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Topic: china and babies
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Fri 08/21/15 12:59 AM
Arrrgh!! why why?? stop the madness...tears


http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/08/11/chinas-abandoned-children-pkg-ripley-ns.cnn/video/playlists/trending-video/

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/08/05/intv-china-baby-pleitgen-amanpour-xinran.cnn/video/playlists/amanpour/


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Fri 08/21/15 01:07 AM

In fact, this is very common in China.

Abandon babies.. Especially those 3rd or 4th tier provinces old folks thinking preference is always boy.

If they get a baby girl, usually they will be abandoned somewhere.

Why are they happening?
1) China one child policy
2) Strange belief
3) Education



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Fri 08/21/15 01:23 AM
aside from what you mentioned...

the video also shows boys being abandoned because of some deformities like spina bifida.

there are also some criminal liabilities for not being able to care properly for them, hence they subsequently abandoned or orphaned.

an article states that it is unlawful for an unmarried woman to give birth, and abortion becomes the only option.

funny, cause ive seen some documentaries about how spoiled and unruly those only boys become...for something so precious...

madness, i tell you...madness...

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1462626/abandoned-heartbreaking-moments-parents-leave-their-children-chinas?page=all

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26607505

http://www.commdiginews.com/world-news/chinas-abandoned-babies-male-bias-one-child-policy-poverty-all-to-blame-23456/

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Fri 08/21/15 01:48 AM
I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided

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Fri 08/21/15 01:56 AM
Edited by Ladywind7 on Fri 08/21/15 01:59 AM

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Fri 08/21/15 01:58 AM

I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided


Yes give the red packet and your queries shall be answered!

But marrying a china gal is not cheap, high dowery.. so giving birth to a gal should have more benefits!! tongue2

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Fri 08/21/15 02:04 AM
Edited by Pansytilly on Fri 08/21/15 02:07 AM

I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided



do you know what the liability is for the doctor to provide the info?


One-Child Policy Didn't Give China Too Many Boys
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-02-03/one-child-policy-didn-t-give-china-too-many-boys


Murky fetal clinics in illegal ultrasound service
http://china.org.cn/china/2012-06/04/content_25557578.htm

China's one-child policy: doctors discover 23 sewing needles in womans head
http://www.informationliberation.com/test.php?id=23657

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Fri 08/21/15 02:20 AM


I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided


Yes give the red packet and your queries shall be answered!

But marrying a china gal is not cheap, high dowery.. so giving birth to a gal should have more benefits!! tongue2


i foresee problems...a lot of mainland chinese are moving out...and not the reputable kind...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/world/the-consequences-of-chinas-one-child-policy/315/

China’s Brutal One-Child Policy Ruins Men’s Marriage Prospects, Resulting in Human Trafficking
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/23/chinas-brutal-one-child-policy-ruins-mens-marriage-prospects-resulting-in-human-trafficking/

The One-Child Policy Has Destroyed the Chinese Family
http://www.aleteia.org/en/world/article/the-one-child-policy-has-destroyed-the-chinese-family-6207489003487232

How China's one-child policy has ruined the marriage prospects of its young men
http://national.deseretnews.com/article/3163/how-chinas-one-child-policy-has-ruined-the-marriage-prospects-of-its-young-men.html


on another topic...

didn't singapore have issues with an aging population just recently? i know that they offer more benefits for young couples and start up families to move there...


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Fri 08/21/15 02:36 AM
Yes.. indeed we have. Woman not getting married and have children, etc.. So the government welcome foreigners to become citizens but unfortunately the recent incoming foreigners quality is getting bad.. alot of noise made by the people.

We are in a very tricky position...

AND Studies shown that Subsidies given for young couples are not able to sustain the high cost living here in singapore. School fees.. tuition.. extra ciriculum.. childcare..etc.

But my personnel point of view.. i think most people are living beyond their means.
oops any singaporean here in this forum!?bigsmile

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Fri 08/21/15 02:39 AM

Yes.. indeed we have. Woman not getting married and have children, etc.. So the government welcome foreigners to become citizens but unfortunately the recent incoming foreigners quality is getting bad.. alot of noise made by the people.

We are in a very tricky position...

AND Studies shown that Subsidies given for young couples are not able to sustain the high cost living here in singapore. School fees.. tuition.. extra ciriculum.. childcare..etc.

But my personnel point of view.. i think most people are living beyond their means.
oops any singaporean here in this forum!?bigsmile


i know, right?!?!?laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 08/21/15 02:41 AM
rofl

I ain't one of them noway

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Fri 08/21/15 02:57 AM


I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided



do you know what the liability is for the doctor to provide the info?


One-Child Policy Didn't Give China Too Many Boys
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-02-03/one-child-policy-didn-t-give-china-too-many-boys


Murky fetal clinics in illegal ultrasound service
http://china.org.cn/china/2012-06/04/content_25557578.htm

China's one-child policy: doctors discover 23 sewing needles in womans head
http://www.informationliberation.com/test.php?id=23657
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No, I didn't ask. But here everything is controlled by the government. To the best of my knowledge there is no entity in place other then answering to them if you are caught.

But by the pitch of the "ohhh.no.no.no." that I heard, that seems to be enough

But money talks in any country.

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Fri 08/21/15 03:21 AM

rofl

I ain't one of them noway


:laughing:flowers

Show us those cereal prawns and prove it! drool :banana:

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Fri 08/21/15 03:23 AM


rofl

I ain't one of them noway


:laughing:flowers

Show us those cereal prawns and prove it! drool :banana:


How about chilli crabs? rofl

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Fri 08/21/15 03:25 AM



rofl

I ain't one of them noway


:laughing:flowers

Show us those cereal prawns and prove it! drool :banana:


How about chilli crabs? rofl


With a bowl of laksa noodles :thumbsup: bigsmile

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Fri 08/21/15 03:27 AM




rofl

I ain't one of them noway


:laughing:flowers

Show us those cereal prawns and prove it! drool :banana:


How about chilli crabs? rofl


With a bowl of laksa noodles :thumbsup: bigsmile


rofl rofl rofl plus sugar cane

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Fri 08/21/15 03:45 AM


I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided


Yes give the red packet and your queries shall be answered!

But marrying a china gal is not cheap, high dowery.. so giving birth to a gal should have more benefits!! tongue2


Yeah, for the ones who make the cut. I think the ratio is like 4 males to every female.

And the women ARE picky.. they can be. they want the best they can get, which has lead to a bzillion regular " Joe Shmoe" Chinese guys with basically no chance to find a girl friend or wife. The male factory workers and laborer type have a almost zero chance of attracting a mate. It is a big social problem here which has lead to many very depressed guys.

During one recent prostitution raid one of the customers ( a young guy) was asked "why?.. he said. " well, where else can I touch a woman's hair or face or kiss a woman.

Pretty sad.


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Fri 08/21/15 03:56 AM



I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided


Yes give the red packet and your queries shall be answered!

But marrying a china gal is not cheap, high dowery.. so giving birth to a gal should have more benefits!! tongue2


Yeah, for the ones who make the cut. I think the ratio is like 4 males to every female.

And the women ARE picky.. they can be. they want the best they can get, which has lead to a bzillion regular " Joe Shmoe" Chinese guys with basically no chance to find a girl friend or wife. The male factory workers and laborer type have a almost zero chance of attracting a mate. It is a big social problem here which has lead to many very depressed guys.

During one recent prostitution raid one of the customers ( a young guy) was asked "why?.. he said. " well, where else can I touch a woman's hair or face or kiss a woman.

Pretty sad.



Sad but guys are crazy to even willing to pay such a high price.. all these is because of 'face'!
If the guys or family couldn't afford to buy an apartment then there's extremely low chances of finding a bride..

On the other hand Most woman in china don't work.. they are seeking for opportunities. Foreigners will be their first target so the remaining chinese guys will have even tougher competition.
frown

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Fri 08/21/15 04:25 AM




I spend a bit of time in China. One of my workers was pregnant, so I asked her and others around ( thru my translator) the obvious. " so.. is it a boy or a girl".. they all just said.. ohhh..no.no.no.

Then proceeded to tell me that it is illegal in mainland China for the doctor to tell anyone what the sex is before the birth... because here in China they want boys.. not girls. If they know the sex and know it is a girl, many people will terminate the pregnancy.. and try again.. and again until they get that boy.

They told me this matter of factly, as I just stared at them in disbelief.

My translator whispered to me that many doctors.. if you give them money.. will tell you.

And that is one reason the male to female rate here in China is soo lop sided


Yes give the red packet and your queries shall be answered!

But marrying a china gal is not cheap, high dowery.. so giving birth to a gal should have more benefits!! tongue2


Yeah, for the ones who make the cut. I think the ratio is like 4 males to every female.

And the women ARE picky.. they can be. they want the best they can get, which has lead to a bzillion regular " Joe Shmoe" Chinese guys with basically no chance to find a girl friend or wife. The male factory workers and laborer type have a almost zero chance of attracting a mate. It is a big social problem here which has lead to many very depressed guys.

During one recent prostitution raid one of the customers ( a young guy) was asked "why?.. he said. " well, where else can I touch a woman's hair or face or kiss a woman.

Pretty sad.



Sad but guys are crazy to even willing to pay such a high price.. all these is because of 'face'!
If the guys or family couldn't afford to buy an apartment then there's extremely low chances of finding a bride..

On the other hand Most woman in china don't work.. they are seeking for opportunities. Foreigners will be their first target so the remaining chinese guys will have even tougher competition.
frown



And its a family affair. we have a guy here working like 20 hours a day to make the money for his sons house (apartment) down payment. The kid doesn't even have a girl friend.. but he never will unless he can entice one with the down payment money..

The girls are pressured to get married before 28, or they run the risk of being classified as a 'left over"

crazy place.

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Fri 08/21/15 04:37 AM




And its a family affair. we have a guy here working like 20 hours a day to make the money for his sons house (apartment) down payment. The kid doesn't even have a girl friend.. but he never will unless he can entice one with the down payment money..

The girls are pressured to get married before 28, or they run the risk of being classified as a 'left over"

crazy place.


Yup agreed crazy place drinks

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