Topic: flag contoversy?
mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 12:46 PM

I think it's a beautiful expression of love of country and family.

people can post pics of themselves at sporting events wrapped in the flag of their choice whether it's of a nation ora pparticular team.

yet someone complains at a tasteful expression of pride and love???


right? some people are just not happy

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 03/15/15 12:48 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sun 03/15/15 12:51 PM


we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...



really most of our USA flags are made in china lol


and how many people if flying their usa flag and its starts to rain run out and get it I can say not many and if u like I can say that is very disrespectaful of our flag ...

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 03/15/15 12:48 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sun 03/15/15 12:49 PM


we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...




mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 01:07 PM



we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...




really most of our USA flags are made in china lol


and how many people if flying their usa flag and its starts to rain run out and get it I can say not many and if u like I can say that is very disrespectaful of our flag ...


it's about the symbol, what it represents... being made in china sucks balls, yes, but having pride for what it represents and what our ancestors went through so you have the right to have pride...


anyone know what this picture means?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima

everyone takes everything we have for granted now, everything our ancestors worked so hard for... even the right to not have any pride for what it means...

no photo
Sun 03/15/15 01:12 PM




we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...




really most of our USA flags are made in china lol


and how many people if flying their usa flag and its starts to rain run out and get it I can say not many and if u like I can say that is very disrespectaful of our flag ...


it's about the symbol, what it represents... being made in china sucks balls, yes, but having pride for what it represents and what our ancestors went through so you have the right to have pride...


anyone know what this picture means?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima

everyone takes everything we have for granted now, everything our ancestors worked so hard for... even the right to not have any pride for what it means...

I remember this in that movie, can't think of the name, great film though and a poignant picture

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 01:13 PM





we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...




really most of our USA flags are made in china lol


and how many people if flying their usa flag and its starts to rain run out and get it I can say not many and if u like I can say that is very disrespectaful of our flag ...


it's about the symbol, what it represents... being made in china sucks balls, yes, but having pride for what it represents and what our ancestors went through so you have the right to have pride...


anyone know what this picture means?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima

everyone takes everything we have for granted now, everything our ancestors worked so hard for... even the right to not have any pride for what it means...

I remember this in that movie, can't think of the name, great film though and a poignant picture


sands of Iwo Jima?

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:10 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sun 03/15/15 02:12 PM
I understand what it means that's why I said
their are not many who run and take it down
when it rains and at one time was part of my job once...
so no some have no idea or care ...
and I still have no problem with what this soldier did...

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:18 PM
does it mean something different because its wet, or not at the top of a pole?

than maybe its symbolism isn't as significant as people let on?

,,,just my opinion

its a material thing,, it can symbolize many things to many people

whatever concepts they associate with the material thing aren't harmed when that material thing is worn, or lost, or otherwise gone,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:26 PM

does it mean something different because its wet, or not at the top of a pole?

than maybe its symbolism isn't as significant as people let on?

,,,just my opinion

its a material thing,, it can symbolize many things to many people

whatever concepts they associate with the material thing aren't harmed when that material thing is worn, or lost, or otherwise gone,,


maybe... but they are wrong and i'm right...:tongue: :wink:

metalwing's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:28 PM
Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:30 PM

I understand what it means that's why I said
their are not many who run and take it down
when it rains and at one time was part of my job once...
so no some have no idea or care ...
and I still have no problem with what this soldier did...


i don't either, cute baby, a soldier and a flag... shows patriotism and pride at it's best

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:31 PM


we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...


pride cant be manufactured and sold retail,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:32 PM



we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...


pride cant be manufactured and sold retail,,,


why not?

theseacoast's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:33 PM

I think it's a beautiful expression of love of country and family.

people can post pics of themselves at sporting events wrapped in the flag of their choice whether it's of a nation ora pparticular team.

yet someone complains at a tasteful expression of pride and love???



I agree - pride and joy - that is what radiates from this picture. It�s just beautiful.

panchovanilla's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:35 PM
Edited by panchovanilla on Sun 03/15/15 02:37 PM




we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...


pride cant be manufactured and sold retail,,,


why not?

Because that would make it false pride.
ie...self righteous arrogance.
Btw..I think it's a great pic.

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 02:43 PM





we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like i said, the pride has been taken away...


pride cant be manufactured and sold retail,,,


why not?

Because that would make it false pride.
ie...self righteous arrogance.
Btw..I think it's a great pic.


pride is manufactured in several ways, that's why it's considered a sin... you manufacture something, your proud of what you did, or the money you made off of it, or that you thought of the idea...

being proud of your nation and flag is not a bad thing, regardless that it's just a piece of cloth, it's more of a remembrance of the rich history of this or any nation that the flags symbolize and represent...

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 03/15/15 04:22 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sun 03/15/15 04:24 PM






we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like I said, the pride has been taken away...


pride cant be manufactured and sold retail,,,


why not?

Because that would make it false pride.
ie...self righteous arrogance.
Btw..I think it's a great pic.


pride is manufactured in several ways, that's why it's considered a sin... you manufacture something, your proud of what you did, or the money you made off of it, or that you thought of the idea...

being proud of your nation and flag is not a bad thing, regardless that it's just a piece of cloth, it's more of a remembrance of the rich history of this or any nation that the flags symbolize and represent...



now I am not saying this man abused the flag because I like what he did ... but in American our flag is abused and no one gets charges pressed against them for that ... unless they set it on fire or something ...

I believe some has lost that battle of our history with the flag except for those who understand and don't abuse it ...but then goes to say every one has a right to feel the differnaces ...

mightymoe's photo
Sun 03/15/15 04:28 PM







we do see it differently

when something is MASS PRODUCED and sold for retail, its replaceable

whatever it symbolizes doesn't change with what's done or not done to it


and what something symbolizes for one doesn't mandate that it symbolize the same for others




like I said, the pride has been taken away...


pride cant be manufactured and sold retail,,,


why not?

Because that would make it false pride.
ie...self righteous arrogance.
Btw..I think it's a great pic.


pride is manufactured in several ways, that's why it's considered a sin... you manufacture something, your proud of what you did, or the money you made off of it, or that you thought of the idea...

being proud of your nation and flag is not a bad thing, regardless that it's just a piece of cloth, it's more of a remembrance of the rich history of this or any nation that the flags symbolize and represent...



now I am not saying this man abused the flag because I like what he did ... but in American our flag is abused and no one gets charges pressed against them for that ... unless they set it on fire or something ...

I believe some has lost that battle of our history with the flag except for those who understand and don't abuse it ...but then goes to say every one has a right to feel the differnaces ...


you can do what you want with the US flag, it's not illegal... freedom of expression... one of the many things that was fought for and won...

dreamerana's photo
Sun 03/15/15 04:41 PM
the irony or whatever one would call it is that the soldier in this picture risks everything for God and country, for the rights and freedom of others, including the right to free speech evidenced in the condemnation of this pic.
those who criticize don't seem to recognize that

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/16/15 10:51 AM

the irony or whatever one would call it is that the soldier in this picture risks everything for God and country, for the rights and freedom of others, including the right to free speech evidenced in the condemnation of this pic.
those who criticize don't seem to recognize that


I Agree, in EVERY situation where someone chooses to do something to a flag other than fly it,,,,its ironic that others would condemn them when one of the alleged concepts it stands for,, is freedom of expression