Topic: Dealing With Misconceptions; Things the Bible Never Said Abo
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Mon 05/18/15 06:34 AM
Hello, christians who are passionate about God. And non christians too who get confused about bible account of creation and seeming contradictions from science account. God never wanted to burden us with much detailed stories of All that transpired in pre/post creation incidents. In his wisdom,he gave us the summary in Genesis knowing that a simple sincere faith,trust and believe are all it takes to be saved. But Because i have read interesting debates concerning this issue (creation) and i want to address some things most people,even christians find mind boggling. Errmm, i want to write about pre-adamic creation (life before Adam, yes there was) but let me deal with this first. Pardon any typo errors you observe while reading this. I'm using mobile phone,pls

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Mon 05/18/15 06:52 AM
1.THE BEGINING WAS 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1 "In the begining God created the heavens and the earth" I ve always talked about God being a self-existent and ageless being. He is the creator of living things, planets, universe etc. Now, this verse has always been misunderstood. Its just talking about the original creation of the universe billions of years ago. 2. THE EARTH WAS CREATED 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1-2 1."In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters". My God! Christians have been mocked with the 'earth is 6000 years old' thing and its embarrassing. People get these two verses mixed up. Periods of Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is talking about the period of restoration of earth and recreation of natural forms in it. A lot happened between these two periods which will be addressed in another thread.

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Mon 05/18/15 06:59 AM
3. LIGHT AND DARKNESS WERE CREATED IN DAY 1 AS SEEN IN GENESIS 1:5. Genesis 1:5, "God called the light "day" and the darkness he called "night". And there was evening and there was morning-- the first day" The functionalities of the sun and moon on earth were restored on day 1

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Mon 05/18/15 07:03 AM
4. THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS WERE CREATED ON DAY 4. No no no they werent. They were created in the begining before the existence of earth. God just regulated them in connection with the restored earth

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Mon 05/18/15 07:08 AM
5. ANIMALS, BIRDS MAN WERE FIRST CREATED ON DAY 5 AND SIX. Some were created during the pre adamic age but were destroyed by the first universal flood (Lucifer's flood) This would be addressed fully in a new thread. A quick bible reference 2 peter 3:5-7

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Mon 05/18/15 07:11 AM
6.VEGETATION CAME FORTH FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DAY 3. No no. Geremiah 4:23-26 doesnt agree with you. This proves that there was vegetation during the pre-adamic age

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Mon 05/18/15 07:25 AM
7. THE EARTH WAS CREATED 6000 YEARS AGO. No sir/ma,it was restored 6,000 years ago. A quick look at Genesis 1:1-2 "....and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters" What waters? And we all thought the earth was created in day 3! Seeeee .......after God destroyed everything on earth in the first universal flood, there was chaos and it was flooded. God then began its resttoration as His Spirit was hovering over the waters. And yes, satan lived among the pre-adamic men or during the age of the 'first earth' Look at Isaiah 14:12-14. The fall of lucifer happened during pre-adamic age not after the 'creation' (recreation) Some think this happened momeents before the ''talking snake'' caused the fall of man

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Mon 05/18/15 07:32 AM
8.THAT ADAM WAS THE FIRST MAN GOD CREATED. Adam was a recreation of man in God's image. Isaiah 14;12-14, Jeremiah 4:23-26 and 2peter 2:5-7 quoted above have already proven that 'men and nations' existed before Adam

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Mon 05/18/15 07:36 AM
9. THAT THE UNIVERSE, EARTH ARE A PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION. Nope, God created all of them Ephesians 3:9 Colossians 1:15-18

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Mon 05/18/15 07:42 AM
10. THAT MAN IS A PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION FROM LOWER LIFE FORMS,TO CAVE MEN. The bible says God created man perfect and intelligent. Genesis 1:27. Evolution denies the first cause. The theory starts with matter being in existence. The theory is that all forms of life derived from gradual modification from simpler forms to complex form. Genesis 1:21

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Mon 05/18/15 07:50 AM
A CHRISTIAN SHOULD NOT ACCEPT EVOLUTION BECAUSE 1. Evolution says man evolved from beasts, so our Lord Jesus was an evolved beast or a product of evolution? 2. The bible clearly stated that we (men) are created in God's image, ET clearly denies that. 3. ET also degrades God's image to mere beasts. 4.It nullifies the idea of the bible creation by God. 5.It denies miracles, the supernatural and the bodily resurrection of Christ....and I can go on and on

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Mon 05/18/15 11:03 AM
If you do not agree with my assertions, lets hear yours

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Mon 05/18/15 01:32 PM
Edited by uche9aa on Mon 05/18/15 01:34 PM
The deep things about God can only be revealed by His Spirit. The earthly minded CAN NOT understand them, its foolishness to them that perish. Spiritual matters are spiritually discerned

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Sun 05/31/15 12:46 PM

1.THE BEGINING WAS 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1 "In the begining God created the heavens and the earth" I ve always talked about God being a self-existent and ageless being. He is the creator of living things, planets, universe etc. Now, this verse has always been misunderstood. Its just talking about the original creation of the universe billions of years ago. 2. THE EARTH WAS CREATED 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1-2 1."In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters". My God! Christians have been mocked with the 'earth is 6000 years old' thing and its embarrassing. People get these two verses mixed up. Periods of Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is talking about the period of restoration of earth and recreation of natural forms in it. A lot happened between these two periods which will be addressed in another thread.


uche9aa:

As a fellow Christian, I must tell you that the scientific evidence does not support the belief by "Young Earth" believers, that the earth was created a mere 6,000 years ago. The reality is that the Judeo-Christian Bible does not explain how long the six "Creative days" lasted.


NeutralZone2


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Sun 05/31/15 01:03 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 05/31/15 01:05 PM


1.THE BEGINING WAS 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1 "In the begining God created the heavens and the earth" I ve always talked about God being a self-existent and ageless being. He is the creator of living things, planets, universe etc. Now, this verse has always been misunderstood. Its just talking about the original creation of the universe billions of years ago. 2. THE EARTH WAS CREATED 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1-2 1."In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters". My God! Christians have been mocked with the 'earth is 6000 years old' thing and its embarrassing. People get these two verses mixed up. Periods of Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is talking about the period of restoration of earth and recreation of natural forms in it. A lot happened between these two periods which will be addressed in another thread.


uche9aa:

As a fellow Christian, I must tell you that the scientific evidence does not support the belief by "Young Earth" believers, that the earth was created a mere 6,000 years ago. The reality is that the Judeo-Christian Bible does not explain how long the six "Creative days" lasted.


NeutralZone2


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... be swift about hearing, slow about speaking, slow about wrath...." (James 1:19-20)


And in the "days" in reference, no one knows if those days were just our 24 hours long either. As the world would have made a form of "change" when the flood happened and various other things.

So when we theorize the time framing with our calculations of today, one of the days then might have been 1 billion years in coparison to now. That's quite exaggerated, but hope it shows more of what I'm saying.

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Sun 05/31/15 01:08 PM
" Oh ye of little Faith "

Why does it bother you? Or anyone?
Why search for science in all things?
Why search outside yourself ?
Why justify a God that needs not?

" Let those who have ears hear "


:angel:
Shalom

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Sun 05/31/15 02:03 PM


1.THE BEGINING WAS 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1 "In the begining God created the heavens and the earth" I ve always talked about God being a self-existent and ageless being. He is the creator of living things, planets, universe etc. Now, this verse has always been misunderstood. Its just talking about the original creation of the universe billions of years ago. 2. THE EARTH WAS CREATED 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1-2 1."In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters". My God! Christians have been mocked with the 'earth is 6000 years old' thing and its embarrassing. People get these two verses mixed up. Periods of Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is talking about the period of restoration of earth and recreation of natural forms in it. A lot happened between these two periods which will be addressed in another thread.


uche9aa:

As a fellow Christian, I must tell you that the scientific evidence does not support the belief by "Young Earth" believers, that the earth was created a mere 6,000 years ago. The reality is that the Judeo-Christian Bible does not explain how long the six "Creative days" lasted.


NeutralZone2


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... be swift about hearing, slow about speaking, slow about wrath...." (James 1:19-20)
You didnt read my post very well. I was rather debunking the six thousand years theory. Pls read carefully before you comment

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Sun 05/31/15 05:22 PM
Edited by NeutralZone2 on Sun 05/31/15 05:22 PM
uche9aa said:
Alter2Ego said

1.THE BEGINING WAS 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1 "In the begining God created the heavens and the earth" I ve always talked about God being a self-existent and ageless being. He is the creator of living things, planets, universe etc. Now, this verse has always been misunderstood. Its just talking about the original creation of the universe billions of years ago. 2. THE EARTH WAS CREATED 6000 YEARS AGO. Genesis 1:1-2 1."In the begining God created the heavens and the earth.2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters". My God! Christians have been mocked with the 'earth is 6000 years old' thing and its embarrassing. People get these two verses mixed up. Periods of Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 is talking about the period of restoration of earth and recreation of natural forms in it. A lot happened between these two periods which will be addressed in another thread.


uche9aa:

As a fellow Christian, I must tell you that the scientific evidence does not support the belief by "Young Earth" believers, that the earth was created a mere 6,000 years ago. The reality is that the Judeo-Christian Bible does not explain how long the six "Creative days" lasted.


NeutralZone2

You didnt read my post very well. I was rather debunking the six thousand years theory. Pls read carefully before you comment


uche9aa:

You wrote several posts and addressed different things in each one. Perhaps you should have presented your most important argument in the opening post, then it would have been easier for me to follow the point you are attempting to make.

NeutralZone2


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... be swift about hearing, slow about speaking, slow about wrath...." (James 1:19-20)

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Mon 06/01/15 10:14 AM

A CHRISTIAN SHOULD NOT ACCEPT EVOLUTION BECAUSE 1. Evolution says man evolved from beasts, so our Lord Jesus was an evolved beast or a product of evolution? 2. The bible clearly stated that we (men) are created in God's image, ET clearly denies that. 3. ET also degrades God's image to mere beasts. 4.It nullifies the idea of the bible creation by God. 5.It denies miracles, the supernatural and the bodily resurrection of Christ....and I can go on and on


Evolution itself is not false, the theory of evolution is though. God created us to "adapt" to our surroundings/time and then after a certain perdiod of time it's looked at as "evolution".

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Mon 06/01/15 10:18 AM
@uche9aa

Before I make anymore comments on your thread here, I've seen you state "retored" multiple times throughout your post(s) in this thread. And would like to know where you get the idea that was "restored" retather then fresnly created and or what biblical/scriptual evidence you have of such. The world, heavens, and everything else was freshly created at the time of "creation"... where do you get the notion of a "restored" planet, ect?