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Topic: Memorial Day Weekend
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Thu 05/21/15 09:20 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Thu 05/21/15 09:21 AM
Depending on how you define the weekend, Chicago had either 38 or 49 shootings last weekend.

The higher number includes shootings on Friday afternoon and early Monday morning. But no matter how you define it, Memorial Day weekend is likely to add to the number of shootings and homicides.

Ain't no telling how to stop these black people from killing each other, said student Steven Chism.

If Chism sounds a little hardened, he's got every right to be.

Last Wednesday, someone he grew up with, 19-year-old Shamari Salter, was gunned down. And it wasn't the first tragedy to hit Salter's family.

Last year he lost his brother. And this year we're very surprised at losing him, Chism added.

Chicago police statistics show murders citywide are up 16 percent over the last year, with shootings up 22 percent.

Four years ago, Memorial Day weekend had four killings because stormy weather kept people inside. But in 2012 with temperatures in the 90s, there were ten homicides. The mayor blamed liquor stores for fueling the violence.

In 2013, there were six homicides.

And in 2014, again, six people were killed, although the shootings didn't begin until mid-day on Saturday.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/29108980/memorial-day-weekend-shootings-violence

Baltimore averages about 6 or 7 murders over the weekend and with the recent violence it could be a bloodbath.


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Thu 05/21/15 09:36 AM
To make lemonade out of lemons, those that make those "In memoriam" tshirts will have a business boost....

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Thu 05/21/15 09:47 AM
I understand funeral homes are doing quite well in these democratic controlled cities as well.

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Thu 05/21/15 10:28 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Thu 05/21/15 10:28 AM
49 people were shot last weekend..

That is just hard to fathom..

A 7yo old boy was shot the other day by a 16 yo while just walking home from school..

The misplaced priorities is what appalls me the most.


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Thu 05/21/15 10:40 AM
hmmm, correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt chicago have some of the harshest firearm laws in the country?

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Thu 05/21/15 11:28 AM

hmmm, correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt chicago have some of the harshest firearm laws in the country?


Why yes they do..


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Thu 05/21/15 11:37 AM


hmmm, correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt chicago have some of the harshest firearm laws in the country?


Why yes they do..



well ill be damned, i thought strict gun control meant less gun violence? slaphead

great job government!

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Thu 05/21/15 11:54 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Thu 05/21/15 11:56 AM
Don't think the criminals and thugs pay attention to gun laws. Gun control seems to be for the good people that have guns to hunt or protection.

The bad guys will get guns with or without gun control laws

I will observe Memorial Day as intended.

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Thu 05/21/15 11:56 AM



hmmm, correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt chicago have some of the harshest firearm laws in the country?


Why yes they do..



well ill be damned, i thought strict gun control meant less gun violence? slaphead

great job government!


It has more to do with feeling good about eroding the second amendment than actually producing results on the ground.

Some liberal in Beverly Hills isn't going to donate campaign money if you are talking about how you helped minorities stop killing each other. But if you campaign on what you did to take away crazy white religious peoples guns you'll get red carpet treatment.


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Thu 05/21/15 12:30 PM




hmmm, correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt chicago have some of the harshest firearm laws in the country?


Why yes they do..



well ill be damned, i thought strict gun control meant less gun violence? slaphead

great job government!


It has more to do with feeling good about eroding the second amendment than actually producing results on the ground.

Some liberal in Beverly Hills isn't going to donate campaign money if you are talking about how you helped minorities stop killing each other. But if you campaign on what you did to take away crazy white religious peoples guns you'll get red carpet treatment.



yupp i agree 100%, IMO ALL gun laws federal or state are unconstitutional. first off the 2nd amendment it is an inalienable right. inalienable - unable to be taken away or given up by the possessor. and at the end of the 2nd amendment it says "shall not be infringed" it doesnt say "can be infringed if convicted of a crime"

shall
SHal,SHəl/
verb
modal verb: shall

1.
(in the first person) expressing the future tense.
"this time next week I shall be in Scotland"
2.
expressing a strong assertion or intention.
"they shall succeed"

meaning no matter what for any reason 2A is not to be taken away or put limits upon.

even in the old days i've read somewhere, if you were found guilty of a murder you served about 15 years in jail. upon release you received a rifle, a 20 dollar piece of gold and a horse. that was to help you get a fresh start once out of prison.

In the 19th century when a prisoner was released he was given a horse, a gun and a $20 gold piece. http://www.oocities.org/three_strikes_legal/prison_reform_articles.htm




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Wed 05/27/15 09:42 AM
The Butchers Bill...

Violence surged in major U.S. cities over Memorial Day weekend, bringing new highs for homicides in Chicago and Baltimore after years of declining crime.

Nine murders and nearly 30 shootings over the weekend brought Baltimore's monthly homicide toll to its highest point in more than 15 years, taxing a city and police department already pushed to its limits after rioting last month.

Baltimore logged a record 35 homicides as of Tuesday, the most in a single month since 1999. This year, the city has had 108 homicides.

The Memorial Day weekend was also a bloody one in Chicago, where at least 12 people were killed and 44 were wounded in gun violence from Friday night to Tuesday morning. The rash of violence continues a trend of killings and shootings that began this year after the city recorded the fewest homicides in decades last year.

The weekend's wounded include Jacele Johnson, 4, shot in the head Friday evening as she sat in a car on the South Side with a 17-year-old cousin, who was shot in the chest. On the city's West Side, a 17-year-old boy was shot in the back and the leg.

About two hours earlier, a 19-year-old man was gunned down two blocks from Chicago Police Headquarters, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/26/baltimore-homicides-memorial-weekend/27963899/

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Wed 05/27/15 09:52 AM

The Butchers Bill...

Violence surged in major U.S. cities over Memorial Day weekend, bringing new highs for homicides in Chicago and Baltimore after years of declining crime.

Nine murders and nearly 30 shootings over the weekend brought Baltimore's monthly homicide toll to its highest point in more than 15 years, taxing a city and police department already pushed to its limits after rioting last month.

Baltimore logged a record 35 homicides as of Tuesday, the most in a single month since 1999. This year, the city has had 108 homicides.

The Memorial Day weekend was also a bloody one in Chicago, where at least 12 people were killed and 44 were wounded in gun violence from Friday night to Tuesday morning. The rash of violence continues a trend of killings and shootings that began this year after the city recorded the fewest homicides in decades last year.

The weekend's wounded include Jacele Johnson, 4, shot in the head Friday evening as she sat in a car on the South Side with a 17-year-old cousin, who was shot in the chest. On the city's West Side, a 17-year-old boy was shot in the back and the leg.

About two hours earlier, a 19-year-old man was gunned down two blocks from Chicago Police Headquarters, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/26/baltimore-homicides-memorial-weekend/27963899/
When are Al and Jesse starting the protests?

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Wed 05/27/15 11:30 AM
I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times

protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals


the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death


the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,,

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Wed 05/27/15 12:45 PM
protests are GENERALLY about trying to
change a system,, not individuals
If someone thinks there is not SYSTEMIC dysfuntion associated within certain demographics in this country....in that they have no problem continually killing each other and, at the same time, expecting others to change their situation......Im gonna take a guess and think those people GENERALLY have their head in the sand.

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Wed 05/27/15 03:51 PM

I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times

protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals


the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death


the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,,


Isn't it the justice system that is being protested?



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Wed 05/27/15 04:09 PM


I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times

protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals


the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death


the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,,


Isn't it the justice system that is being protested?



There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting.

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Wed 05/27/15 04:13 PM



I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times

protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals


the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death


the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,,


Isn't it the justice system that is being protested?



There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting.


I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system.

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Wed 05/27/15 04:20 PM

protests are GENERALLY about trying to
change a system,, not individuals
If someone thinks there is not SYSTEMIC dysfuntion associated within certain demographics in this country....in that they have no problem continually killing each other and, at the same time, expecting others to change their situation......Im gonna take a guess and think those people GENERALLY have their head in the sand.



you use the word 'systemic',,, I don't think you know what that word means,,lol



whites kill each other just as blacks do,, their is a JUSTICE system to handle that

the JUSTICE SYSTEM is a system,, so systemically there is no protest in how it handles prosecuting criminals

the SYSTEM of justice however, is having a problem holding POLICE ACCOUNTABLE,,

its like arguing, why do we expect doctors to take care of our health when we are so out of shape,,,lol

its the DOCTORS JOB<< its the HEALTHCARE SYSTEM,, and as a system people have to support its functioning and those people get to have EXPECATIONS of how that happens,,,:banana:

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Wed 05/27/15 04:21 PM


I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times

protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals


the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death


the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,,


Isn't it the justice system that is being protested?








YES

that's the point


what 'system' would murderers or criminals be running on the dime of others?





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Wed 05/27/15 04:22 PM



I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times

protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals


the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death


the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,,


Isn't it the justice system that is being protested?



There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting.


I totally agree

I hate when people give ammunition to the stereotypes used to quiet justifiable concerns and protests



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