Topic: happy Easter to everyone ....
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Fri 04/10/15 10:38 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Fri 04/10/15 10:39 AM

smile2 I Love Milesoftheusa's Reply ! :thumbsup:

How appropriate... He has given a quote of Jesus reiterating that his 'Brothers' and his 'Sisters' are those who actually followed him and not so-much his biological mother and brothers.

(What's Not To Understand ?)


Yes again, his mother Marry was there. And Marry's other children, James, Joses, Simon, and Judas are Jesus, his bothers and sisters.

His sister's names are never given that I know of.

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Fri 04/10/15 11:08 AM
Yes, and Jesus did emphasize they were only his biological mother and brothers, not to be confused with his Metaphorical Spiritual Brothers and Sisters in whom he was obviously in the immediate company of.

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Fri 04/10/15 11:43 AM

Yes, and Jesus did emphasize they were only his biological mother and brothers, not to be confused with his Metaphorical Spiritual Brothers and Sisters in whom he was obviously in the immediate company of.


Now, please continue on and show a verse where Jesus refers to us as his brothers and sisters, not his actual blood brothers and sisters, but all of us.

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Fri 04/10/15 03:52 PM
Well, apart from what Milesoftheusa has so masterfully presented, I've no cause for any follow-up.

Thank You, Milesoftheusa... Your scriptural quote was an absolute confirmation that Jesus referred to his disciples as 'Brothers & Sisters' in faith.

***************** Case Closed Cowboy GH ! ******************


Milesoftheusa and I obviously both agree, Jesus must have been in the habit of calling the disciples and Apostles of his day as his "Brothers".

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Fri 04/10/15 04:06 PM

Well, apart from what Milesoftheusa has so masterfully presented, I've no cause for any follow-up.

Thank You, Milesoftheusa... Your scriptural quote was an absolute confirmation that Jesus referred to his disciples as 'Brothers & Sisters' in faith.

***************** Case Closed Cowboy GH ! ******************


Milesoftheusa and I obviously both agree, Jesus must have been in the habit of calling the disciples and Apostles of his day as his "Brothers".




Milesoftheusa and I obviously both agree, Jesus must have been in the habit of calling the disciples and Apostles of his day as his "Brothers".


You claim he does it once, yet you state "Jesus must have been in the habit of calling the disciples... his brother" lol. Show another as I've shown his actual blood brothers and sisters were in the crowd being spoken to. So please show another just to be sure, preferably one with his actual blood blothers and sister being present.

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Fri 04/10/15 04:24 PM
slaphead Read the verse that Milesoftheusa has quoted again !

Jesus' mother and brothers (Biologically Speaking) are outside and inquiring about him (Jesus) who is on the inside. whoa

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Fri 04/10/15 04:28 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Fri 04/10/15 04:30 PM

Mark 3:32 - And a multitude was sitting about him; and they say unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren 'WITHOUT" seek for thee. And he answereth them, and saith, Who is my mother and my brethren? And looking round on them that sat round about him, he saith, Behold, my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.




I've moved Milesoftheusa's quote up from the Gospel Of Mark for all to read once more.



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Fri 04/10/15 04:49 PM

slaphead Read the verse that Milesoftheusa has quoted again !

Jesus' mother and brothers (Biologically Speaking) are outside and inquiring about him (Jesus) who is on the inside. whoa


Exactly, so you know the verse speaking Jesus' "brothers and sisters" was not specifically in reference to us, as his actual blood brothers and sisters were there.

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Fri 04/10/15 05:13 PM
NOPE ... !

They are "WITHOUT" as the verse says.

That is to say emphatically his mom and the other aforementioned brothers of Jesus were 'Outside-The-Circle' so as to speak.

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Fri 04/10/15 05:18 PM

NOPE ... !

They are "WITHOUT" as the verse says.

That is to say emphatically his mom and the other aforementioned brothers of Jesus were 'Outside-The-Circle' so as to speak.


And who says these specific comments are to his "In-The-Circle?"

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Fri 04/10/15 05:22 PM


NOPE ... !

They are "WITHOUT" as the verse says.

That is to say emphatically his mom and the other aforementioned brothers of Jesus were 'Outside-The-Circle' so as to speak.


And who says these specific comments are to his "In-The-Circle?"


Mark
31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.


Again is referring to his actual brothers, other children Marry bore. Try finding a verse that references to us as bothers and sisters to Jesus that does not include his actual blood brothers and sisters.

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Fri 04/10/15 05:36 PM
So, You're saying that just because we weren't living at the same time as these fellow Brother in faith back then... We're somehow exempt from being called Jesus' Brothers ? slaphead


Give me a break... ! And, everybody else reading this Forum ! whoa

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Fri 04/10/15 07:24 PM

So, You're saying that just because we weren't living at the same time as these fellow Brother in faith back then... We're somehow exempt from being called Jesus' Brothers ? slaphead


Give me a break... ! And, everybody else reading this Forum ! whoa


The verse does not say brother in faith. James, Joses, Simon, and Judas are his biological brothers, that were in the crowd in which whom he was speaking to in reference to your verse(s) that you have shown that had any connection to "Mother, Bothers, and sisters"


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Fri 04/10/15 07:54 PM
Well Cowboy GH, obviously You'll read and assume whatever You want to see in a verse from the Bible.

You even manage to vacillate on somebody's comment even when they're actually agreeing with You.

huh What Is With That ? noway

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Sat 04/11/15 10:32 AM

Well Cowboy GH, obviously You'll read and assume whatever You want to see in a verse from the Bible.

You even manage to vacillate on somebody's comment even when they're actually agreeing with You.

huh What Is With That ? noway


Please do find another verse Jesus refers to us as brothers, one where his actual blood brothers are not present.

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Sun 04/12/15 04:02 AM
For whosoeuer shall doe the will of my Father which is in heauen, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

"For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother."
- New American Standard Version (1995)

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- American Standard Version (1901)

For whoever does the pleasure of my Father in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Basic English Bible

for whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in [the] heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Darby Bible

For whoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Webster's Bible

To obey my Father who is in Heaven--that is to be my brother and my sister and my mother."
- Weymouth Bible

For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother."
- World English Bible

for who euer doith the wille of my fadir that is in heuenes, he is my brothir, and sistir, and modir.
- Wycliffe Bible

for whoever may do the will of my Father who is in the heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.'
- Youngs Literal Bible

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Sun 04/12/15 07:41 AM

For whosoeuer shall doe the will of my Father which is in heauen, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

"For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother."
- New American Standard Version (1995)

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- American Standard Version (1901)

For whoever does the pleasure of my Father in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Basic English Bible

for whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in [the] heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Darby Bible

For whoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Webster's Bible

To obey my Father who is in Heaven--that is to be my brother and my sister and my mother."
- Weymouth Bible

For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother."
- World English Bible

for who euer doith the wille of my fadir that is in heuenes, he is my brothir, and sistir, and modir.
- Wycliffe Bible

for whoever may do the will of my Father who is in the heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.'
- Youngs Literal Bible



Point of showing this verse over and over in the different translations? It has to be speaking metaphorically as the mention of "mother" is in there. This still doesn't show we are literally brother's with Jesus, spiritually or otherwise. And he is speaking in broad terms, I asked for a verse where he specifically refers to a specific person(s) as brothers and sisters outside his actual blood family.

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Sun 04/12/15 09:47 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sun 04/12/15 10:09 PM


For whosoeuer shall doe the will of my Father which is in heauen, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

"For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother."
- New American Standard Version (1995)

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- American Standard Version (1901)

For whoever does the pleasure of my Father in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Basic English Bible

for whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in [the] heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Darby Bible

For whoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
- Webster's Bible

To obey my Father who is in Heaven--that is to be my brother and my sister and my mother."
- Weymouth Bible

For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother."
- World English Bible

for who euer doith the wille of my fadir that is in heuenes, he is my brothir, and sistir, and modir.
- Wycliffe Bible

for whoever may do the will of my Father who is in the heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.'
- Youngs Literal Bible



Point of showing this verse over and over in the different translations? It has to be speaking metaphorically as the mention of "mother" is in there. This still doesn't show we are literally brother's with Jesus, spiritually or otherwise. And he is speaking in broad terms, I asked for a verse where he specifically refers to a specific person(s) as brothers and sisters outside his actual blood family.
are we adopted?


Ephesians 1:4-6New King James Version (NKJV)

4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

New King James Version (NKJV)

The problem is you believe Yahshua is Yahweh. He said all Blasphemy against him would be forgiven but not against the Holy spirit. You apparently believe he is the Holy spirit also.

Makes one wonder how he is the Only Begotton son of Yahweh and be the father also. He even said he was not good only his father is good.

as long as you believe he is not the son you can believe anything and make anything say whatever you want. So of course you do not believe you can be an adopted son of Yahweh. You can never be of the family of Yahweh. If you are an adopted son and Yahshua is the son of Yahweh you are family. Hense a brother of Yahshua because all brothers do Yahweh's will. This is a sign of his people. Not my will father but your will. As in the Masters prayer Your Will be Done on earth as it is in Heaven. Is his will in you?

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Sun 04/12/15 11:26 PM
Happy Easter, He is Risen! :) I know I'm a week late but I can still rejoice.

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Mon 04/13/15 02:04 AM
you Guys must be from the Eastern Orthodox,otherwise you are a week late!laugh