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Which one of the ten commandmens offends you and seEms like it is unreasonable. For that matter, which biblical laws are just wrong?
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So, who should answer this question? Religious people? Atheists? Agnostics? Or anyone will do?
Nominally Catholic, I am more spiritual than strictly religious, but I think those basic rules are still acceptable. Is there something wrong with a respecting and caring for your family and friends, as well as neighbours, not cheating your partner,or not being a liar and a thief? |
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So, who should answer this question? Religious people? Atheists? Agnostics? Or anyone will do? Nominally Catholic, I am more spiritual than strictly religious, but I think those basic rules are still acceptable. Is there something wrong with a respecting and caring for your family and friends, as well as neighbours, not cheating your partner,or not being a liar and a thief? I was kinda directing the question to the athiest types out there, but i guess it is a fair question for anyone. ... THOSE "TYPES" WHO WOULD HAVE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS REMOVED FROM PUBLIC BUILDINGS COME TO MIND IMMEDIATLY, THOUGH. |
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So, what IS offensive about the ten commandments? or is it because of the source? if we recognise the bible as in effect a LAW BOOK, (which it is) , then we are forced to accept that ther is in fact a God. This is the real problem they face. Better to take the commandments off the wall than deal with the possibility that the bible may in fact be full of good advise, which it is. i wonder, if the commandments had been written by some old satan worshiper back in the day, if they would be so offended. i suspect not.
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On a broader scale, Man became civilized and recognized the need for certain rules to keep order while living in close proximity. The rule's necessity should be self evident. The need for telling the truth, not killing your neighbor or screwing his wife, etc., goes a long way to promoting harmony in a group.
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besides, the stuff from the commandments is plagiarized from other places. Just because somethings in the bible doesnt mean people who dont appreciate the bible arent living by the same standards. |
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Edited by
NoMindGamesPlease
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Fri 08/01/14 10:11 AM
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I do not believe in anything just because the priest said so. LOL
As the matter of fact, most of my friends of the same faith agree that I am more a heretic, than a Catholic. God, I am so glad they do not burn people like me anymore!  Atheists? Well some of my friends are also atheists. I can't prove there is God, and they can't prove there isn't, so we agreed to let everyone keep their BELIEFS. It's based all on beliefs anyways - some believe there is, and some believe there isn't God and all of us shall find out when we die. The 10 commandments are fundamentals of ethics, which explores the matters of moral. Perhaps it will surprise you to hear that I know more atheists who try to live by those basic rules, than religious people who claim they try to do so, but their actions in life show quite the opposite. So, in order not to fall into a trap and start generalising, I'd rather stay neutral in these types of discussions. One of my friends who is not religious stated that he would like to see 10 commandments removed from the schools etc., not because he has anything against any religion, but to make it clear to everyone that church had been separated from the state and it should remain that way. I agree with his argument and have no objections. |
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offensive:
causing someone to feel deeply hurt, upset, or angry. seriously? I imagine for those not believing in God, only the commandments involving him would offend Put God first God is jealous so don't worship THINGS Don't misuse Gods name Rest on the 7th day, the other seven commandments are pretty much in line with common sense values,, imho honor your parents Don't murder Don't commit adultery Don't Steal Don't lie on others Don't seek to gain others belongings |
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Let's give everyone a right to believe or not. Why FORCE someone to accept any belief?
If they choose not to believe, so be it. Who has the right to force them to start believing? Who shall throw the first stone? In communism they forced people NOT to believe. Should democracy force them to believe or leave them a freedom of choice? |
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we have freedom of choice
also freedom of expression and speech, to agree or disagree about choices they all kind of go hand in hand,,,,thank goodness |
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we have freedom of choice also freedom of expression and speech, to agree or disagree about choices they all kind of go hand in hand,,,,thank goodness Agreed. 
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I do not believe in anything just because the priest said so. LOL As the matter of fact, most of my friends of the same faith agree that I am more a heretic, than a Catholic. God, I am so glad they do not burn people like me anymore! Atheists? Well some of my friends are also atheists. I can't prove there is God, and they can't prove there isn't, so we agreed to let everyone keep their BELIEFS. It's based all on beliefs anyways - some believe there is, and some believe there isn't God and all of us shall find out when we die. The 10 commandments are fundamentals of ethics, which explores the matters of moral. Perhaps it will surprise you to hear that I know more atheists who try to live by those basic rules, than religious people who claim they try to do so, but their actions in life show quite the opposite. So, in order not to fall into a trap and start generalising, I'd rather stay neutral in these types of discussions. One of my friends who is not religious stated that he would like to see 10 commandments removed from the schools etc., not because he has anything against any religion, but to make it clear to everyone that church had been separated from the state and it should remain that way. I agree with his argument and have no objections. |
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easier question, which of mans 'laws' are offensive
Id gander those which make people feel less 'free' to do what they want,,,but that would be a LONG Thread..lol can you imagine if mans laws could be condensed into just ten? don't steal don't kill(illegally, wars and 'self defense' are another question) ,, I think most people believe we would be fine with just those two,,lol |
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Edited by
NoMindGamesPlease
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Fri 08/01/14 11:59 AM
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@rambill79
Neither you nor I can tell what it shall be, so it remains to be seen... As the song says - Que Sera Sera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc |
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I hate to beat a dead horse, but:
1. the Xian 10 commandments or the ones the bible actually calls the 10 commandments? 2. bible tells non-jewish people to follow the Noahide Code not the 10 commandments There are many offensive parts in the bible: 1. stone to death children, etc 2. well, in fact, a whole of killing=homosexuals, pagans, the sayers of the sooth I must admit, I have a new neighbor and I have been coveting my neighbor's azz |
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klc wrote: "or you are living by Buddhas and just dont recognize it as such. do you see how that works? the more understanding of the world and its variety, the more we are able to follow the commandment of 'love' thy neighbor as thy self... which means acceptance without aggression or imposing our view onto someone else." To be honest, I can't love all people, but I can accept the differences and, as long as they do not FORCE me to accept their beliefs, I can tolerate them without any aggression. Shall I burn in hell because of it, for not being a "good Catholic"? Only God knows... and so shall I when the time comes. Meanwhile, l choose to live and let live. To say LOVE and let love would be dishonest, since I cannot LOVE everyone, but, nevertheless, love them or not, they should be left alone and allowed to enjoy a freedom of choice we all share! |
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The ten commandments is usually the name given to those commandments as described to Moses for the Israelites whom he had delivered from slavery out of Egypt
found in Exodus,,, |
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We are not without sin and that is expected. We are expected to do the best we can, and to be sorry when we fail to do that. Ive been sorry many times, and I will continue that. It will always be my goal to love all my neighbors as my self tho. That is very noble, indeed. May God give you the strength and the wisdom!
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