS yet?

The POTUS will involve himself in the Zimmerman trial which police found no evidence to prosecute on originally, inflaming racial tension across America, but when rights, freedom and corruption take place against a whole town or state of people..... he remains silent..... as he did with the IRS case against conservatives, or as in the lies he told to cover up the Benghazi attack before the last election..... blaming a youtube video when he knew that wasn't the case from day one..... but his re-election campaign was based on his statements of Al Qaeda being "on the run" under his admin

STANDOFF IN NEVADA: ANOTHER FEDERAL SIEGE AGAINST THE INNOCENT

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhFm80Phqk#t=256


All over YouTube, all the alternate news channels are covering it.

But think about this, this is all in response to Ukraine. Russia is providing gas to Europe via Ukraine. The Europeans that get that gas refuse to side against Russia (different than siding with). So here comes Odumbo. Needs to up gas production by continuing the destruction of some third world country, these united States, to help get Europe off Russian gas to punish Russia.

Isn't this such a marvelous country, so full of intelligent people that believes the rights of a turtle gives the government so much power they can destroy lives and then kill the turtles when they get their way.

But what do the people do, they whine and cry about the government. Well it's time to wake up, it's not the government. The government is a piece of paper, it can't and don't do anything. And then their is the Sheriff, he needs to start arresting people, the people that are frauds upon their office when they violate their oaths to protect that little piece of paper.

And that is where the militia comes in. They are to protect the Sheriff while justice is being done in the courts, courts of record with juries of peers.

actually lots of the Gas comes from Norway,not Russia!

Bobby1050's photo
Thu 04/10/14 09:25 AM
Quote from conrad:
actually lots of the Gas comes from Norway,not Russia!
=======================

Which is why you posted a link to support your claim.

Oh WAIT...you didn't.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/10/14 09:51 AM
now they are attacking the protesters....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUYr9ruxjGbBB1MOpuU6tpAQ&v=LhJ6H9vlEDA

no photo
Thu 04/10/14 09:54 AM




For anyone not familiar with what is happening right now on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada please google it!

It seems the Feds, under the banner of the BLM, are trying to oust ranchers off of state owned grazing lands they simply manage.

It is rumored these actions are simply to remove the ranchers from these lands to allow for corporations to come in and start fracking..... not about the turtles, cattle or grazing rights! It's about oil companies and their political profiteers lining their pockets at the expense of the ranchers, destroying the ranches and businesses, and seizing their homes and lands for corporate profit.....AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! The simple theft of the ranchers cattle is costing taxpayers around $3 MILLION dollars already!

They say it is to "protect the desert tortoise" that these actions are being taken, confiscating cattle, arresting protesters after tazing and beating them, placing snipers on location, motion detectors, radar, helicopters, and hundreds of heavily armed law enforcement... but it seems there is a FED action in progress to euthanize hundreds, maybe thousands, of these turtles even while this is taking place!

Have we had enough of this BS yet?

The POTUS will involve himself in the Zimmerman trial which police found no evidence to prosecute on originally, inflaming racial tension across America, but when rights, freedom and corruption take place against a whole town or state of people..... he remains silent..... as he did with the IRS case against conservatives, or as in the lies he told to cover up the Benghazi attack before the last election..... blaming a youtube video when he knew that wasn't the case from day one..... but his re-election campaign was based on his statements of Al Qaeda being "on the run" under his admin

STANDOFF IN NEVADA: ANOTHER FEDERAL SIEGE AGAINST THE INNOCENT

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhFm80Phqk#t=256


All over YouTube, all the alternate news channels are covering it.

But think about this, this is all in response to Ukraine. Russia is providing gas to Europe via Ukraine. The Europeans that get that gas refuse to side against Russia (different than siding with). So here comes Odumbo. Needs to up gas production by continuing the destruction of some third world country, these united States, to help get Europe off Russian gas to punish Russia.

Isn't this such a marvelous country, so full of intelligent people that believes the rights of a turtle gives the government so much power they can destroy lives and then kill the turtles when they get their way.

But what do the people do, they whine and cry about the government. Well it's time to wake up, it's not the government. The government is a piece of paper, it can't and don't do anything. And then their is the Sheriff, he needs to start arresting people, the people that are frauds upon their office when they violate their oaths to protect that little piece of paper.

And that is where the militia comes in. They are to protect the Sheriff while justice is being done in the courts, courts of record with juries of peers.

actually lots of the Gas comes from Norway,not Russia!


And on this thread, a lot is coming from Zurich. But Norway and Zurich is not the topic at hand. Neither has anything to do with what is happening unless you can somehow prove that Norway can replace the gas provided by Russia. Isn't going to happen, is it?

no photo
Thu 04/10/14 09:56 AM


Govt has never been more corrupt than it is under this lying, fascist, community organizer of unknown origin


Actually I would disagree. This government is just a continuation of the one before it. The only difference is this figurehead puppet is much more effective with the unwashed masses that think they deserve freebies.

But then, this one is such an idiot that he has drawn more attention to the illusion than the idiot before him.

And to imagine the intelligent one was called Jeb.

no photo
Thu 04/10/14 10:06 AM

Since public property is a collectivist fiction, since the public as a whole can neither use nor dispose of its property,that property will always be taken over by some political elite, by a small clique which will then rule the public,a public of literal, dispossessed proletarians.

Ayn Rand

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/public_property.html


And just how does that apply here? Ayn Rand (bless her soul) wrote fiction based on a philosophy, a grand philosophy but still a philosophy.

So how does that relate to these united States law of the land? Is it a predisposal to the idiocy of the masses or the inherent trait of man to greed? Just what are you insinuating?

Because you see, in this land there is no provision of the Federal government to own lane, none at all. They may purchase land for forts or buildings, but only with the permission of the state. So where is that argument?

Is this but an attempt to mislead, well the government does that all by itself very effectively, no help needed thank you.

no photo
Thu 04/10/14 10:14 AM

I lived on BLM land whenever I visited Az and Nevada.

Then, their rules were very strict.

Get caught going off-road, banned for life. Same as leaving behind trash and unnecessary trampling of dessert plants.

The well water pumped for the livestock tasted sweet. Almost as good as Artesian Water.

Now, Hoosein and his band of pirates are gonna' poison that area with 10s of thousands of gallons of brackish water and anti-freeze.

Who will prepare themselves to die to keep the feds and oil barrens from killing us and generations softly.

Interesting read.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/fool/article/Homeowners-How-Do-Mineral-Rights-and-Fracking-5378983.php


Sure is interesting to understand just what is at stake, the making of a third world nation. A nation that was once the most powerful on this earth. From a nation of free man capable of production beyond all others on this earth to a nation of slaves not worth the fiat currency it uses.

Wow, what a legacy.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 04/10/14 10:18 AM


Since public property is a collectivist fiction, since the public as a whole can neither use nor dispose of its property,that property will always be taken over by some political elite, by a small clique which will then rule the public,a public of literal, dispossessed proletarians.

Ayn Rand

http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/public_property.html


And just how does that apply here? Ayn Rand (bless her soul) wrote fiction based on a philosophy, a grand philosophy but still a philosophy.

So how does that relate to these united States law of the land? Is it a predisposal to the idiocy of the masses or the inherent trait of man to greed? Just what are you insinuating?

Because you see, in this land there is no provision of the Federal government to own lane, none at all. They may purchase land for forts or buildings, but only with the permission of the state. So where is that argument?

Is this but an attempt to mislead, well the government does that all by itself very effectively, no help needed thank you.


The simple reason,that "Public Property" is a Fallacy!

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Thu 04/10/14 10:41 AM

I lived on BLM land whenever I visited Az and Nevada.

Then, their rules were very strict.

Get caught going off-road, banned for life. Same as leaving behind trash and unnecessary trampling of dessert plants.

The well water pumped for the livestock tasted sweet. Almost as good as Artesian Water.

Now, Hoosein and his band of pirates are gonna' poison that area with 10s of thousands of gallons of brackish water and anti-freeze.

Who will prepare themselves to die to keep the feds and oil barrens from killing us and generations softly.

Interesting read.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/fool/article/Homeowners-How-Do-Mineral-Rights-and-Fracking-5378983.php


But this is just an extension of what already is in northern Nevada.

Oil/gas search: Fracking comes to Nevada

And all that free government land. But here is an article I really like:

Fed govt: No, Nevada, you cannot have oil-and-gas prosperity

And just what would make that change so suddenly, a commitment for Ukraine?

But here is a really good article from the farmers:

Cliven Bundy Calls on Sheriff to Start Arresting BLM Feds

no photo
Thu 04/10/14 10:46 AM

Quote from conrad:
actually lots of the Gas comes from Norway,not Russia!
=======================

Which is why you posted a link to support your claim.

Oh WAIT...you didn't.


There is gas coming from Norway but that isn't the issue. The issue is two fold: 1) to cut off the Russian revenue stream on gas sold to Europe and 2) to buy the loyalty (more like imprison them) with gas from the US.

This is because the European countries that depend on Russia for a substantial portion of their energy won't support the US in their illegal endeavors.

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