Topic: POLICE CHIEF EXPLODES ABOUT BLACK CRIME
davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 06:57 PM


sadly, they'll be nothing new unless real life super hero's with super powers show up.


Maybe like the Power Rangers or sumthing.


YEA!

go power ranger!

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 06:58 PM
nah...

i thinkin more like "Don't mess with the Zohan"!

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:03 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 11/16/14 07:09 PM

good and bad,, they both exist

they both evolve, they both change,, and continue to coexist


to believe otherwise is to live a purposeless existence,,,,

there have indeed been times that were better in some ways and worse in other ways,, but people believing in the power of change, helped time to move along towards a greater goal

,,,not superhumans, just humans willing to accept the challenge and believe it can be met,,,


both good and bad don't EXIST!

humans create both good and bad.

thinking they just EXIST, is the mentality that keeps not enough good, and allows more bad to be bred.

and no, good and bad does not co-exist...

bad always gobbles up good, as thats what bad likes...

just ask Hitler...

he didn't much care for co-existence.

but hey, philosophy doth soothe the self soul.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:10 PM
wasted energy , arguing semantics

once I make a cake,, the cake exists

,, its not much deeper than that,,,

understanding they exist,, just like people 'exist'(only after parents 'create' them)


is just facing reality


knowing that power to change and alter what EXISTS is equally real,, is what is necessary for those who are inclined to 'gobble up' bad


but ones philosophy is personal, and not really something to debate

it only determines what we attract to ourselves,, and that is something we also have SOME power in,,,,

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:21 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 11/16/14 07:24 PM
hey...

don't waste any more energy.

followers follow.

what sounds good for them self.

and that keeps ALL CHANGE, for better, from being created.

but hey...

please keep attracting what one wish to attract.

mean while on the total earth's surface, what come to be accepted or supposed to exist, thus shall forever exist.

if one come to accept wrecking it's car in the ditch, it shall forever wreck in the ditch.

if one come to accept rape as bad that just "exist", than rape shall continue to exist, the more so that it does proportionately determined by the number whom deem it "just exist".

racism could be eradicated easily if people didn't accept it as just "always gonna exist"...

creators know anything can be changed, that be not accepted.




msharmony's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:31 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/16/14 07:30 PM
you confuse specific with general

there are many things 'bad' and many things 'good'

and as long as human kind lives, there will continue to be

bigotry, will exist, whether it is In the form of gender, race, geography, classism,,,,its part of the HUMAN CONDITION

acceptance of that part is a different issue
acceptance of how it manifest to action is a different issue


American slavery did end, in one form, but changed to another
segregation did end, in one form, but changed to another

,,Im no idealist, I accept MANKIND Is flawed and will always be flawed,, but that in no way is excuse not to seek ways to make mankind BETTER,,,,

in fact makes one better prepared to tackle the next obstacle that takes the place of the last,, instead of leaving them blindsided by believing they somehow stopped its 'existence' entirely


Dodo_David's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:42 PM
For what it's worth, I don't believe that "black" crime is worse in America than "white" crime".

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:43 PM
Uh, can someone please translate the above post into plain English?

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:44 PM

For what it's worth, I don't believe that "black" crime is worse in America than "white" crime".


ty dido, neither do I

crime is bad,, lol,, crime has been here since America was founded

we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


,,,,few disagree about the ails of CRIME
the disagreement is in the dispensing of JUSTICE,,,

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:44 PM
go get em tiger...

hehehe...

nothing accepted as "will" exist, can be changed, EVER.

some who have logic know such, while others who live but to comfort their emotions, only using words to justify but their own choices of apathy, are equally guilty of creating racism as the one's in the streets hollering racial slurs and committing murder.

IF IT RESURFACED, IT WAS NOT EVER FIXED!

only the gullible whom love to lather in the definitions of words to feel wise and smart were ever stupid enough to be led to believe it was EVER fixed...

and if it wasn't fixed, than their has to be a genuine fix.

if it be a real fix, than it eradicate, in total.

if we exterminate polio in total, it shall not resurface.

but i am sure your quite ok with polio resurfacing too.

with the mentality you are using to justify what is not good.

justification of anything, create more of it.





davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:49 PM
Oopsie...

forgot to put it in dodo language!

omg!

i bow and beg at the feet of the bronze dodo statue and throne.

idiots only understand idiocy.


Dodo_David's photo
Sun 11/16/14 07:56 PM

we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


huh And just who gets to decide that INJUSTICE has been manifested?

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/16/14 08:03 PM


we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


huh And just who gets to decide that INJUSTICE has been manifested?


the people do,,,

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 08:04 PM
apathy is apathetically pathetic since it rely on guesses and rhetoric to substantiate and absolve it self from doing anything to create anything better for anyone as long as it self be not the victim.

those words shouldn't need any translation for the less endowed.

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 08:25 PM



we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


huh And just who gets to decide that INJUSTICE has been manifested?


the people do,,,


forgot a few key words to make this statement the most factual possible...

the people with the MOST MONEY do.

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 11/16/14 08:26 PM



we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


huh And just who gets to decide that INJUSTICE has been manifested?


the people do,,,


Oh, such as the time when O.J. Simpson got away with murder.
The people decided that he was guilty despite what a jury decided.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/16/14 09:03 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/16/14 09:04 PM




we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


huh And just who gets to decide that INJUSTICE has been manifested?


the people do,,,


Oh, such as the time when O.J. Simpson got away with murder.
The people decided that he was guilty despite what a jury decided.



yes,

or the time the LAPD did not get away with framing someone for murder (depending upon ones perception)

and the time Zimmerman got away with murder as well


but I was referring more to systematic injustice than individual cases,,,, in individual cases only 6 to 12 people decide whether a CRIME has been committed

and the people indeed let it be known if they feel there is injustice

like the case with 'separate but equal' laws,, or segregation laws, or slavery,,, or laws that disallowed certain rights to women,,,,all injustices

that the people at some point united to do something about

davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 09:32 PM





we have a justice system to deal with crime

however the SYSTEM can sometimes manifest INJUSTICE instead of justice


huh And just who gets to decide that INJUSTICE has been manifested?


the people do,,,


Oh, such as the time when O.J. Simpson got away with murder.
The people decided that he was guilty despite what a jury decided.



yes,

or the time the LAPD did not get away with framing someone for murder (depending upon ones perception)

and the time Zimmerman got away with murder as well


but I was referring more to systematic injustice than individual cases,,,, in individual cases only 6 to 12 people decide whether a CRIME has been committed

and the people indeed let it be known if they feel there is injustice

like the case with 'separate but equal' laws,, or segregation laws, or slavery,,, or laws that disallowed certain rights to women,,,,all injustices

that the people at some point united to do something about


when people say anything about injustice, you say good and bad always exist, and shall co-exist together...

rendering a complete absolution of what exist that is not good, and actually trying to keep any change from occurring.

obviously you are not for nor of any of those "people" that at some point united together to do anything.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/16/14 09:46 PM
why is this an either or conundrum

I don't dispute injustice

I don't dispute good and bad are reality


there is no way for me to keep good or bad (in general)from happening amongst a world with 9 billion plus human beings, anymore than I can keep mankind from reproducing


,, its really just not that deep


yet, in knowing people reproduce, and bring new life into existence, I can and do have the conscience to pay attention to what that life does,, what is done to that life,, and so on

GOOD AND BAD, are as much a part of humankind as procreating

but there are so many DETAILS that fit under the umbrellas, it leaves plenty of room for us to start with those details and choose the bits that we CAN CHANGE,,,,




davidben1's photo
Sun 11/16/14 10:02 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 11/16/14 10:07 PM


If one actually deemed it self as part of any change, than when asked who informs of the injustice, the answer would NOT BE, "the people"...

it would be "we do"...

as was writ, apathy can only live in what does not actually care, who could actually care less about any harm or bad or injustice being perpetrated upon others.

and most have come to actually defend it, and so it lives, bigger and badder each day, fostered by the voice of defense of it by the supposed carers and self declared Christians and do gooders.

Obviously what we have here is nothing more than glorified Stockholm Syndrome.