Topic: The Current U.S. Presidential Race
Dodo_David's photo
Fri 07/03/15 06:06 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Fri 07/03/15 06:08 PM
Aristotle said that Man by nature is a political animal. When he said animal, he wasn't referring to the kind of animal that one might find in a petting zoo. Political animals are more like the carnivores that one might encounter during an African safari. When dealing with one, it is a good idea to be armed with an elephant gun and plenty of ammunition.

Speaking of elephants, some folks are describing the current GOP presidential field as a clown car full of clowns. That description doesn't work, because there are too many GOP contenders for even a clown car. A better description would be that the GOP presidential field is a deck of cards containing a couple of jokers, with Donald Trump being one of the jokers.

The Democratic presidential field is having its own growth spurts. To paraphrase a line from the movie The Princess Diaries, Hillary shouldn't get herself measured for a tiara just yet. If she doesn't get trapped in the Webb of one of her primary opponents, then she could easily get trapped in a web that she wove herself.

Hillary has become the Democrat version of Romney in 2012, in that Democrats might vote for her in the primaries simply because they don'��t like any of the alternatives. One such alternative, Bernie Sanders, has surprised some political observers by raising a significantly-large amount of cash is a relatively short time. Sanders might not become his party's nominee, but with the cash that he is raising, a weekend at Bernie'��s ought to be exciting.

Anyway, it is way too early to place bets on this presidential horse race. With any luck, maybe some of the entries will be put out to pasture. Trump already has a standing reservation waiting for him at the glue factory.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Fri 07/03/15 06:26 PM
Too early even to be completely sure that we'll witness the same annoying dynamics as we have for the last twenty years (though so far, it looks the same).

That is, the Democrats will have only a few contenders, and one of the lesser challengers will make surprise progress.

The Republicans will all pretend to be wild-eyed radicals for at least the first two thirds of the process, in order to appeal to their perception of the Tea Party, then whoever takes the lead will gradually try to pretend to be developing a sense of balance and sanity.

Unless it's Trump, in which case all bets are off.

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Fri 07/03/15 06:41 PM
Bernie! Bernie!smile2

LTme's photo
Fri 07/03/15 07:20 PM
It's disappointing, frustrating, and annoying (but not surprising) how content-free the race is so far.
Christie blustered about he's the kind of guy America needs right now. I don't consider that a policy position, in the sense germane to the venue.

Trump is the only one I know of that's riled anyone, but that's due more to fruitless insult than controversial political policy.
If he wants to discuss immigration reform, that's fine.
But calling immigrants rapists hardly seems presidential to me.

Neither I nor Karl Rove take Trump seriously.

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Fri 07/03/15 07:30 PM
That is, the Democrats will have only a few
contenders, and one of the lesser challengers
will make surprise progress.


























Lpdon's photo
Fri 07/03/15 10:14 PM

Too early even to be completely sure that we'll witness the same annoying dynamics as we have for the last twenty years (though so far, it looks the same).

That is, the Democrats will have only a few contenders, and one of the lesser challengers will make surprise progress.

The Republicans will all pretend to be wild-eyed radicals for at least the first two thirds of the process, in order to appeal to their perception of the Tea Party, then whoever takes the lead will gradually try to pretend to be developing a sense of balance and sanity.

Unless it's Trump, in which case all bets are off.


Your right. Donald Trump doesn't waver back and forth and stands his ground on the issues and goes on the offensive not the defensive like all of the other Republican candidates do. He is one of the only true Conservative Republicans in the race.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/03/15 10:21 PM
lol,,,to be fecetious

there have been alot of 'unwavering' men in history, but I wouldnt want them as president either





Lpdon's photo
Fri 07/03/15 10:23 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 07/03/15 10:27 PM

Aristotle said that Man by nature is a political animal. When he said animal, he wasn't referring to the kind of animal that one might find in a petting zoo. Political animals are more like the carnivores that one might encounter during an African safari. When dealing with one, it is a good idea to be armed with an elephant gun and plenty of ammunition.

Speaking of elephants, some folks are describing the current GOP presidential field as a clown car full of clowns. That description doesn't work, because there are too many GOP contenders for even a clown car. A better description would be that the GOP presidential field is a deck of cards containing a couple of jokers, with Donald Trump being one of the jokers.

The Democratic presidential field is having its own growth spurts. To paraphrase a line from the movie The Princess Diaries, Hillary shouldn't get herself measured for a tiara just yet. If she doesn't get trapped in the Webb of one of her primary opponents, then she could easily get trapped in a web that she wove herself.

Hillary has become the Democrat version of Romney in 2012, in that Democrats might vote for her in the primaries simply because they don'��t like any of the alternatives. One such alternative, Bernie Sanders, has surprised some political observers by raising a significantly-large amount of cash is a relatively short time. Sanders might not become his party's nominee, but with the cash that he is raising, a weekend at Bernie'��s ought to be exciting.

Anyway, it is way too early to place bets on this presidential horse race. With any luck, maybe some of the entries will be put out to pasture. Trump already has a standing reservation waiting for him at the glue factory.



Jim Webb could pose a problem for Hillary. If Sexual Assault Sanders is gaining ground, imagine how a decorated war hero like Webb would be a game changer. The guy was awarded the Navy Cross, Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two purple hearts among many other awards and decorations. Hell, I would MUCH rather have Webb then Hillary as the Democrat's nominee. My biggest reservation is he is to far to the left on some issues, even national security, he is a hot head and shows no respect, even to the sitting President of the United States.

Even though there is no way a Democrat will win the race at all, unless Rand Paul some how got the Republican nomination which wont ever happen.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 07/03/15 10:24 PM

lol,,,to be fecetious

there have been alot of 'unwavering' men in history, but I wouldnt want them as president either







Really? Comparing Donald Trump to Hitler now? Shows how desperate the Democrats are.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/03/15 10:31 PM


lol,,,to be fecetious

there have been alot of 'unwavering' men in history, but I wouldnt want them as president either







Really? Comparing Donald Trump to Hitler now? Shows how desperate the Democrats are.


aww,, just taking a page from obama haters,,,, dont be a poor sport,,,,


laugh laugh laugh laugh


being 'unwavering' isnt a quality one votes on unless the 'unwavering' stances are in line with the progress of the country,,,


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Sat 07/04/15 07:30 AM

That is, the Democrats will have only a few
contenders, and one of the lesser challengers
will make surprise progress.








laugh

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Sat 07/04/15 08:02 AM
OBAMA - in White Face,been hearing this compassion since 2009. I still love it. Especially the applicable quotes.
But I don't think he has the testosterone for facial hair, like Hitler.






IgorFrankensteen's photo
Sat 07/04/15 12:12 PM


Too early even to be completely sure that we'll witness the same annoying dynamics as we have for the last twenty years (though so far, it looks the same).

That is, the Democrats will have only a few contenders, and one of the lesser challengers will make surprise progress.

The Republicans will all pretend to be wild-eyed radicals for at least the first two thirds of the process, in order to appeal to their perception of the Tea Party, then whoever takes the lead will gradually try to pretend to be developing a sense of balance and sanity.

Unless it's Trump, in which case all bets are off.


Your right. Donald Trump doesn't waver back and forth and stands his ground on the issues and goes on the offensive not the defensive like all of the other Republican candidates do. He is one of the only true Conservative Republicans in the race.


Good luck with that fantasy. Trump has so far, shown that he enjoys the attention he gets from insulting other people, and generally yanking chains for effect. But he proposes no actual solutions, and relies entirely on bombast and blather.

If what you want is a "leader" who bases everything on how snooty and clever he can be, Trump's your guy.

But if you want someone to actually LEAD the country, you'll need to look elsewhere.

This is the real problem with the modern fixation on negative campaigning. It's not that it's "insulting," and "hurts peoples' feelings," it's that it has nothing to do with addressing solving problems. Just getting people who enjoy hearing insults flung like monkey dung, to vote for more dung.

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Thu 07/09/15 02:30 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/polls-donald-trump-in-first-place-2015-7/

banana The Donald is now # 1

Today, Donald Trump has 15% of the vote of registered Republicans.
(Bush 11%), Economist/You Gov. poll

Today, Donald Trump has 16% of the vote of Public Policy Poll survey,(Bush 12%).

Today, Donald Trump in North Carolina is 53% to 32%.

The Director of PPP says, "Donald Trump is on Fire With 66% Of Very Conservative Republicans seeing him as favorable. Only 24% see him as negative. "
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The UK poll had him # 1, out of the 14 Republican Candidates, FOUR days ago, with 13.6%

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/republicans/11718563/Republicans-cast-into-turmoil-as-Donald-Trump-rides-the-populist-surge.html/