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Topic: Secret Deal Could Contain a Myriad of Gun Restrictions, Ammo
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Fri 05/08/15 11:07 PM
Will UN-style gun control be rammed down our throats?



“We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it.” — Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, encouraging rapid passage of ObamaCare in 2010

ACTION: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Orrin Hatch may soon give the President authority to write gun control restrictions into a “trade agreement.” So click here to contact your Senators –- whether they are liberal or conservative. Urge them to vote against the anti-gun “fast track” bill (S. 995).

Will UN-style gun control be rammed down our throats?

Gun import bans … Microstamping of firearms … Ammunition bans … The full implementation of the anti-gun UN Arms Trade Treaty … Illegal amnesty which locks in millions of new, anti-gun voters.

This anti-gun wish list could be part of the secret trade agreement that President Obama is getting ready to spring on the Congress.

This trade pact is called “fast track,” and what it means is that Obama can write any form of gun control he chooses into a trade agreement — import bans, amnesty, etc.

And this agreement DOESN’T need two-thirds vote in the Senate, as a treaty would. When completed, the agreement is merely subject to a majority vote in both Houses … it can’t be filibustered … it can’t be amended … and the GOP can’t refuse to consider it.

Top Secret TPP means you won’t know what’s in the bill

Reports have already surfaced that the TOP SECRET draft contains a whole chapter with a European Union-style provision allowing unlimited migration from Mexico into the United States. This would fulfill Obama’s dream — which he begun with Executive Amnesty — to import millions of new anti-gun (liberal) voters into the country.

Of course, we can’t quote for you any of the language in the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement because the document is TOP SECRET. Obama won’t reveal it, even to most congressmen, until Congress has given it its imprimatur by allowing it to pass under fast track procedures.

On Monday, Politico reported:

If you want to hear the details of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal the Obama administration is hoping to pass, you’ve got to be a member of Congress, and you’ve got to go to classified briefings and leave your staff and cellphone at the door.

If you’re a [congressional] member who wants to read the text, you’ve got to go to a room in the basement of the Capitol Visitor Center and be handed it one section at a time, watched over as you read, and forced to hand over any notes you make before leaving.

And no matter what, you can’t discuss the details of what you’ve read.

Truly, even more than with ObamaCare, this is a case of “You have to pass it to find out what’s in it.”

Some Republicans are being duped

But that’s not all: The fast track authority being granted to Obama and his successor for the next six years applies to whatever type of trade negotiation Obama chooses to enter into.

So, if he can write the UN Arms Trade Treaty into a trade agreement, then it can’t be filibustered or amended or prevented from consideration.

Tragically, many conservative Republicans have listened to business lobbyists — who are focused on the free trade issues without considering the impact on personal liberties — and have endorsed fast track. But one business leader recently took Republican lawmakers to the woodshed for this:

By now Congressional Republicans should know better. The Obama administration has stonewalled Congress on many issues, e.g., guns to Mexico and the IRS scandal, and this President has ignored the law and by-passed Congress on such matters as executive amnesty and the Bergdahl prisoner exchange. [The] alleged economic benefits of TPP — and they are minimal … — do not trump the Constitution, the law, and the proper use of fast track.

It is significant that, in Sen. Orrin Hatch’s 114-page bill specifying the goals of U.S. trade negotiations (S. 995), there is not a single word prohibiting Obama from using the agreements to implement gun control. And yet, that gun control will be just as binding as if Congress enacted it in a statute.

You can read an article written by GOA’s Legislative Counsel, which goes into this issue in much more detail.

You can also go here to read the full article written by the business leader (mentioned above) explaining why fast track is NOT really about free trade.

ACTION: Contact your Senators — no matter whether they are conservative or liberal. Urge them to vote against the anti-gun fast track bill (S. 995).

NOTE: Separate letters are used for Republicans and Democrats. But by using GOA’s pre-written letter in the Engage system, the correct letter will be automatically sent.



frickin obama and the rest if these shady @$$holes are really getting on my nerves. how is it that clinton gets impeached for cheating on his wife, but obama breaks laws on a daily basis and NOONE talks impeachment. this is getting ridiculous.

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Sat 05/09/15 03:51 AM
"It would give the President authority to write gun control"

Oh hell no!
What was Charlton Heston's quote?
" When you pry it out of my cold dead hands " smokin

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Sat 05/09/15 05:05 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 05/09/15 05:07 AM

"It would give the President authority to write gun control"

Oh hell no!
What was Charlton Heston's quote?
" When you pry it out of my cold dead hands " smokin

the Constitution does NOT authorize POTUS to write Laws!
any Treaty violating the Constitution would be illegal!

metalwing's photo
Sat 05/09/15 05:07 AM
I mean "really"? What else would you expect from Obama?

However, nothing overrides the US constitution. At least not for long.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 05/09/15 05:08 AM

I mean "really"? What else would you expect from Obama?

However, nothing overrides the US constitution. At least not for long.
:thumbsup:

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Sat 05/09/15 05:48 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 05/09/15 05:49 AM
Bill Clinton gave our National Parks and Monuments to the control of the UN in one of these secret deals and still today most people don't realize that we pay taxes for the upkeep and preservation while not having any control of them

You can always google it!

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Sat 05/09/15 07:26 AM
You folks all seem to have reading comprehension problems, as well as being either purposely ignorant about this entire subject area, or just intensely foolish.

This is an international TRADE AGREEMENT. It has zero to do with Gun Control in the United States.


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Sat 05/09/15 10:48 AM

You folks all seem to have reading comprehension problems, as well as being either purposely ignorant about this entire subject area, or just intensely foolish.

This is an international TRADE AGREEMENT. It has zero to do with Gun Control in the United States.



go do some reading. thats all i need to say

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Sat 05/09/15 03:14 PM


"It would give the President authority to write gun control"

Oh hell no!
What was Charlton Heston's quote?
" When you pry it out of my cold dead hands " smokin

the Constitution does NOT authorize POTUS to write Laws!
any Treaty violating the Constitution would be illegal!

has this lack of authority stopped him when it came to anything else he has done? my point exactly.

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Sat 05/09/15 03:27 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 05/09/15 03:28 PM

You folks all seem to have reading comprehension problems, as well as being either purposely ignorant about this entire subject area, or just intensely foolish.

This is an international TRADE AGREEMENT. It has zero to do with Gun Control in the United States.



The UN small arms treaty is wrapped in the blanket of the TPP!

Oblowme couldn't get it past congress any other way!

I would definitely recommend some reading, but since the details are secret, other than Oblowme's slip at a newscast/conference where he stated that SAT was an "intricate part" of the treaty, it seems our info and understanding is far better than yours!

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Sat 05/09/15 03:29 PM

I mean "really"? What else would you expect from Obama?

However, nothing overrides the US constitution. At least not for long.


It all depends on how far scotus wants to bend over
for the left.

Several things going on, are unconstitutional.
But, it takes a ruling from the supreme court
to declare it unconstitutional, and illegal.

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Sat 05/09/15 05:49 PM


I mean "really"? What else would you expect from Obama?

However, nothing overrides the US constitution. At least not for long.


It all depends on how far scotus wants to bend over
for the left.

Several things going on, are unconstitutional.
But, it takes a ruling from the supreme court
to declare it unconstitutional, and illegal.

SCOTUS is a fricking joke, theyre either bought and paid for or blackmailed into playing ball... just like the one who was against obamacare, till the very last minute when he had a sudden change of heart... *cough*blackmail*cough*


none of these @$$h0les can be trusted... government is corrupted from the very top all the way down to the bottom. the only viable solution is to remove them, by force if necessary...

thats the whole reason for the NSA snooping. theyre not looking for terrorists, theyre looking for americans trying to join together to fight this corrupt machine we call government. the moment americans try to band together, the NSA will know and will be kicking in your door with rifles in your face. thats why the snooping hasnt stopped terror attacks, its not meant to. they know if we assemble into large enough groups we will likely defeat them. but if they can stop us all before we have a chance to join together, we will never defeat them.

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Sat 05/09/15 06:08 PM
SCOTUS is a fricking joke, theyre either bought
and paid for or blackmailed into playing ball...
just like the one who was against obamacare,
till the very last minute when he had a sudden
change of heart... *cough*blackmail*cough*
none of these @$$h0les can be trusted...
government is corrupted from the very top all
the way down to the bottom. the only viable
solution is to remove them, by force if
necessary...
thats the whole reason for the NSA snooping.
theyre not looking for terrorists, theyre looking
for americans trying to join together to fight
this corrupt machine we call government. the
moment americans try to band together, the
NSA will know and will be kicking in your door
with rifles in your face. thats why the
snooping hasnt stopped terror attacks, its not
meant to. they know if we assemble into large
enough groups we will likely defeat them. but
if they can stop us all before we have a
chance to join together, we will never defeat
them.
One wld think, with all this "the mean 'ol gubment" and "theyre deceiving us" and "they watch our every move" stuff you post.....that youre no. 1 on their hit list when "they" come for "us".

"Ten four Eagle One, the Mater has been squashed...repeat...THE MATER.... HAS BEEN SQUASHED"



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Sat 05/09/15 06:25 PM

SCOTUS is a fricking joke, theyre either bought
and paid for or blackmailed into playing ball...
just like the one who was against obamacare,
till the very last minute when he had a sudden
change of heart... *cough*blackmail*cough*
none of these @$$h0les can be trusted...
government is corrupted from the very top all
the way down to the bottom. the only viable
solution is to remove them, by force if
necessary...
thats the whole reason for the NSA snooping.
theyre not looking for terrorists, theyre looking
for americans trying to join together to fight
this corrupt machine we call government. the
moment americans try to band together, the
NSA will know and will be kicking in your door
with rifles in your face. thats why the
snooping hasnt stopped terror attacks, its not
meant to. they know if we assemble into large
enough groups we will likely defeat them. but
if they can stop us all before we have a
chance to join together, we will never defeat
them.
One wld think, with all this "the mean 'ol gubment" and "theyre deceiving us" and "they watch our every move" stuff you post.....that youre no. 1 on their hit list when "they" come for "us".

"Ten four Eagle One, the Mater has been squashed...repeat...THE MATER.... HAS BEEN SQUASHED"




hahaha i know they probably know who i am. but on the flip side i really dont care if they do. theres people out there that are more of a priority than me, im just someone who b1tches and complains about their corruption.. theres other people out there who im sure they would want to silence before they ever came for me.

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Sat 05/09/15 06:30 PM



thats for you barry!!!----- please dont drone strike my house!

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Sat 05/09/15 06:41 PM



I mean "really"? What else would you expect from Obama?

However, nothing overrides the US constitution. At least not for long.


It all depends on how far scotus wants to bend over
for the left.

Several things going on, are unconstitutional.
But, it takes a ruling from the supreme court
to declare it unconstitutional, and illegal.

SCOTUS is a fricking joke, theyre either bought and paid for or blackmailed into playing ball... just like the one who was against obamacare, till the very last minute when he had a sudden change of heart... *cough*blackmail*cough*


none of these @$$h0les can be trusted... government is corrupted from the very top all the way down to the bottom. the only viable solution is to remove them, by force if necessary...

thats the whole reason for the NSA snooping. theyre not looking for terrorists, theyre looking for americans trying to join together to fight this corrupt machine we call government. the moment americans try to band together, the NSA will know and will be kicking in your door with rifles in your face. thats why the snooping hasnt stopped terror attacks, its not meant to. they know if we assemble into large enough groups we will likely defeat them. but if they can stop us all before we have a chance to join together, we will never defeat them.


none of these @$$h0les can be trusted... government is corrupted from the very top all the way down to the bottom. the only viable solution is to remove them, by force if necessary...


Wow...by force? like in a coup?.. like in attacking our elected officials?.. and you wonder if your not actually on some list?..

S**t, I would put you on the list myself.

Rock's photo
Sat 05/09/15 07:09 PM
Why is anyone upset now, with the NSA?

Guess some missed the news in the 1990s
about a system called carnivore,
the government (Clinton era) was
using to intercept ALL internet communications.

One of the "secret" facilities, is housed in Alabama.

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Sat 05/09/15 07:13 PM




I mean "really"? What else would you expect from Obama?

However, nothing overrides the US constitution. At least not for long.


It all depends on how far scotus wants to bend over
for the left.

Several things going on, are unconstitutional.
But, it takes a ruling from the supreme court
to declare it unconstitutional, and illegal.

SCOTUS is a fricking joke, theyre either bought and paid for or blackmailed into playing ball... just like the one who was against obamacare, till the very last minute when he had a sudden change of heart... *cough*blackmail*cough*


none of these @$$h0les can be trusted... government is corrupted from the very top all the way down to the bottom. the only viable solution is to remove them, by force if necessary...

thats the whole reason for the NSA snooping. theyre not looking for terrorists, theyre looking for americans trying to join together to fight this corrupt machine we call government. the moment americans try to band together, the NSA will know and will be kicking in your door with rifles in your face. thats why the snooping hasnt stopped terror attacks, its not meant to. they know if we assemble into large enough groups we will likely defeat them. but if they can stop us all before we have a chance to join together, we will never defeat them.


none of these @$$h0les can be trusted... government is corrupted from the very top all the way down to the bottom. the only viable solution is to remove them, by force if necessary...


Wow...by force? like in a coup?.. like in attacking our elected officials?.. and you wonder if your not actually on some list?..

S**t, I would put you on the list myself.

thats the thing, i never actually stated i planned to do something like that, i simply was stating a hypothetical. and as far as the gov being corrupt, everybody in america knows that by now... im not the only person who believes this and openly talks about it. joe rogan had a whole podcast on overthrowing the US government.

like i said im not saying i plan to do anything like that (coup), but if this corruptness continues on the part of the government, theres only so much american people are going to be willing to deal with. eventually enough people are going to get sick and tired of the lies coming out of the governments mouth, and i wouldnt want to be a government official when that happens.

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Sat 05/09/15 07:16 PM

Why is anyone upset now, with the NSA?

Guess some missed the news in the 1990s
about a system called carnivore,
the government (Clinton era) was
using to intercept ALL internet communications.

One of the "secret" facilities, is housed in Alabama.

yea so they can shut up whistleblowers, constitutionalists, and anyone else who tries to go against them. our country has been hijacked from the inside. the american way of life and american values are slowly going bye bye.

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Sat 05/09/15 07:24 PM
thats what all this jade helm 15 is about, its our government and military training and getting intel on american citizens. by the government own record theyre enemies are tea partiers, gun owners, constitutionalists. jade helm is training for when they do decide to implement martial law and gun confiscation...

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