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Jesusmyall's photo
Wed 07/08/15 12:03 PM



Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?

Well if it is I'm doomed, with a capital D ohwell


Joe, you are not doomed.
Pay no attention to the false claim that the Bible forbids it, because the Bible says nothing about it.



Dear Joe,
Hello from me. I advise that you check up the separate thread on "What does the Bible say about masturbation?"

Just like the Bible may not use the word, "Trinity", and yet we do know that the word refers to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit; So in the same sense, even though the Bible may not use the word "masturbation", we do know that the Bible very clearly condemns Lust. Masturbation is lust. Please cry out to God to deliver you from the practice. God help you and bless you in JESUS name, as you sincerely seek God to take this practice out your life.

Jesusmyall's photo
Wed 07/08/15 12:07 PM




Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?

Well if it is I'm doomed, with a capital D ohwell


Joe, you are not doomed.
Pay no attention to the false claim that the Bible forbids it, because the Bible says nothing about it.



Dear Joe,
Hello from me. I advise that you check up the separate thread on "What does the Bible say about masturbation?"

Just like the Bible may not use the word, "Trinity", and yet we do know that the word refers to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit; So in the same sense, even though the Bible may not use the word "masturbation", we do know that the Bible very clearly condemns Lust. Masturbation is lust. Please cry out to God to deliver you from the practice. God help you and bless you in JESUS name, as you sincerely seek God to take this practice out your life.



Sorry, the thread is "What is Bible position on masturbation?"

Rivergirl248's photo
Wed 07/22/15 05:46 AM
Edited by Rivergirl248 on Wed 07/22/15 06:09 AM


The Holy Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10 saying about "spilling your seed" on the ground.


Onan's sin wasn't masturbation. His sin was his practice of birth control in violation of Levirate marriage laws. Onan had sexual intercourse with his sister-in-law Tamar, but he pulled out of her just before he ejaculated.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was thinking

Jesusmyall's photo
Wed 07/22/15 05:59 AM



The Holy Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10 saying about "spilling your seed" on the ground.


Onan's sin wasn't masturbation. His sin was his practice of birth control in violation of Levirate marriage laws. Onan had sexual intercourse with his sister-in-law Tamar, but he pulled out of her just before he ejaculated.


As I said earlier, the Bible is silent on the subject of masturbation, but that fact doesn't stop some people from reading into the Bible things that aren't there.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was thinking



I decided to check up the meaning of masturbation/what it means to masturbate. Below is what I found:
1. "stimulate one's genitals with one's hand for sexual pleasure.

2. "stimulate the genitals of (someone) to give them sexual pleasure.

3. "Masturbation is when people touch their own bodies for sexual pleasure".

4. "The touching of one's own body, especially the genitals, for sexual pleasure"

I would like to ask the question, what may have happened in a person's mind and thoughts and feelings before getting into masturbation?

Masturbation is lust. The bible calls lust a sin.

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Wed 07/22/15 05:59 AM


God commands to FLEE from sexual immorality!
Why?
Because sexual immoral christians do NOT inherit the Kingdom of God (last chapters of Revelation).

How to stop being a sexual immoral person? We have to repent, Get washed of our sexual immorality through repentance/ turing FROM this sin, confessing this sin to God in a prayer, and ABANDON this sin and lovers.


If we will NOT abandon lovers/sexual immorality to be HOLY sons of God then we will live in sins and die in sins and God will abandon us.

Any sexual immorality is a deadly sin if we will not stop practising it.

I fink all sin re equal,no deadly sin or safer sin



ALL sins are equal before God
* Except one.. unforgivable sin *
:thumbsup:

But some sins, are described in The Hold Bible as Abominations.

Jesusmyall's photo
Wed 07/22/15 06:04 AM



The Holy Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10 saying about "spilling your seed" on the ground.


Onan's sin wasn't masturbation. His sin was his practice of birth control in violation of Levirate marriage laws. Onan had sexual intercourse with his sister-in-law Tamar, but he pulled out of her just before he ejaculated.


As I said earlier, the Bible is silent on the subject of masturbation, but that fact doesn't stop some people from reading into the Bible things that aren't there.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was thinking



1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 (below):
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;

1Corrinthians 7:9, which I reproduce below:
"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion".

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Wed 07/22/15 06:05 AM

That is why the Holy Scripture forbids us even to GREET a sexual immoral person from churches. We should expel them from the community to show them that they should repent and abandon their sins an RETURN to God that He would return to them.


Our God is a God of love and forgiveness. There are more effective ways of leading a sinner to repent than expulsion and isolation from their church family. Odds are that they will already feel separate and guilty. Help them understand, pray for and over them and trust in God to show them the way out.

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Wed 07/22/15 06:06 AM

Punishment for sin is DEATH no mater if you are a christian practicing sexual immorality in Christianity or a muslim in Islam.


I will really appreciate it, if you STOP bringing the Muslim religion & the Nation of Islam ( not in Islam... it is not a place), into EVERY Christian discussion! Put that on Muslim forum or General.. it is offensive.

Jesusmyall's photo
Wed 07/22/15 06:17 AM


That is why the Holy Scripture forbids us even to GREET a sexual immoral person from churches. We should expel them from the community to show them that they should repent and abandon their sins an RETURN to God that He would return to them.


Our God is a God of love and forgiveness. There are more effective ways of leading a sinner to repent than expulsion and isolation from their church family. Odds are that they will already feel separate and guilty. Help them understand, pray for and over them and trust in God to show them the way out.


Revelation 2:
18 "And to the angel of the church in Thyati'ra write: 'The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze.

19 " 'know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. 20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jez'ebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings; 23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.

24 But to the rest of you in Thyati'ra, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay upon you any other burden; 25 only hold fast what you have, until I come. 26 He who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, I will give him power over the nations, 27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received power from my Father; 28 and I will give him the morning star. 29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'















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Wed 07/22/15 06:19 AM


That is why the Holy Scripture forbids us even to GREET a sexual immoral person from churches. We should expel them from the community to show them that they should repent and abandon their sins an RETURN to God that He would return to them.


Our God is a God of love and forgiveness. There are more effective ways of leading a sinner to repent than expulsion and isolation from their church family. Odds are that they will already feel separate and guilty. Help them understand, pray for and over them and trust in God to show them the way out.




Revelation 2:
18 "And to the angel of the church in Thyati'ra write: 'The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze.

19 " 'know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. 20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jez'ebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings; 23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.

24 But to the rest of you in Thyati'ra, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay upon you any other burden; 25 only hold fast what you have, until I come. 26 He who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, I will give him power over the nations, 27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received power from my Father; 28 and I will give him the morning star. 29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.'

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Thu 07/23/15 08:53 AM
That was Jesus talking to Jews living under the law. As soon as you accept the fact that Christ died for you and cleansed you of all your sins the better off you will be. What sins do "all" not include.

If I were God I would have put a lot of buts in the message of Jesus. I have heard a lot of Buts from the pulpit and from law abiding (so they say) christians. We try to put God in the box built by Satan where we try to live. If God is not in the box, why do we try finding Him in there. Read the NT, not the Gospels since they are still under the law. Start in Romans and try and find what sins we haven't been forgiven for. While you're there look for what is said about tithing. :hint--nothing.

This is not a license to sin. If we accept the fact that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins and then start trying to emulate Him we will find what joy is. Not happiness but joy. I will face trials and hardship in this life but (there that word is again) when I breath my last and stand before the Judge an He asks me, "Why should I let you in My presence?" I will remain mute and my brother, Jesus, will answer, "Pop this is one of mine." Sentence has already been carried out and I am free.

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Thu 07/23/15 09:28 AM
...hmmm god is understanding..hmmm..u know what is right is what is wrong(*^____^*)”

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Thu 07/23/15 10:22 AM

That was Jesus talking to Jews living under the law. As soon as you accept the fact that Christ died for you and cleansed you of all your sins the better off you will be. What sins do "all" not include.

If I were God I would have put a lot of buts in the message of Jesus. I have heard a lot of Buts from the pulpit and from law abiding (so they say) christians. We try to put God in the box built by Satan where we try to live. If God is not in the box, why do we try finding Him in there. Read the NT, not the Gospels since they are still under the law. Start in Romans and try and find what sins we haven't been forgiven for. While you're there look for what is said about tithing. :hint--nothing.

This is not a license to sin. If we accept the fact that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins and then start trying to emulate Him we will find what joy is. Not happiness but joy. I will face trials and hardship in this life but (there that word is again) when I breath my last and stand before the Judge an He asks me, "Why should I let you in My presence?" I will remain mute and my brother, Jesus, will answer, "Pop this is one of mine." Sentence has already been carried out and I am free.


It's not specifically accepting Jesus died for your sins, Jesus wasn't a "sacrifice" as when he was crucified, he was putting a new covenant into effect where sacrifice doesn't cleanse you of sins, God never was happy with the sacrifices in the first place.

Isaiah 1:11

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.


We are forgiven when the following happens -

Acts 3:19
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

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Thu 07/23/15 10:26 AM


Punishment for sin is DEATH no mater if you are a christian practicing sexual immorality in Christianity or a muslim in Islam.


I will really appreciate it, if you STOP bringing the Muslim religion & the Nation of Islam ( not in Islam... it is not a place), into EVERY Christian discussion! Put that on Muslim forum or General.. it is offensive.


That's not specifically secluded to the Muslim faith.

Romans 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Just because Jesus sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, doesn't give people a green card to just go and sin like "ah, no problem I'm forgiven". No, forgiveness comes when one repents.

Acts 2:38

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Jesusmyall's photo
Thu 07/23/15 12:24 PM

That was Jesus talking to Jews living under the law. As soon as you accept the fact that Christ died for you and cleansed you of all your sins the better off you will be. What sins do "all" not include.

If I were God I would have put a lot of buts in the message of Jesus. I have heard a lot of Buts from the pulpit and from law abiding (so they say) christians. We try to put God in the box built by Satan where we try to live. If God is not in the box, why do we try finding Him in there. Read the NT, not the Gospels since they are still under the law. Start in Romans and try and find what sins we haven't been forgiven for. While you're there look for what is said about tithing. :hint--nothing.

This is not a license to sin. If we accept the fact that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins and then start trying to emulate Him we will find what joy is. Not happiness but joy. I will face trials and hardship in this life but (there that word is again) when I breath my last and stand before the Judge an He asks me, "Why should I let you in My presence?" I will remain mute and my brother, Jesus, will answer, "Pop this is one of mine." Sentence has already been carried out and I am free.


Revelation 20:12:
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.


Hebrews 10:26 - 31:
26For if we choose to go on sinning after we have learned the full truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27but only a terrifying prospect of judgment and a raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who violates the Law of Moses dies without mercy "on the testimony of two or three witnesses". 29How much more severe a punishment do you think that person deserves who tramples on God's Son, treats as common the blood of the covenant by which it was sanctified, and insults the Spirit of grace? 30For we know the one who said, "Vengeance belongs to me; I will pay them back", and again, "The Lord will judge his people". 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God!

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Tue 07/28/15 03:59 PM




Hello fellow Christians. is masturbation a sin?

Well if it is I'm doomed, with a capital D ohwell


Joe, you are not doomed.
Pay no attention to the false claim that the Bible forbids it, because the Bible says nothing about it.



Dear Joe,
Hello from me. I advise that you check up the separate thread on "What does the Bible say about masturbation?"

Just like the Bible may not use the word, "Trinity", and yet we do know that the word refers to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit; So in the same sense, even though the Bible may not use the word "masturbation", we do know that the Bible very clearly condemns Lust. Masturbation is lust. Please cry out to God to deliver you from the practice. God help you and bless you in JESUS name, as you sincerely seek God to take this practice out your life.



Amen... flowerforyou

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