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Sojourning_Soul
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Fri 05/30/14 08:33 AM
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Baby Critically Burned During SWAT Raid, Stun Grenade Thrown into His Crib. "It landed in his playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face"�� http://thefreethoughtproject.com/baby-critically-burned-swat-raid-stun-grenade-thrown-crib/ |
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Apparently drugs were there. Parents need to think of all possibilities and protect their kids. I'm sorry for the child and I'm sure the police are sorry too. I hope that he recovers.
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Fri 05/30/14 08:55 AM
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"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Ayn Rand -FN-
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The paper reports Thometheva was not at the home at the time of the raid but was later arrested at another house on a felony drug charge of distribution of meth.
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It seems to me that with law enforcement publicly admitting culpability they would be responsible for the innocent child's rehabilitation... or are they holding the baby as guilty as the adults and he is just collateral damage in their war on drugs?
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Baby Critically Burned During SWAT Raid, Stun Grenade Thrown into His Crib. "It landed in his playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face"�� http://thefreethoughtproject.com/baby-critically-burned-swat-raid-stun-grenade-thrown-crib/ First before the grisly matter, I love the style of the author, what a grasp on the real issues. Now to the story, what a sham not only in it's enactment but what will be it's inevitable aftermath. Here we have a travesty because, as the young author portrayed, a war on personal freedom, a war devised to control the populace from something not that harms but keeps a large police populace employed. Next, a flock of lawyers will get involved, after all everybody knows this suit is winnable, the lawyers get rich, the sufferers get stiffed and the public gets taxed to pay all those awards. Then comes the perpetrators, they were only doing their jobs, couldn't arrest earlier, no need that dramatic entry by squads instead of arrest by a few. So how cab their lack of judgement be held accountable, they were just following procedure. In fact they followed procedure so well, let's promote them to a position of higher "authority". God, isn't this a great country we live in? |
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mini-Ruby Ridges and mini-Mt.Carmels daily!
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mini-Ruby Ridges and mini-Mt.Carmels daily! Yeah the perfect reason for total disarmament. Of the government!!!! |
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Edited by
alleoops
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Fri 05/30/14 05:00 PM
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Not saying what the cops did was right but.
Ever see a meth-baby? They are innocent too. |
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Not saying what the cops did was right but. Ever see a meth-baby? They are innocent too. Not totally sure, ah heck let's be honest, don't really care to be sure, but seems that the couple staying there wasn't the meth dealer, but were were staying there due to some misfortune with their house in another state. But still all the wrongs in the world does not justify the strong arm tactics of these police states. It is time the masses insist that these swat tactics get neutered. It never seems to be a problem with being around these horrible criminals during the set-up but then for the arrest, they fear for there lives so much killing a few innocent bystanders are acceptable collateral damage, seems even babies aren't a problem. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sat 05/31/14 02:45 AM
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Drug task force that burned a toddler this week also killed an innocent pastor in 2009 In September 2009, the young pastor Ayers was ministering to a young woman whom a Georgia drug task force was investigating on drug charges. (She had allegedly sold an undercover officer $50 worth of cocaine.) When task force members saw Ayers alone in the car with the woman, they switched their focus to him. According to Ayers's lawsuit, the woman was about to be evicted from the motel at which she was staying. Ayers gave her the $23 in his pocket to help cover her rent. The task force followed Ayers to a convenience store, where he went in to get money from an ATM. When he returned and got into his car they pounced. They pulled up behind him in an unmarked black SUV. Armed agents dressed in street clothes then rushed Ayers's car. He put his car in reverse and attempted to escape. In the process, he nicked one agent. Another then opened fire, killing him. Ayers told hospital staff was that he thought he was being robbed. His reported last words were, "Who shot me?" Ayers had no drugs in his car or in his system, and there was no evidence he was using or distributing anything illegal. Still, local law enforcement officials tried to smear him. They first said he was part of their drug investigation all along, then retracted. The woman the police were following initially said in an interview that Ayers was counseling her and helping her kick her drug habit. Later, while facing criminal charges for a separate incident, she changed her story and claimed that Ayers had been paying her for sex. In the end, Ayers was innocent, and a federal jury awarded his widow a $2 million settlement. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/05/30/drug-task-force-that-burned-a-toddler-this-week-also-killed-an-innocent-pastor-in-2009/ |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sat 05/31/14 03:42 AM
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Not saying what the cops did was right but. Ever see a meth-baby? They are innocent too. The intelligence was bad.... like Bush and Iraq, we're told to believe! That seems to happen a lot these days..... or they simply hit the wrong house..... like the Marine they killed last year who had just come home from his tour in Afghanistan, the 93 yr old in his garage (there have been 3 of these actually), and so many others! 2 weeks ago they ambushed a man walking down the street and killed him.... later found to be NOT who he was "SUSPECTED" to be! Since when does it take a SWAT team for simple civil warrants.... as most of these wrongful deaths occur from such actions it seems? We're told it's to "protect" ARMED OFFICERS with the advantage of training, automatic weapons, surprise, numbers, and armor..... what about PUBLIC safety....which is supposedly their job? These kids had lost their home to fire and been staying here a couple months with their children. The guy the police were after had not been there for some time and was arrested later elsewhere! Sometimes saying "Ooops, sorry!" is NOT a valid excuse ..... but it seems to work for the police state.... even when an innocent life is taken or maimed for life! You might recall the wedding party that was raided a few months ago for a "noise" complaint? They tazered an 89 yr old woman and her pregnant daughter, terrorized the children present and beating many of the male members after they had been handcuffed or otherwise subdued. Killing family pets is also becoming common practice! But the surveillance state works and protects us..... or so we are to believe..... yet facts show our own police have killed at least two times more innocent civilians than the war in Afghanistan has soldiers on the battlefield..... in less time ![]() |
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Many people have noticed that several of the local police officers, particularly the younger ones are more gruff, rude and even abusive as compared to the past. Many veteran officers attribute the shift towards DHS' training of local police which focuses on teaching the police that the public is their enemy as opposed to the traditional view that teaches that the local population and the police are partners in keeping the community safe.
Whatever happened to the friendly neighborhood cop who walked a beat, was well-known and respected by the local residents and was seen as the protector of the neighborhood? Far too often, that cop has been replaced by thugs wearing camouflage, bank robber type black ski masks who are armed with automatic weapons and sometimes even break down the doors of people who are innocent. A Long-Term Trend Towards the Militarization of the Local Police Americans have long maintained that a man's home is his castle and that he has the right to stand his ground in defending his property from dangerous interlopers. Unfortunately, the right to defend one's own home may be disappearing. America has become SWAT team happy. America has seen a disturbing trend towards militarization of its local civilian law enforcement, along with a dramatic and very disturbing rise in the use of paramilitary police units being used for routine police work. The most common use of SWAT teams today is to serve narcotics warrants, usually with forced, unannounced entry into the home. However, anyone can be SWAT-teamed,, even those who default on their student loans have been SWAT-teamed. Since 9/11, and the subsequent militarization of the police by the Department of Homeland Security, about 5,000 Americans have been killed by US police officers. The civilian death rate is nearly equal to the number of US soldiers killed in Iraq. In fact, you are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist. Salt Lake City: The Federalization of Our Police Under the creation of the Unified Police Department (UPD) in Salt Lake City, Utah local jurisdictions and municipalities which were previously controlled by the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office, was reallocated to UPD. The UPD is a regional police force. They answer to no mayor, no city council and no county commissioners. The UPD is Salt Lake City's new police department and serves as the model for the program which is being implemented in other police departments across the nation. This centralized Gestapo type of law enforcement does not belong anywhere in America. It is clear that the police departments are being trained as the local enforcers of the coming martial law and they are also being trained to use horrific brutality. While the majority of police officers are good men, reports like raiding the wrong house and subsequently killing the individuals inside are becoming more common place, and the officers that are involved rarely face any sort of consequences. John Adams 61, was shot and killed by police in a drug raid on the wrong house. His wife Loraine, 70, was also handcuffed and forced to the ground. Not one of the officers has lost their job. In fact, some have even been promoted since the event. Jose Guerena was shot and killed by several members of the Pima County Sheriff's Office on a drug raid that produced no evidence of drug use or that of selling drugs. He was an Iraq veteran and the Pima Sheriffs officers let him bleed to death over the course of an hour after being shot over 60 times. The deputies denied Guerena medical attention. Not one of the officers has lost their job. The Guerena and Adams cases are being played out all across the country. This is unacceptable in a supposed free society. However, what we are witnessing is the militarization of police for what looks like brutal martial law training. Why else would we see such senseless acts of violence being committed by police against American citizens all across the country? The Data Says It Is Time for the Public to Act The CATO Institute's National Police Misconduct Reporting Project, in 2010 there were 4,861 reports of police misconduct involving 6,613 sworn officers and 6,826 alleged victims. The question of police discipline is one of the fox watching the hen house. Far too often the police are left to discipline themselves. Many communities who are dissatisfied with police departments' internal discipline procedures have created volunteer police watch groups to prevent the police from hiding behind the discipline offered by colleagues as they hide behind the "thin blue line", which serves to protect fellow officers accused of wrongdoing. Coupled with the paramilitary design of the police bureaucracy itself, the police give in to what is already a serious problem in the ranks: the belief that the increasing use of power against a citizen is always justified no matter the violation. The police don't understand that in many instances they are the cause of the escalation and bear more responsibility during an adverse outcome. The Cato Institute maintains a botched raid map at this link. The Solution Is to Film Cops in the Performance of Their Duties As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. Police should be filmed in the performance of their duty so there is no question as to whether the police are applying excessive force and are following the Constitution. We can no longer trust cops to operate on their own authority. They must wear cameras. In Minneapolis, the city government voted to spend $25,000 to have cops wear cameras in the performance of their duties. City Council member, Betsy Hodges, said that the city will ultimately save money from lessening the number of law suits. Film Cops and Get Life In Prison Unfortunately, many police are not warm to the idea of being filmed in the performance of their duties. However, it is perfectly legal to film cops so long as they are not interfered with, as nobody in public has an expectation of privacy. Yet, the law has not stopped some cops from abusing their authority and arresting people for harmlessly filming officers in the performance of their duty. Michael Allison, recorded police officers on duty in his front yard inspecting vehicles he was repairing. The police cited Allison for failing to properly register his vehicles, and so he requested an ordinance review hearing. Allison now faces five felony counts, with each count carrying a penalty for 15 years in prison. For videotaping police and a court proceeding, Allison faces an unbelievable total of 75 years, or the rest of his life in prison under Illinois new eavesdropping statutes. Conclusion Clearly, the tide of increasing and deadly police brutality must be stemmed in America. The solutions that should be invoked are (1) invoke the 10th Amendment and forbid DHS to train local law enforcement; (2) repeal the legislation which permits the military and DHS to donate military hardware to local police departments, it is not needed and promotes a paramilitary attitude towards police work; (3) establish a citizen review board which will have authority over all complaints regarding police brutality. The police can longer be allowed to judge their own; and, (4) require all on-duty police to wear cameras. These simple actions could go a long way towards re-establishing civilian control over too many departments which are clearly out of control and are serving to endanger the public as opposed to serving the public. |
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Drug task force that burned a toddler this week also killed an innocent pastor in 2009 In September 2009, the young pastor Ayers was ministering to a young woman whom a Georgia drug task force was investigating on drug charges. (She had allegedly sold an undercover officer $50 worth of cocaine.) When task force members saw Ayers alone in the car with the woman, they switched their focus to him. According to Ayers's lawsuit, the woman was about to be evicted from the motel at which she was staying. Ayers gave her the $23 in his pocket to help cover her rent. The task force followed Ayers to a convenience store, where he went in to get money from an ATM. When he returned and got into his car they pounced. They pulled up behind him in an unmarked black SUV. Armed agents dressed in street clothes then rushed Ayers's car. He put his car in reverse and attempted to escape. In the process, he nicked one agent. Another then opened fire, killing him. Ayers told hospital staff was that he thought he was being robbed. His reported last words were, "Who shot me?" Ayers had no drugs in his car or in his system, and there was no evidence he was using or distributing anything illegal. Still, local law enforcement officials tried to smear him. They first said he was part of their drug investigation all along, then retracted. The woman the police were following initially said in an interview that Ayers was counseling her and helping her kick her drug habit. Later, while facing criminal charges for a separate incident, she changed her story and claimed that Ayers had been paying her for sex. In the end, Ayers was innocent, and a federal jury awarded his widow a $2 million settlement. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/05/30/drug-task-force-that-burned-a-toddler-this-week-also-killed-an-innocent-pastor-in-2009/ Oopsy. ![]() |
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Baby Critically Burned During SWAT Raid, Stun Grenade Thrown into His Crib. "It landed in his playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face"�� http://thefreethoughtproject.com/baby-critically-burned-swat-raid-stun-grenade-thrown-crib/ It's the parent's fault. They should be crack heads who deal drugs and possess major weapons then. Flash bangs are really helpful in situations like this and it tends to save lives. Sometimes $hit just happens. No to mention they had a signed no knock warrant. I don't know why you hate Law Enforcement so much. I deal with local Law Enforcement on a daily basis, I have also dealt with Secret Service, FBI and DEA Agents (Secret Service when there's a counter fitting operation going on they come in and ask for video and statements from employees, FBI when we deal with ORC rings that cross state lines and I have only had a DEA Agent come in once because we took down someone who was dealing major drugs out of the store and we got lucky and stole something on the way out. The guy had enough Heroin on him to put him away for a very long time and he put up one hell of a fight, we called the police then they called this guy in who I thought was a detective at first because he was in plain clothes they kicked us out of the office and closed the damn door. I am guessing they were trying to flip him) and I would say 95% of them re good cops who are in the job for the right reason and then you get s few that are adrenaline junkies then you have your crooked ones (like out local elected Sheriff here in Carson City). |
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mini-Ruby Ridges and mini-Mt.Carmels daily! F that racist Randy Weaver and the pedophile and arms dealer Koresh. Did they mess up at Ruby Ridge, yes. Waco? Hell no. Those people were nuts and several Law Enforcement investigations and independent investigations show the fires were started by Koresh and his most loyal followers. According to Davidians who left the compound and FBI bugs that recorded conversations of Koresh ordering followers to pour gas all over, put propane canisters in place etc. The two mistakes is they shouldn't have called them and warned them they were coming in and to not resist two hours before entry. They also messed up the initial raid by stopping and asking a local for directions who then tipped the Dividians of the up coming initial raid. They also should have gone in around 3 AM when their sleep rhythms were at their low point. Bottom line Koresh was a pedophile and had military grade weapons, two big no no's. |
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