Topic: 3rd Attempt For Shipment to the ISS - FAILS - BLOWS UP
2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Sun 06/28/15 10:45 AM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Sun 06/28/15 10:48 AM
Serious cause for concern; how are they going to get provisions up to the astronauts if we can't get the independent contractors rockets up there?

Now I'm really worried --- this isn't going as planned!

SpaceX launch ends in failure, rocket erupts

Associated Press / MARCIA DUNN 12 mins ago

An unmanned SpaceX rocket carrying supplies and a first-of-its-kind docking port to the International Space Station broke apart Sunday shortly after liftoff. It was a severe blow to NASA, still reeling from previous failed shipments.

The accident happened about 2 1/2 minutes into the flight from Cape Canaveral, Florida. A billowing white cloud emerged in the sky, growing bigger and bigger, then fiery plumes shot out of where the rocket was supposed to be, and pieces could be seen falling into the Atlantic. More than 5,200 pounds of space station cargo were on board, including the first docking port designed for future commercial crew capsules.

"We appear to have had a launch vehicle failure," announced NASA commentator George Diller. Data stopped flowing from the Falcon 9 rocket around 2 minutes and 19 seconds, he said. No astronauts were on board.

The rocket shattered while traveling at 2,900 mph, about 27 miles up. Everything appeared to go well in the flight until the rocket went supersonic.

SpaceX founder and chief executive Elon Musk later said an over pressurization occurred in the liquid-oxygen tank of the rocket's upper stage.

"That's all we can say with confidence right now," Musk said via Twitter. "Will have more to say following a thorough fault tree analysis."

Losing this shipment - which included replacements for items lost in two previous failed supply flights - was a huge setback for NASA in more than one way. The space agency is counting on private industry to transport cargo -�� and eventually astronauts - to the orbiting lab. The California-based SpaceX is one of the contenders.

This is the second failed station shipment in a row and the third in eight months.

In April, a Russian cargo ship spun out of control and burned up upon re-entry, along with all its precious contents. And last October, an Orbital Sciences Corp. supply ship was destroyed in a launch accident.

This Dragon had been carrying replacement food, clothes and science experiments for items lost in those two mishaps. The seven previous SpaceX supply runs, dating back to 2012, had gone exceedingly well.

The three space station residents were watching the launch live from orbit, including astronaut Scott Kelly.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/spacex-launch-ends-in-failure-rocket-erupts/ar-AAcft3M?ocid=ansnewsap11




germanchoclate1981's photo
Sun 06/28/15 12:18 PM
If they'd been successful before where are their old rockets delivery systems? Go back to those. Tell Musk I'm available for design consultation.

LTme's photo
Sun 06/28/15 02:09 PM
NPR reported it as the third ISS resupply attempt failure since October.

As a political conservative I strongly support the principle of privatization (SpaceX instead of NASA).

But as a pragmatist I have to admit;
this do not looks too good.

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Sun 06/28/15 02:34 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Sun 06/28/15 02:37 PM
LTme stated >>>
NPR reported it as the third ISS resupply attempt failure since October.

As a political conservative I strongly support the principle of privatization (SpaceX instead of NASA).

But as a pragmatist I have to admit; this do not looks too good.


Hmmmm, isn't that what my topic title stated and what the article stated too?

I'm concerned; RUSSIA seems set on using their old 'war horses'
to make those trips back and forth and our government seemed
just to think that that would be OKKY DOKY with our sub-contractors {sans NASA's lack of funding & back up mission rockets}---
to step up and be able to carry out the supply lines! slaphead

That's just not a quick trip around the corner to the closest
7-11; our astronauts are left up there 'just hanging around'
hoping that there's supplies on the way - ASAP scared

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Sun 06/28/15 05:12 PM

NASA vows to press on despite SpaceX rocket explosion
James Dean and Emre Kelly, Florida
Today 7:58 p.m. EDT June 28, 2015

CAPE CANAVERAL — While SpaceX searched the Atlantic Ocean for Falcon 9 rocket debris, NASA on Sunday pledged to press ahead with International Space Station operations despite the outpost's third lost resupply missions in eight months.

And space agency officials said Sunday's failure by a SpaceX rocket expected to fly astronauts within a few years, while disappointing, only underscored the wisdom of choosing two companies, not one, to launch crews.

"This is a reminder that spaceflight is an incredible challenge, but we learn from each success and each setback," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a statement. "Today's launch attempt will not deter us from our ambitious human spaceflight program."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/28/spacex-falcon-9-explodes-cape-canaveral/29423563/

And the choir sings a resounding 'HALLELUIAH' or a equally loud 'DUH'

So now that they've blown up: not 1 - not 2 - but 3 pay loads of costly technical equipment/supplies and other incidentals...and what is left of their meager budget; isn't that a 'GIVEN' that we have to?





LTme's photo
Sun 06/28/15 09:20 PM
iirc both Mir & Skylab were allowed to heat up.

Space adventures are dandy, etc.

- but -
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 29 Jun 2015 at 04:18:05 AM GMT is:
$ 1 8 , 1 5 9 , 5 3 2 , 3 1 4 , 2 7 0 . 4 3

The estimated population of the United States is 320,876,979
so each citizen's share of this debt is $56,593.44.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

If the grandkids wanna pay for space adventures; THEY can make that decision.
It's not appropriate for U.S. to make that decision for them.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/29/15 06:09 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Mon 06/29/15 06:15 AM


Bush dood it with the help of aliens! Oblowme should announce as much soon..... after he hears it on the CNN news bigsmile

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Tue 06/30/15 12:33 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Tue 06/30/15 12:33 PM
Hmmm, sustaining these losses and now I'm wondering; do those other experiments and supplies have an insurance rider attached so the other people placing items onto the shipment don't get 'BURNED'? Anyone know about that?

SpaceX Rocket Explosion:
Can The Commercial Space Industry Recover
From The Falcon 9 Rocket Failure?
By Amy Nordrum June 30 2015
The explosions underscore the risks inherent in space innovation and repeated failures could have spillover effects for the rapidly-growing commercial space industry. Overall, the estimated 800 companies in the commercial space sector are predicted to rake in $10 billion in private investment in 2015 alone. That's roughly the amount that has been poured into the top 100 private space companies over the past decade. In 2010, SpaceX was valued at $250 million but the company raised money at a valuation of $12 billion this year after Google announced a $900 million commitment.

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Sunday’s flight also carried 51 science experiments booked through NanoRacks by NASA’s National Design Challenge and the Student Spaceflight Experiments Program organized by the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. Six of those experiments had already been re-booked from the failed Antares flight in October. It costs $15,000 for a group of elementary students to send a basic experiment to the space station and $35,000 for high school or university students to send a slightly more complicated one. Most students throw fundraisers or apply for grants to pay to cover the costs.

http://www.ibtimes.com/spacex-rocket-explosion-can-commercial-space-industry-recover-falcon-9-rocket-failure-1990105

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/30/15 12:46 PM
obarry should have left NASA alone...

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Tue 06/30/15 12:52 PM

obarry should have left NASA alone...


offtopic yawn

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/30/15 12:55 PM
not really, it's because he shut down NASA this crap is happening... NASA was one of the main things that made this country great... I'm all for going along with multi national cooperation, but shutting NASA down was a big blunder...

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Tue 06/30/15 01:10 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Tue 06/30/15 01:12 PM

not really, it's because he shut down NASA this crap is happening... NASA was one of the main things that made this country great... I'm all for going along with multi national cooperation, but shutting NASA down was a big blunder...


Oh, yes...that single mans power of the MIGHTY PEN;
sure it's all his alone - he makes all those budget
cuts when he's got zero clue on what all of those agencies
need or can do without! That's what advisors and
the people within those individual agencies do to
earn their KEEP! LMAO

NASA has been burning through funding and using their
space shuttle work horse well beyond their effective
days; but it's called planning and putting ones
priority in order! But we've had this 'BUTT HEAD'
discussion on another thread and it ended up the exact
same way --- your redundant 'BLAME GAME' is
old - boring - and 'OFF TOPIC' :wink:

per time spent on the 'POTUS' job...our current
president has worked circles around these 2 other
nimrods that you seem to hold in such high esteem
and they were known LIARS and spending freaks!

But your delusional inability to discuss ANY
topic leaves me ROTFLMAO

mightymoe's photo
Tue 06/30/15 01:45 PM
well, thats why everyone has an opinion... since you like comparing bush so much, why don't you compare how many days they both spent on the golf course in lavish places like Hawaii, or compare how many times bush sent his family on vacation... bush had a working room at his ranch, same as whats in the white house, so all his "vactions" you liberals seem to be calling them was actually him working beyond what duty called for... to bad no one can say that about obarry, who's vacations consist of elitist golf courses, basketball courts and wine tastings with the 5 star hotels...

no photo
Tue 06/30/15 02:57 PM


not really, it's because he shut down NASA this crap is happening... NASA was one of the main things that made this country great... I'm all for going along with multi national cooperation, but shutting NASA down was a big blunder...


Oh, yes...that single mans power of the MIGHTY PEN;
sure it's all his alone - he makes all those budget
cuts when he's got zero clue on what all of those agencies
need or can do without! That's what advisors and
the people within those individual agencies do to
earn their KEEP! LMAO

NASA has been burning through funding and using their
space shuttle work horse well beyond their effective
days; but it's called planning and putting ones
priority in order! But we've had this 'BUTT HEAD'
discussion on another thread and it ended up the exact
same way --- your redundant 'BLAME GAME' is
old - boring - and 'OFF TOPIC' :wink:

per time spent on the 'POTUS' job...our current
president has worked circles around these 2 other
nimrods that you seem to hold in such high esteem
and they were known LIARS and spending freaks!

But your delusional inability to discuss ANY
topic leaves me ROTFLMAO



offtopic tongue2

no photo
Tue 06/30/15 02:59 PM
Not to worry. we have the capability to get what is needed to the ISS

2OLD2MESSAROUND's photo
Tue 06/30/15 04:13 PM
alleoops stated >>>
Not to worry. we have the capability to get what is needed to the ISS


LOL...before or after they've ran out of 'TOILET PAPER & Personnel Wipes'; ya those essential items that were on this last supply load!

I can see this conversation up there >>>
"Here's my last paper tissue - everyone gets a small square; make it last" shocked