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Topic: Stageing nukes for Iran?
YeaBigsexy's photo
Tue 09/18/07 07:22 PM


Why the hubbub over a B-52 taking off from a B-52 base in Minot, North Dakota and subsequently landing at a B-52 base in Barksdale, Louisiana? That’s like getting excited if you see a postal worker in uniform walking out of a post office. And how does someone watching a B-52 land identify the cruise missiles as nukes? It just does not make sense.

So I called a old friend and retired B-52 pilot and asked him. What he told me offers one compelling case of circumstantial evidence. My buddy, let’s call him Jack D. Ripper, reminded me that the only times you put weapons on a plane is when they are on alert or if you are tasked to move the weapons to a specific site.

Then he told me something I had not heard before.

Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping off point for Middle East operations. Gee, why would we want cruise missile nukes at Barksdale Air Force Base. Can’t imagine we would need to use them in Iraq. Why would we want to preposition nuclear weapons at a base conducting Middle East operations?

His final point was to observe that someone on the inside obviously leaked the info that the planes were carrying nukes. A B-52 landing at Barksdale is a non-event. A B-52 landing with nukes. That is something else.

Now maybe there is an innocent explanation for this? I can’t think of one. What is certain is that the pilots of this plane did not just make a last minute decision to strap on some nukes and take them for a joy ride. We need some tough questions and clear answers. What the hell is going on? Did someone at Barksdale try to indirectly warn the American people that the Bush Administration is staging nukes for Iran? I don’t know, but it is a question worth asking.
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YeaBigsexy's photo
Tue 09/18/07 07:26 PM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Six nuclear warheads on cruise missiles were mistakenly carried on a flight from North Dakota to Louisiana last week, prompting a major investigation, military officials have confirmed.
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A B-52 is seen on the ground at Barksdale Air Force Base, Louisiana, in this file photo.

The plane took the cruise missiles from Minot Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base for decommissioning Thursday, the Air Force said.

"This is a major gaffe, and it's going to cause some heads to roll down the line," said Don Shepperd, a retired Air Force major general and military analyst for CNN.

Shepperd said the United States had agreed in a Cold War-era treaty not to fly nuclear weapons. "It appears that what happened was this treaty agreement was violated," he said.

The warheads should have been removed from the missiles before they were attached to the B-52 bomber, according to military officials. Video Watch the report on the military's investigation »

The crew was unaware that the plane was carrying nuclear weapons, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the extraordinary sensitivity and security surrounding the case.

The mistake was discovered after the plane's flight to Louisiana.

Minot Air Force Base is in north central North Dakota, and Barksdale Air Force Base is in northwest Louisiana near the Texas border.

Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell made clear that concerns about the "error" had escalated to the highest levels.

"Secretary [of Defense Robert] Gates was quickly informed of this incident ... and he has been receiving daily briefings from Gen. Buzz Moseley, the Air Force chief of staff, on actions that the Air Force is taking and the progress of their investigation," Morrell told reporters Wednesday.

"I can also tell you that it's important enough that President Bush was notified of it."

Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton, head of the House Armed Services Committee, called the revelation "deeply disturbing." He said Wednesday that the committee will press the military to "strengthen controls" after the incident.

Military officials told CNN that the incident was a major breach of security rules surrounding nuclear weapons. One official said that he could not recall anything similar happening.

The Air Force announced that all flights of fighters and bombers in the United States will be halted on September 14 to allow for a review of procedures.

Once the mistake was discovered, the Air Force immediately began an inventory of all of its nuclear weapons, a military official said.

Maj. Gen. Douglas Raaberg, director of Air and Space Operations at the Air Combat Command in Langley, Virginia, has been ordered to investigate how the nuclear-tipped missiles were flown across the country without anyone knowing, officials said.

The squad commander responsible for the munitions has been relieved of duty, and several others have been "decertified" from handling nuclear weapons, officials said.

A military official told CNN there was no nuclear risk to public safety because the weapons were not armed. Officials believe that if the plane had crashed or the missiles somehow had fallen off the wings, the warheads would have remained inert and there would have been no nuclear detonation, though conventional explosive material in the warhead could have detonated.

Military officials also say the missiles could not have been launched because of multiple security procedures required to be enacted before any launch would have been authorized.

Shepperd agreed with military officials that the situation could not have caused a nuclear detonation.

But he added, "Any time you have nuclear material on board, if the airplane crashes, nuclear material can be spread in the immediate area of the crash, so you get radioactivity in the immediate area of the crash."
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"This is serious business, but it was not dangerous business," Shepperd said.
Sorry i got them backwards!!!

irad8you's photo
Tue 09/18/07 07:30 PM
Well, i read in 8 to 10 months all heck is going to break loose, we are apparently headed to Iran for a few days of bombing their nuclear sites.

mnhiker's photo
Tue 09/18/07 07:35 PM
Oh, that's just great!

Dumya is going to leave
a great big steaming pile
of poo for the next President
to clean up! noway

davinci1952's photo
Tue 09/18/07 07:56 PM
no shock here...they've been talking about using nukes against Iran for quite a while now...theyre just getting ready for it...the game is on folks...who are the real evil doers in the world?grumble grumble

gardenforge's photo
Tue 09/18/07 11:03 PM
I really don't know what the heck to make of this. If the security of our nukes is that lax, it definately raises my pucker factor several points. We ain't talking a couple of rounds for an M-16 here, we are talking 6 thermonuclear devices that went AWOL and nobody knew? Can you imagine this senario: "Hey, anybody seen them 6 H Bombs I had laying around here a while ago?" I can't seem to find them anywhere, now where the hell did I put them?"

If you buy the official story I have a little piece of land down by the swamp you might be interested in too. If the Air Force is that lax in their security they better take a quick inventory of their airplanes some of them are probably missing too. We will probably never know whole story. The AF will crusify some underling that was marginally involved and hope that calms the storm.

I don't think that the weapons are being staged for an attack on Iran. We wouldn't have to fly nuke tipped missles across the country to get them ready. If we want to nuke Iran, that can take place from weapons already in place aboard ships and subs. What concerns me the most is that if the security of our nukes is really that lax, Osamma don't need to smuggle a dirty bomb into the U.S. he can drop by the Air Force and "borrow" the real thing.

One other senario comes to mind, this could be a staged thing just to give Iran the Hershey Squirts.

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Wed 09/19/07 12:46 AM
grumble The words that you can't Read on this subject are over on rense.com NOW maybe you might just begin to understand this a little...

When they Blew the Hell out of Bagdad,that atomic HOT air mass was carried up into the upper Atomsphere over China,over The Pacific and it came down and swept onto the central and southern California Coastline, I was out side Welding Pipline that night,it was a smell Like Death that burned your lungs,durring the following days there were dead birds everywhere,anything that was small and out that night died,allot of people never new what hit them, they got cancer and are dead,yah I'm sick... grumble

Iran is up against the mountains and we're not talking tactical Nukes, we're talking at least 153, 20MT to 500MT or greater Atomic Warheads,Iran is not all that will be glowig in The Dark...

Depending on The JetStream
everything west of The Rocky Mountains will be dead very soon,the cloud could skip over the Midwest and touch back down throughout northern Europe,for shure Greenland,Scottland and Ireland, god help anyone on North Sea OIL RIGS...

What you people just don't get,is that The Mushroom Clowd goes up 20 miles into The Jet Stream and it only takes a few hours to get here,but it will come and it will kill you too...

So you are Chearing YOUR OWN DEATH MARCH...

Iran has Atomic Weapons that will reach Israel...

Iran would LOVE TO BBQ ISRAEL...

We took out Sadam for Israel,we will take out Iran for Israel...

I say let Israel fight her own fights,we don't NEED THE OIL,WE NEVER NEEDED THE OIL and it was NEVER OUR FIGHT...

I do not wish to be a part of bushco's crime sindicate, why kill a Nation just to get rid of one man...?

But None of you can see that this is MADNESS!!!grumble

davinci1952's photo
Wed 09/19/07 08:36 AM
bravo 8s ....no one will listen.....but I do...

Barbiesbigsister's photo
Wed 09/19/07 10:59 AM
8sgr8 gimme a break dude!!! Your implying that america blasted BAGHDAD with a NUCLEAR WARHEAD....the cloud drifted to the coast of SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...rendering you SICK with radiation?? HA HA HA HA HA!!!! Now i am a blonde but just now that STEWWWWPID shugar. I grew up out there in the DESERT where all the NUCLEAR TESTING went on. The desert in NEVADA. Now i should be DEAD AND GONE by now....ya reckon??!!!drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker

gardenforge's photo
Wed 09/19/07 12:40 PM
You nailed it Big Sis. Where the heck have I been I was wishing we nuked Bagdad and now I find out we did several years ago and I missed it laugh

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Wed 09/19/07 09:52 PM
blushing For Those of you that don't know about exactly what American, Israeli and UK FirePower is, I will clue you in...

Everything over .50 is composed if DU Depleted Uranium, Not Quite as Hat as Plutonium but just as deadly...

It is a byprodict on Atomic Power Plants and TOXIC WASTE that in very hard ti get more... Check out Gukf WAR Sindrome...


You akways away Timd.

gardenforge's photo
Wed 09/19/07 10:14 PM
does the word depleted mean anything to you? Depleted Uranium gives off about as much radiation as the new mantle for a Coleman Gas Lantern or a pallet of bricks just out of the kiln. Yeah they will both trip a geiger counter. Plutonium on the other hand is fissionable radioactive material with a half life of 2000 years.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 09/19/07 10:20 PM
Gary, your a trip!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 09/19/07 10:59 PM
Nukes weren't used in Baghdad....geez....know what you're talking about before speaking. noway noway noway And wtf is rense.com? another bunch of idiots spreading propaganda as you are?

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Thu 09/20/07 07:29 AM
To me it was just a propaganda stunt. To remind us and let Iran see we could have nukes anywhere at anytime. But our technology is far past using nukes to stop anything. The missille defence system they showed us when N. korea was testing long range missilles was for our benefit also. What we see is far outdated weapons.Even bush would not comment on if that missille system we were testing was our defence.We have been working on far greater defence/offence since the mid 80's.Remember the 1st gulf war? When all of a sudden a missille system came out to shoot down scuds? The Patriot missille. In 91 think back to where our computers were compared to now. Shooting a 450mph warhead on a scud would be appr. the equilivent if you took 1 blade of grass and painted it orange 1 mile down the road and you hung out of a car window going 55mph and plucking that 1 blade of grass out of the ground as you drove by. I believe that technology was way past what computers of that day could even think of. Yet our government had it.What ever the milatary shows us we will see what they really have in 20 years. This same technology in the 80's caused russia to buckle when they saw they were in a no win situation. i have seen where a high security Colonel in the USAF who was retiring spoke about our capabilities and all he would say if you have seen star treck don't count it out. I believe him from what I saw in the AF. Then when i watched the 1st gulf war listening to them lie about what was going on in the Straight of hormuz (sp?)You ain't seen noth'in yet nukes are out of date.... Miles

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Thu 09/20/07 07:59 AM
Another tid bit of info. The f-111 which we hear very little about, In the late 80's has no weopons on it all electronic jamming. At that time 2 could fly over the USA and jamm all communications whether landline or not for several hundred miles in each direction. When you saw that 1st night of us bombing Bagdad in 91. The sky lit up because on each side of the stealth bomber was an F-111. It could also show radar that thier were several hundred planes over Bagdad when thier were around 3. That's why the sky lit up over Bagdad. They thought planes were everywhere and were just shooting blindly everywhere.. Also what replaced the SR-71 Blackbird? Has not been much said about that huh.... Miles

Barbiesbigsister's photo
Thu 09/20/07 11:02 AM
8sgr8 NO! let ME clue YOU IN on this rubbish your trying to spread about TOXIC WASTE...FALLOUTS from NUKES and BLASTS. I grew UP in the DESERT where they FIRED OFF THOSE NUCLEAR WEAPONS. NEVADA DESERT. I GREW UP AND LIVED THERE OVER 30 YEARS. What you said is we AMERICANS DROPPED A NUCLEAR BOMB ON BAGHDAD and the aftermath DRIFTED half way around the WORLD to the PACIFIC COAST OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA......ROTFLMFAO!!!
YOU are FULL OF IT BUDDY!!! If it was EVEN BELIEVABLE your TALE and LIE about this FALLOUT DRIFTING THOUSANDS OF MILES and HITTING YOU rendering YOU SICK...then I WOULD HAVE been taking the BIG DIRT NAP LONG BEFORE NOW. I loathe a person who lies and especially someone who LIES ABOUT SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS THAT CRAP.:angry:

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Thu 09/20/07 11:16 AM
milesoftheusa the f111 was invented out by my home. ALLLLL that UFO crapola...all the time just left me ROTFLMFAO!! The skys LIT UP OVER BAGHDAD simply because we went in there BOMBING THE HELLOUTAEM. WE WERE AT WAR. YA RECKON?! I am just sitting here ROARING at this RUBBISH about NUKES...BOMBING BAGHDAD WITH NUKES...F111's jamming the airways...well DUUUUUH!!!! now what will i read in this thread? UFO's have ABDUCTED BIN LADEN?noway noway GET REAL!!!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh

gardenforge's photo
Thu 09/20/07 12:04 PM
you rick big sis:smile:

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Thu 09/20/07 01:00 PM
laugh Tail end of a 30 hour day...

Depleted Uranium is not as hot as Plutonium, but still hot and it will still kill you...

It burns as it travels to it's target, it will pass through 20 inches of Armor Plate like butter, when it goes BOOM!!! it becomes a Gas that is composed of 3 to 5 micron particals, that you breathe or are carried on the wind to other places and it is The Gift that keeps on giving for the next 50,000 years...

I am amazed at how uninformed you people are of these things, I mean you may be able to spell,but you never do any of The Research, so you can know of what you write...


Oh Well, that's why 8sGr8_2Bme...:smile:

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