Governors in six states (at least) – Florida, Indiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and Texas – ordered their Guardsmen to be armed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/20/states-arm-national-guard-members-in-wake-chattanooga-tragedy/

Governors in SEVEN states (at least)

Florida
Indiana
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Louisiana
Texas
Wisconsin


Have ordered their Guardsmen to be armed

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/20/states-arm-national-guard-members-in-wake-chattanooga-tragedy/

http://www.wsmv.com/story/29727773/service-members-with-permits-can-carry-handguns-at-military-sites/

Florida
Indiana
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Louisiana
Texas
Wisconsin
Tennessee

Only a liberal in control could have ever thought to make a military base a gun free zone

they(liberals) can't be that stupid... it must be part of their agenda...


there is even muslims harassing the families of American soldiers now, and the libs still show their stupidity...

I wonder how much of this is just political posturing.


A quick google search comes up with the argument that the first Bush made military bases "gun free zones."
Bush I did it, Clinton enacted it.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf
The directive is from February 1992.
Clinton was elected in November of 1992, and became president in 1993.
I don't believe Bush I was a liberal.

And it's not a blanket ban on firearms so much as restricting and controlling who uses them. Government looooooves control.

And personally, I would prefer military bases be "gun free zones."
Having a standing military, and especially national guardsmen, always armed pretty much makes it a militia.

If we have a perpetually armed army/militia, then that just helps erode any reason for other private citizens, who choose not to sign up to be part of the militia, to bear arms.

What's the 2nd amenmdment?
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I have no desire to help out any opponents to the 2nd amendment, even indirectly.


The military has specific rules for war, of when and where and how they can be used.

If they aren't at war, directly participating in war, they're little more than private citizens.
They should not be armed with weapons. Military base, high school recruitment drives, whatever.

That's what the police are for. I sure as hell don't want armed military personnel to all of a sudden seem "attractive" as support for law enforcement.
"Oh no, more school shootings..welllllll, we have all these armed military personnel...let's just assign some to the schools. It's for the kids! Wellllll, we have all these armed military personnel...let's just start using them to serve warrants and support in law enforcement, providing stop and frisk and random stop and searches."

Allowing/not restricting personal weapons, maybe, but "ordered to be armed?"
No thanks.
It just steepens a slippery slope, IMO.

And at best it sends the message that the military shouldn't trust the communities they are a part of and needs to defend itself against them, separating it further.

I wish our Governor here would do that.

i kinda like our governor now, since perry left... he even has the Texas national guard watching the jade helm guys...

Again Nation Guard Training Centers are not on military bases or posts. Neither are recruiting offices. National guardsmen that are even issued weapons do their weapons training and qualifications do so ON military bases and posts because NGTC's do NOT have firing ranges. They are often contained to one or two buildings and a very small motor pool. 1 because they are only there one weekend out of the month and one month a year unless deployed. They call them weekend warriors because they do NOT serve full-time active duty. 2 Recruiters are active duty soldiers whose mission is entirely off post some are required to qualify with their weapon annually some are not.
The reason these places are gun free zones is not for the military, it's for the civilians who are not allowed to bring weapons to these places because civilians and military often bring their families there and encourage recruits to do the same. Police stations have the same policy as do courthouses libraries parks banks.... Homeless shelters most hospitals... Schools and college campuses. Criminals and cowardly zealots don't care which is why they have earned those titles.

Still need a C and C permit which most enlisted do not have. Most posts and bases won't allow if the soldier live in the barracks.

Imagining that the people you already don't like are to blame for everything wrong is worse than pitiful, it solves nothing. So slap your head harder, and maybe get it to stop assuming, and start learning instead.

One of the biggest reasons why many military places are not already armed, is entirely due to the MILITARY deciding to do so.

And why? Money.

Current regulations WITHIN THE MILITARY require that all places where arms are used, must have a fully qualified armory.

In order to arm everyone, a LOT of additional funds will be required, and so far, no political party wants to even PAY our people in the military a decent wage.

And that most especially includes the ones who put on a big show of "thanking" them all the time.

When I was in the service you were issued a weapon. At that time it was an M14 or a 45 cal side arm depending on your MOS, and Supply would issue ammo. Extra ammo had to be authorized or "checked out" if you were going to the range or a "live fire" exercise.

I got my first M16 issued in Nam and being a "radio humper" I had the option of a Remington shotgun as well as my 45. Fletchet rounds in a shotgun can do a lot of damage close range..... much better than a 45.... but not always the most convenient in some locations!

Because a base is armed does not mean everyone has to be "packing".

Being a Marine I had several "weapons checks" from brass and NCOs screwing with the peon! A dirty weapon could cancel your liberty and get you "duty"!

Should something happen, as it has now a handful of times causing the death of unarmed service members, how much time do you want to stand around waiting for your weapons and ammo?