Topic: Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD
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Wed 12/31/14 06:01 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/31/14 06:15 AM

Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage

It'��s not a slowdown - it'��s a virtual work stoppage.

NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops - as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.

The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold an emergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration. (funny the rift between citizens and police isn't mentioned.....)

http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/

I'm not sure whether to think this a good or a bad thing.

Police are out of hand usually, and now that they are only responding to serious crime mostly......isn't that their real job? Not boosting profits by minor citations, detentions and ticket quoatas (which they have long denied)?

NY hasn't blown up yet so nothing much has changed except fewer citizens are being hassled and bilked for their hard earned dollars on petty victimless crimes at the moment......

The numbers kind of speak for themselves........

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Wed 12/31/14 07:15 AM


Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage

It'��s not a slowdown - it'��s a virtual work stoppage.

NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops - as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.

The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold an emergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration. (funny the rift between citizens and police isn't mentioned.....)

http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/

I'm not sure whether to think this a good or a bad thing.

Police are out of hand usually, and now that they are only responding to serious crime mostly......isn't that their real job? Not boosting profits by minor citations, detentions and ticket quoatas (which they have long denied)?

NY hasn't blown up yet so nothing much has changed except fewer citizens are being hassled and bilked for their hard earned dollars on petty victimless crimes at the moment......

The numbers kind of speak for themselves........


I think its great!!,

You can't drive in the city without getting a ticket.. forget about parking. The city and traffic cops have it down to a science.. traffic cops walking all over the place.. and they pounce on you if you are a minute late at the meter or for the smallest infraction. The signs are so many and so confusing that you have no idea what the hell you are supposed to do. ( that's on purpose too)

Many of the parking tickets are bogus.. but they know you are not going to take a day off of work to fight it.


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Wed 12/31/14 08:23 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/12/05/dont-support-laws-you-are-not-willing-to-kill-to-enforce/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703749504576172714184601654

As Criminal Laws Proliferate, More Are Ensnared

http://burneylawfirm.com/blog/2010/10/30/decent-law-abiding-citizen-go-directly-to-jail/

Tell the stupid Legislators to cool it!mad

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Wed 12/31/14 08:37 AM
I suspect inside sinister motiv�s regarding those deaths and the current issue

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Wed 12/31/14 09:31 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-eric-garner-laws-felons-chokehold-perspec-1125-20141204-story.html

With so many laws, we could all be felons


<<<<<Part of the problem, Husak suggests, is the growing tendency of legislatures — including Congress — to toss in a criminal sanction at the end of countless bills on countless subjects. It's as though making an offense criminal shows how much we care about it.

Well, maybe so. But making an offense criminal also means that the police will go armed to enforce it. Overcriminalization matters, Husak says, because the costs of facing criminal sanction are so high and because the criminal law can no longer sort out the law-abiding from the non-law-abiding. True enough. But it also matters because — as the Garner case reminds us — the police might kill you.

I don't mean this as a criticism of cops, whose job after all is to carry out the legislative will. The criticism is of a political system that takes such bizarre delight in creating new crimes for the cops to enforce. It's unlikely that the New York legislature, in creating the crime of selling untaxed cigarettes, imagined that anyone would die for violating it. But a wise legislator would give the matter some thought before creating a crime. Officials who fail to take into account the obvious fact that the laws they're so eager to pass will be enforced at the point of a gun cannot fairly be described as public servants.

Husak suggests as one solution interpreting the Constitution to include a right not to be punished. This in turn would mean that before a legislature could criminalize a particular behavior, it would have to show a public interest significantly higher than for most forms of legislation.

He offers the example of a legislature that decides "to prohibit — on pain of criminal liability — the consumption of designated unhealthy foods such as doughnuts."

Of course, activists on the right and the left tend to believe that all of their causes are of great importance. Whatever they want to ban or require, they seem unalterably persuaded that the use of state power is appropriate.

That's too bad. Every new law requires enforcement; every act of enforcement includes the possibility of violence. There are many painful lessons to be drawn from the Garner tragedy, but one of them, sadly, is the same as the advice I give my students on the first day of classes: Don't ever fight to make something illegal unless you're willing to risk the lives of your fellow citizens to get your way.>>>>>>>