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Topic: Democrats Vote Against First Amendment
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/23/14 07:21 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 06/23/14 07:47 AM

Senate Democrats Vote Against Text of the First Amendment (6/18/2014)

As usual, they lie and provide a "boogey man", despite facts or evidence they themselves are guilty of or initiated.

I swear..... their isn't a working liberal brain or caring, ethical soul in DC politics!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VahhwPL5KY#t=535

It's not about the "money" in politics, that will NEVER change thanks to corporations controlling the media. It's idiot voters who (supposedly) decide by their vote who wins or loses. Money didn't help Cantor!

What this bill sought to do was control the blogger, the soapbox orator, web content, and the voice of the average person, even in forums like this one!

They throw a firecracker to distract from the bomb they intend to set off down the street!

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 10:29 AM
for those who may wish to see the text of the proposal in question

https://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/19/text

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/23/14 10:37 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 06/23/14 10:38 AM

for those who may wish to see the text of the proposal in question

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/19/text


need to slash the "S" from the HTTPS,else the Link won't go live!

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 10:43 AM
hmm , interesting

thanks:smile:

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/23/14 12:56 PM
Yep, it looks to me like some Democrats are trying to suppress free speech. They are wasting their time though.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/23/14 01:10 PM

hmm , interesting

thanks:smile:
:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 01:11 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/23/14 01:15 PM

Yep, it looks to me like some Democrats are trying to suppress free speech. They are wasting their time though.


technically, the issue is about PAID SPEECH< once money is involved it no longer falls under 'free',,,lol

and only pertaining to campaign funds, not shooting the gab about sexual interests or movies or anything,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/23/14 01:25 PM


Yep, it looks to me like some Democrats are trying to suppress free speech. They are wasting their time though.


technically, the issue is about PAID SPEECH< once money is involved it no longer falls under 'free',,,lol

and only pertaining to campaign funds, not shooting the gab about sexual interests or movies or anything,,,


It is still speech.

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 01:31 PM



Yep, it looks to me like some Democrats are trying to suppress free speech. They are wasting their time though.


technically, the issue is about PAID SPEECH< once money is involved it no longer falls under 'free',,,lol

and only pertaining to campaign funds, not shooting the gab about sexual interests or movies or anything,,,


It is still speech.


nope, nothing prohibiting speech, just funds,,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/23/14 01:39 PM




Yep, it looks to me like some Democrats are trying to suppress free speech. They are wasting their time though.


technically, the issue is about PAID SPEECH< once money is involved it no longer falls under 'free',,,lol

and only pertaining to campaign funds, not shooting the gab about sexual interests or movies or anything,,,


It is still speech.


nope, nothing prohibiting speech, just funds,,,,


Comprehension not one of your strong points?

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 01:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/23/14 01:50 PM
one of my best actually, others should try,,,

setting limits on--
``(1) the amount of contributions to candidates for
nomination for election to, or for election to, Federal office;
and
``(2) the amount of funds that may be spent by, in support
of, or in opposition to such candidates.

AND


through setting limits on--
``(1) the amount of contributions to candidates for
nomination for election to, or for election to, State office;
and
``(2) the amount of funds that may be spent by, in support
of, or in opposition to such candidates.
``Section 3. Nothing in this article shall be construed to grant
Congress the power to abridge the freedom of the press.



like i Said, restricting FUNDING,, not speech,,,


kind of like prostitution laws don't impede having sex

they only impede COLLECITNG Funds for that sex

can still have much of the 'free' klnd as we wish,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:11 PM
What we have here is a case of some Democrat politicians wanting to use a constitutional amendment to silence their political opponents because those Democrats can't raise as much money as their opponents can.

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:17 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/23/14 02:19 PM

What we have here is a case of some Democrat politicians wanting to use a constitutional amendment to silence their political opponents because those Democrats can't raise as much money as their opponents can.



not sure of that, since we have twice elected a democrat as president and plenty of democrats have been and continue to be elected into government



kind of like some women wanting to prohibit women from making money with sex because they cant or dont want to go that route

or some christians wanting to probibit same sex marriage because they dont believe in it

usually people oppose things that they dont agree with,, thats pretty natural

and I dont know if these democrats in question have a problem with not being able to raise the money or not feeling like elections should continue to be a classist system determined by who has the most contributions(money) ,,,,

but it should be interesting,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:20 PM
As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:34 PM

As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.


republicans got to have voter id, to suppress votes the other side were getting

this may only prove to be as much a waste of time as that,,,

time will tell

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:48 PM


As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.


republicans got to have voter id, to suppress votes the other side were getting

this may only prove to be as much a waste of time as that,,,

time will tell


Nah. Voter ID is used to prevent voting fraud.

Then again, if you believe in the soft bigotry of low expectations, then you might think that only Republican voters can obtain photo IDs.

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:49 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/23/14 02:52 PM



As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.


republicans got to have voter id, to suppress votes the other side were getting

this may only prove to be as much a waste of time as that,,,

time will tell


Nah. Voter ID is used to prevent voting fraud.

Then again, if you believe in the soft bigotry of low expectations, then you might think that only Republican voters can obtain photo IDs.


and it could be said funding regulations is used to prevent votes being 'bought' rather than earned

but if you believe in the soft bigotry of classism, you may believe only those who can raise obscene amounts of money should get the chance at winning


or that only republicans can raise such money,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:53 PM




As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.


republicans got to have voter id, to suppress votes the other side were getting

this may only prove to be as much a waste of time as that,,,

time will tell


Nah. Voter ID is used to prevent voting fraud.

Then again, if you believe in the soft bigotry of low expectations, then you might think that only Republican voters can obtain photo IDs.


and it could be said funding regulations is used to prevent votes being 'bought' rather than earned

but if you believe in the soft bigotry of classism, you may believe only those who can raise obscene amounts of money should get the chance at winning



Yeah right.

Votes are not being bought. Advertisements are being bought.

metalwing's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:54 PM



As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.


republicans got to have voter id, to suppress votes the other side were getting

this may only prove to be as much a waste of time as that,,,

time will tell


Nah. Voter ID is used to prevent voting fraud.

Then again, if you believe in the soft bigotry of low expectations, then you might think that only Republican voters can obtain photo IDs.


laugh How true!

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/23/14 02:55 PM





As I said before, the proposed constitutional amendment is a waste of time on the part of those proposing it.


republicans got to have voter id, to suppress votes the other side were getting

this may only prove to be as much a waste of time as that,,,

time will tell


Nah. Voter ID is used to prevent voting fraud.

Then again, if you believe in the soft bigotry of low expectations, then you might think that only Republican voters can obtain photo IDs.


and it could be said funding regulations is used to prevent votes being 'bought' rather than earned

but if you believe in the soft bigotry of classism, you may believe only those who can raise obscene amounts of money should get the chance at winning



Yeah right.

Votes are not being bought. Advertisements are being bought.




people don't spend the money on the ads for nothing,, they equal votes,,,

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