2 Next
Topic: OHHH, I see
Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/10/14 03:27 PM


I agree

all conservatives aren't racist

but most racists are MOST LIKELY conservative,,lol


All liberals aren't godless, but godless people are more likely liberals. laugh

no photo
Thu 07/10/14 03:31 PM
Way to keep your heads buried in the *****huh

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/10/14 03:36 PM

Way to keep your heads buried in the *****huh


Is that what they say in the Hebei Province of northern China? laugh

no photo
Thu 07/10/14 03:39 PM


Way to keep your heads buried in the *****huh


Is that what they say in the Hebei Province of northern China? laugh


:laughing: I think so.:laughing:

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/10/14 04:32 PM



I agree

all conservatives aren't racist

but most racists are MOST LIKELY conservative,,lol


All liberals aren't godless, but godless people are more likely liberals. laugh



I agree with that too. Being 'liberal'




open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.



is much less applicable to a lifestyle following the 'old' tradition of christianity,,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/10/14 06:51 PM




I agree

all conservatives aren't racist

but most racists are MOST LIKELY conservative,,lol


All liberals aren't godless, but godless people are more likely liberals. laugh



I agree with that too. Being 'liberal'




open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.



is much less applicable to a lifestyle following the 'old' tradition of christianity,,,,


Christianity isn't a tradition.

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/10/14 06:55 PM





I agree

all conservatives aren't racist

but most racists are MOST LIKELY conservative,,lol


All liberals aren't godless, but godless people are more likely liberals. laugh



I agree with that too. Being 'liberal'




open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.



is much less applicable to a lifestyle following the 'old' tradition of christianity,,,,


Christianity isn't a tradition.




but the idea of 'God' as christians relate to it is not likely to be in line , due to the biblical traditions and principles,,,,

with liberals , more inclined to let the times dictate the values instead of having values be a constant,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/10/14 07:03 PM

with liberals , more inclined to let the times dictate the values instead of having values be a constant,,,


Oh, so liberals have no standard for judging right from wrong. They merely favor whatever feels good to them at the moment.

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/10/14 07:08 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 07/10/14 07:08 PM


with liberals , more inclined to let the times dictate the values instead of having values be a constant,,,


Oh, so liberals have no standard for judging right from wrong. They merely favor whatever feels good to them at the moment.



they are 'less likely' to have some CONSTANT for what is right and wrong,,,yes, this is what I observe and believe,,,

that those professing to be 'liberal' are
much more likely to believe in live and let live and subjective 'wrong' where what is wrong for one is not necessarily wrong for another




christians and those professing to be conservative are more likely to believe wrong is wrong , regardless of who is doing it,,,,


hypocrites not included ,,,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 07/10/14 07:10 PM



with liberals , more inclined to let the times dictate the values instead of having values be a constant,,,


Oh, so liberals have no standard for judging right from wrong. They merely favor whatever feels good to them at the moment.



they are 'less likely' to have some CONSTANT for what is right and wrong,,,yes, this is what I observe and believe,,,

that those professing to be 'liberal' are
much more likely to believe in live and let live and subjective 'wrong' where what is wrong for one is not necessarily wrong for another




christians and those professing to be conservative are more likely to believe wrong is wrong , regardless of who is doing it,,,,


hypocrites not included ,,,,,


So, I was right. Liberals tend to be godless.
Liberals also tend to be Democrats.
Very interesting. laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/10/14 08:08 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 07/10/14 08:11 PM




with liberals , more inclined to let the times dictate the values instead of having values be a constant,,,


Oh, so liberals have no standard for judging right from wrong. They merely favor whatever feels good to them at the moment.



they are 'less likely' to have some CONSTANT for what is right and wrong,,,yes, this is what I observe and believe,,,

that those professing to be 'liberal' are
much more likely to believe in live and let live and subjective 'wrong' where what is wrong for one is not necessarily wrong for another




christians and those professing to be conservative are more likely to believe wrong is wrong , regardless of who is doing it,,,,


hypocrites not included ,,,,,


So, I was right. Liberals tend to be godless.
Liberals also tend to be Democrats.
Very interesting. laugh



wrong
recap

though most democrats may not be liberal, most liberals are most likely democrat (there are also liberal republicans,,)

and

though most democrats may not be godless, most of the godless are most likely democrat (there are also godless republicans)



I am liberal on some issues and conservative on others and I am democrat and christian,,,


few fit neatly in those boxes, but those who fit entirely in a conservative or liberal box,,,,,probably fall within the trends

TBRich's photo
Fri 07/11/14 02:41 PM




As long as the New York Times is willing to pay for it, Krugman will continue his uncivilized, bullying behavior in print, regardless of his politics.

It is his behavior that causes people to have disdain for him.

For example, in the piece that TBRich quotes, Krugman says, "In playing his role as black gatekeeper who grants permission to his fellow conservatives to be racists, the black conservative cult leader used the rhetorical strategy ..."

So, Krugman claims that one is a cult member if one is an African-American conservative.

Now, do you see the problem that people have with Krugman?





seemed to me that Krugman claimed a SPECIFIC African American that he witnessed acted as a gatekeeper giving permission to be racist,,,,I have seen it too

I have seen it in all races, the person people point to to prove their stereotype holds merit because a member of the stereotyped group agrees with it,,,


the religious are often depicted as a 'cult' for sharing common beliefs here, though I do agree its high school behavior, its also common pundit behavior that any number of those people here cite are also guilty of without similar disdain for it.

so, in this case, its the 'conservative cult', in other cases its the 'liberal sheep',,,,,etc,,,etc,,,etc,,,


Yes, people here have engaged in the same behavior that Krugman frequently engages in. However, the people on this site aren't, as far as I know, professional pundits.

By the way, it is "high school behavior" to claim that an African-American conservative gives other conservatives permission to be racists. Seriously, the use of the "race card" to belittle conservatives gets old after awhile.



nah, actually it was 'high school behavior' to call people 'cult' members for sharing beliefs,,,,



Odd, as this part of the definition:

The word "cult" was originally used not to describe a group of religionists, but for the act of worship or religious ceremony. It was first used in the early 17th century, borrowed via the French culte from Latin cultus (worship), from the adjective cultus (inhabited, cultivated, worshiped), derived from the verb colere (care, cultivate).[9] The word "culture" is also derived from the Latin words cultura and cultus, which in general terms refers to the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group; also the characteristic features of everyday existence (as diversions or a way of life) shared by people in a place or time.[10]

While the literal sense of the word is still in use, a derived sense of "excessive devotion" arose in the 19th century. The terms cult and cultist came to be used in medical literature in the United States in the 1930s for what would now be termed faith healing, especially for the US Holiness movement which experienced a surge of popularity at the time, but extended to other forms of alternative medicine as well.[11]

The concept of "cult" as a sociological classification was introduced in 1932 by American sociologist Howard P. Becker as an expansion of German theologian Ernst Troeltsch's church-sect typology. Troeltsch's aim was to distinguish between three main types of religious behavior: churchly, sectarian and mystical. Becker created four categories out of Troeltsch's first two by splitting church into "ecclesia" and "denomination", and sect into "sect" and "cult".[12] Like Troeltsch's "mystical religion", Becker's cults were small religious groups lacking in organization and emphasizing the private nature of personal beliefs.[13] Later sociological formulations built on these characteristics while placing an additional emphasis on cults as deviant religious groups "deriving their inspiration from outside of the predominant religious culture".[14] This is often thought to lead to a high degree of tension between the group and the more mainstream culture surrounding it, a characteristic shared with religious sects.[15] In this sociological terminology, sects are products of religious schism and therefore maintain a continuity with traditional beliefs and practices, and cults arise spontaneously around novel beliefs and practices.[16]

By the late 1930s, the Christian countercult movement began using the term cult to what would formerly have been termed heresy.[17] From this time, i.e. from the perspective of the Christian anti-cult movement, the term "cultist" acquired the connotation of Satanism.[18] This usage became mainstream by the 1960s, e.g. via the best-selling The Kingdom of the Cults (1965). This terminological development which had so far been characteristic of the religious sociology of the United States entered international use with the "ritual abuse" moral panic of the 1980s, which originated in the United States, but by the late 1980s to early 1990s saw international spread throughout most of the Anglosphere, and some parts of Europe.[19]

2 Next