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Here is the best explanation of global warming I have heard from a geologist to the UK government. Definitely highlights the scam that made Al Gore a billionaire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1FsIA_G-4 |
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Monday - May 05, 2014 California city looks to sea for water during drought news.yahoo.com/california-city-looks-sea-water-drought-142629739.html And the federal government destroys dams... Over 850 dams destroyed nationwide with more targeted by environmentalists! Americas Big Dam Problem |
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Edited by
AthenaRose2
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Tuesday - May 06, 2014
White House: Expect Floods, Droughts, and Fires www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGxNVctwvs New Push on Climate Change www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUrtrCs0wE Times and theories are changing ... 
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Tuesday - May 06, 2014 White House: Expect Floods, Droughts, and Fires www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGxNVctwvs New Push on Climate Change www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUrtrCs0wE Times and theories are changing ...
this makes more sense.. 
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Edited by
AthenaRose2
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Tue 05/06/14 07:14 AM
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Tuesday - May 06, 2014 White House: Expect Floods, Droughts, and Fires www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGxNVctwvs New Push on Climate Change www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUrtrCs0wE Times and theories are changing ...
this makes more sense..
We all have our own beliefs, but your joke is funny. 
If only it was this easy to undo the damage already done.
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With all due respect, this planet has been around for 4 and a half billion years and it has done far more to itself than man could ever dream of doing.
Yet it survives.. Humans can do NOTHING to stop natural changes in climate.. |
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Edited by
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Tue 05/06/14 08:26 AM
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With all due respect, this planet has been around for 4 and a half billion years and it has done far more to itself than man could ever dream of doing. Yet it survives.. Humans can do NOTHING to stop natural changes in climate.. I guess it depends on what our basic beliefs are. Me personally, I don't believe the world has been around anywhere near that long. And if it's changing as quickly as it has been in the last few decades simply due to natural progression, then we humans better be preparing for shelter on another planet or space stations because this earth will burn itself out on its own before too much longer, the way things are going. On the other hand, if we humans are contributing to the earth's and our own demise on it by how we pollute the air, oceans, even the food we eat, then there are reasonable steps we can take in the early stages to counteract things. IMO. |
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With all due respect, this planet has been around for 4 and a half billion years and it has done far more to itself than man could ever dream of doing. Yet it survives.. Humans can do NOTHING to stop natural changes in climate.. I guess it depends on what our basic beliefs are. Me personally, I don't believe the world has been around anywhere near that long. And if it's changing as quickly as it has been in the last few decades simply due to natural progression, then we humans better be preparing for shelter on another planet or space stations because this earth will burn itself out on its own before too much longer, the way things are going. On the other hand, if we humans are contributing to the earth's and our own demise on it by how we pollute the air, oceans, even the food we eat, then there are reasonable steps we can take in the early stages to counteract things. IMO. Even if you believe that the earth is 6000 years old the historical record exists to show that major natural upheaval of climate has occurred with absolutely no human influence. These things simply cannot be ignored. |
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The fact is that I know more about Global Warming than any could guess. I, in my tenure at NASA have dealt directly with the acquisition of data and had lunch with many of those who have done the studies. It wasn't my area of expertise but since I was traveling all over the world observing ice packs, glaciers, and snow caps in the winter (both hemispheres)and the reductions in the coral reefs and fish in the ocean by scuba, I had lots to talk about when I returned and sometimes before I left.
A main problem is that the facts get twisted to suit whatever political agenda someone is pushing. Al Gore had some facts but used them to push a bologna agenda. The "carbon tax credit" solution was always set up to be just another way to shift income from the "rich countries" to the "poor countries". It wasn't really expected to do much to reduce the amount of global warming caused by man. However, the fact is that man has released enough carbon dioxide and other global warming gases to significantly speed the warming of the planet far faster than what would happen naturally if the historic cycles were predictive. The fact is that the oil companies have done an excellent job of buying misinformation to sell to the public that the whole problem is a hoax. It is not. It just isn't what some (mostly left wing) alarmists sell it to be. It is a problem, It does cause instability in the atmosphere that caused new highs and lows in temperatures and give storms systems additional energy to have bigger tornadoes, more frequent snowstorms, larger hurricanes, longer lasting droughts and more extensive flooding. In other words, it causes exactly the types of unusual weather patterns we have been experiencing for recent years. A major solution to the production of greenhouse gases would be the addition of new nuclear power plants which have safe designs and would feed our new electricity needs for years ... but there is too much false information out there to make it happen. The technology has existed for years to run our cars on CNG (compressed natural gas) but the oil companies and the US government don't want that to happen since it would eliminate the need to import oil (which makes the oil companies a lot of money) and would take the US out of the "petrodollar" standard which now supports the value of the US dollar. Honda, thinking the US would do the logical thing by expanding the availability of CNG nationwide in face of huge increases in oil prices, started mass producing the CNG Honda Civic ... and no one bought it due to no infrastructure... which is pretty stupid of the US since natural gas is available everywhere. A CNG plug-in hybrid car would pretty much take care of the human addition to global warming if combined with nuke based electricity and widespread use. http://ngvsolutions-px.rtrk.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=RL Europe is in deep chit when the source of their fresh water is gone which may not be that far into the future. From Wiki: Glaciers Glaciers are noted as a vital water source due to their contribution to stream flow. Rising global temperatures have noticeable effects on the rate at which glaciers are melting, causing glaciers in general to shrink worldwide.[54] Although the meltwater from these glaciers are increasing the total water supply for the present, the disappearance of glaciers in the long term will diminish available water resources. Increased meltwater due to rising global temperatures can also have negative effects such as flooding of lakes and dams and catastrophic results. I could write a book. |
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The fact is that I know more about Global Warming than any could guess. I, in my tenure at NASA have dealt directly with the acquisition of data and had lunch with many of those who have done the studies. It wasn't my area of expertise but since I was traveling all over the world observing ice packs, glaciers, and snow caps in the winter (both hemispheres)and the reductions in the coral reefs and fish in the ocean by scuba, I had lots to talk about when I returned and sometimes before I left. A main problem is that the facts get twisted to suit whatever political agenda someone is pushing. Al Gore had some facts but used them to push a bologna agenda. The "carbon tax credit" solution was always set up to be just another way to shift income from the "rich countries" to the "poor countries". It wasn't really expected to do much to reduce the amount of global warming caused by man. However, the fact is that man has released enough carbon dioxide and other global warming gases to significantly speed the warming of the planet far faster than what would happen naturally if the historic cycles were predictive. The fact is that the oil companies have done an excellent job of buying misinformation to sell to the public that the whole problem is a hoax. It is not. It just isn't what some (mostly left wing) alarmists sell it to be. It is a problem, It does cause instability in the atmosphere that caused new highs and lows in temperatures and give storms systems additional energy to have bigger tornadoes, more frequent snowstorms, larger hurricanes, longer lasting droughts and more extensive flooding. In other words, it causes exactly the types of unusual weather patterns we have been experiencing for recent years. A major solution to the production of greenhouse gases would be the addition of new nuclear power plants which have safe designs and would feed our new electricity needs for years ... but there is too much false information out there to make it happen. The technology has existed for years to run our cars on CNG (compressed natural gas) but the oil companies and the US government don't want that to happen since it would eliminate the need to import oil (which makes the oil companies a lot of money) and would take the US out of the "petrodollar" standard which now supports the value of the US dollar. Honda, thinking the US would do the logical thing by expanding the availability of CNG nationwide in face of huge increases in oil prices, started mass producing the CNG Honda Civic ... and no one bought it due to no infrastructure... which is pretty stupid of the US since natural gas is available everywhere. A CNG plug-in hybrid car would pretty much take care of the human addition to global warming if combined with nuke based electricity and widespread use. http://ngvsolutions-px.rtrk.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=RL Europe is in deep chit when the source of their fresh water is gone which may not be that far into the future. From Wiki: Glaciers Glaciers are noted as a vital water source due to their contribution to stream flow. Rising global temperatures have noticeable effects on the rate at which glaciers are melting, causing glaciers in general to shrink worldwide.[54] Although the meltwater from these glaciers are increasing the total water supply for the present, the disappearance of glaciers in the long term will diminish available water resources. Increased meltwater due to rising global temperatures can also have negative effects such as flooding of lakes and dams and catastrophic results. I could write a book. And I would definitely buy it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge metalwing... much respect... 
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this makes more sense..
I would have to agree with that. |
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With all due respect, this planet has been around for 4 and a half billion years and it has done far more to itself than man could ever dream of doing. Yet it survives.. Humans can do NOTHING to stop natural changes in climate.. I guess it depends on what our basic beliefs are. Me personally, I don't believe the world has been around anywhere near that long. And if it's changing as quickly as it has been in the last few decades simply due to natural progression, then we humans better be preparing for shelter on another planet or space stations because this earth will burn itself out on its own before too much longer, the way things are going. On the other hand, if we humans are contributing to the earth's and our own demise on it by how we pollute the air, oceans, even the food we eat, then there are reasonable steps we can take in the early stages to counteract things. IMO. Belief or not a belief is immaterial as natural law can't be changed by the belief of man. This earth at times has an elliptical orbit and other times a circular orbit around the sun. Whether man believes or not is immaterial, it is a natural law and immutable. At times the sun is very active, lots of solar flares, other times it is quite, with little to no flares. Whether man believes or not is immaterial, it is a natural law and immutable. The results of the suns activity and the earth's orbit around the sun leads to periods of the earth warming up or cooling down. Whether man believes or not is immaterial, it is immutable. The level of CO2 in the atmosphere is actually low compared to other times in history. In fact during some of earth's colder periods, the atmosphere has actually contained much higher levels of CO2. So this scare tactic to get the masses to allow even greater levels of taxation is absurd. It is but an extension of the intent of Agenda 21, not real science, paid science to further enslave the masses. Now when it comes to pollution, that is a man made phenomena. But nothing is being done about the pollution. And nothing will be done, in a constructive manner, about the pollution until the masses wake up and realize they are not the slaves. Then they can deny the actual servants the assumed power they have stolen from the people that have the true authority. Until then is just more of the same, red team vs blue team and nobody moving forward, just deeper into slavery. |
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http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/101209-508767-three-decades-of-global-cooling.htm http://notrickszone.com/2014/05/02/spiegel-on-antaractic-sea-ice-never-before-has-there-been-so-much-ice-at-this-time-of-year-since-meaurements-began/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles But Al Gore doesn't care, he made it to billionaire status. However the governments must keep up the hoax, it is a key element of control for Agenda 21 and the housing/transportation segments. |
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The fact is that I know more about Global Warming than any could guess. I, in my tenure at NASA have dealt directly with the acquisition of data and had lunch with many of those who have done the studies. It wasn't my area of expertise but since I was traveling all over the world observing ice packs, glaciers, and snow caps in the winter (both hemispheres)and the reductions in the coral reefs and fish in the ocean by scuba, I had lots to talk about when I returned and sometimes before I left. A main problem is that the facts get twisted to suit whatever political agenda someone is pushing. Al Gore had some facts but used them to push a bologna agenda. The "carbon tax credit" solution was always set up to be just another way to shift income from the "rich countries" to the "poor countries". It wasn't really expected to do much to reduce the amount of global warming caused by man. However, the fact is that man has released enough carbon dioxide and other global warming gases to significantly speed the warming of the planet far faster than what would happen naturally if the historic cycles were predictive. The fact is that the oil companies have done an excellent job of buying misinformation to sell to the public that the whole problem is a hoax. It is not. It just isn't what some (mostly left wing) alarmists sell it to be. It is a problem, It does cause instability in the atmosphere that caused new highs and lows in temperatures and give storms systems additional energy to have bigger tornadoes, more frequent snowstorms, larger hurricanes, longer lasting droughts and more extensive flooding. In other words, it causes exactly the types of unusual weather patterns we have been experiencing for recent years. A major solution to the production of greenhouse gases would be the addition of new nuclear power plants which have safe designs and would feed our new electricity needs for years ... but there is too much false information out there to make it happen. The technology has existed for years to run our cars on CNG (compressed natural gas) but the oil companies and the US government don't want that to happen since it would eliminate the need to import oil (which makes the oil companies a lot of money) and would take the US out of the "petrodollar" standard which now supports the value of the US dollar. Honda, thinking the US would do the logical thing by expanding the availability of CNG nationwide in face of huge increases in oil prices, started mass producing the CNG Honda Civic ... and no one bought it due to no infrastructure... which is pretty stupid of the US since natural gas is available everywhere. A CNG plug-in hybrid car would pretty much take care of the human addition to global warming if combined with nuke based electricity and widespread use. http://ngvsolutions-px.rtrk.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=RL Europe is in deep chit when the source of their fresh water is gone which may not be that far into the future. From Wiki: Glaciers Glaciers are noted as a vital water source due to their contribution to stream flow. Rising global temperatures have noticeable effects on the rate at which glaciers are melting, causing glaciers in general to shrink worldwide.[54] Although the meltwater from these glaciers are increasing the total water supply for the present, the disappearance of glaciers in the long term will diminish available water resources. Increased meltwater due to rising global temperatures can also have negative effects such as flooding of lakes and dams and catastrophic results. I could write a book. Fiction!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1FsIA_G-4&index=4&list=WL Geologist Informs UK Gov On Climate Change "Lies" Global Warming is a FRAUD=UN agenda21. But then he is only a Geologist, what would he know? |
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And I would definitely buy it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge metalwing... much respect...
Buy it, you've been selling it since the OP. |
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The fact is that I know more about Global Warming than any could guess. I, in my tenure at NASA have dealt directly with the acquisition of data and had lunch with many of those who have done the studies. It wasn't my area of expertise but since I was traveling all over the world observing ice packs, glaciers, and snow caps in the winter (both hemispheres)and the reductions in the coral reefs and fish in the ocean by scuba, I had lots to talk about when I returned and sometimes before I left. A main problem is that the facts get twisted to suit whatever political agenda someone is pushing. Al Gore had some facts but used them to push a bologna agenda. The "carbon tax credit" solution was always set up to be just another way to shift income from the "rich countries" to the "poor countries". It wasn't really expected to do much to reduce the amount of global warming caused by man. However, the fact is that man has released enough carbon dioxide and other global warming gases to significantly speed the warming of the planet far faster than what would happen naturally if the historic cycles were predictive. The fact is that the oil companies have done an excellent job of buying misinformation to sell to the public that the whole problem is a hoax. It is not. It just isn't what some (mostly left wing) alarmists sell it to be. It is a problem, It does cause instability in the atmosphere that caused new highs and lows in temperatures and give storms systems additional energy to have bigger tornadoes, more frequent snowstorms, larger hurricanes, longer lasting droughts and more extensive flooding. In other words, it causes exactly the types of unusual weather patterns we have been experiencing for recent years. A major solution to the production of greenhouse gases would be the addition of new nuclear power plants which have safe designs and would feed our new electricity needs for years ... but there is too much false information out there to make it happen. The technology has existed for years to run our cars on CNG (compressed natural gas) but the oil companies and the US government don't want that to happen since it would eliminate the need to import oil (which makes the oil companies a lot of money) and would take the US out of the "petrodollar" standard which now supports the value of the US dollar. Honda, thinking the US would do the logical thing by expanding the availability of CNG nationwide in face of huge increases in oil prices, started mass producing the CNG Honda Civic ... and no one bought it due to no infrastructure... which is pretty stupid of the US since natural gas is available everywhere. A CNG plug-in hybrid car would pretty much take care of the human addition to global warming if combined with nuke based electricity and widespread use. http://ngvsolutions-px.rtrk.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=RL Europe is in deep chit when the source of their fresh water is gone which may not be that far into the future. From Wiki: Glaciers Glaciers are noted as a vital water source due to their contribution to stream flow. Rising global temperatures have noticeable effects on the rate at which glaciers are melting, causing glaciers in general to shrink worldwide.[54] Although the meltwater from these glaciers are increasing the total water supply for the present, the disappearance of glaciers in the long term will diminish available water resources. Increased meltwater due to rising global temperatures can also have negative effects such as flooding of lakes and dams and catastrophic results. I could write a book. Fiction!!! And nothing has changed from the last thread on the topic. Still no warming, earth is cooling period and will be for quite some time now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW1FsIA_G-4&index=4&list=WL Geologist Informs UK Gov On Climate Change "Lies" Global Warming is a FRAUD=UN agenda21. But then he is only a Geologist, what would he know? |
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Global Warming Has Never Been Explained Quite So Beautifully
news.yahoo.com/global-warming-never-explained-quite-beautifully-162126072.html |
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Harry Reid: Koch Brothers Are One of the "Main Causes" of Climate Change
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/reid-koch-climate-change_n_5282024.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 |
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Thursday - May 8, 2014
6.8-magnitude Earthquake Shakes Southern Mexico www.cnn.com/2014/05/08/world/americas/mexico-earthquake/index.html |
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