Topic: How old is the earth?
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Sun 09/06/15 12:42 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sun 09/06/15 12:43 PM




Yes Cheechako, it seems that God chooses to make himself and a whole other realm of activity vaguely perceivable to us.

Even the earliest stages of creation are seemingly stretched-out over an indefinite period of time.

We seem to be obliged to look at mind-numbingly gradual processes mixed-in with ones that are seemingly instantaneous.

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Here's an example...

Often I see signs of sedimentary rock all over the place.

They are often in elevations without any recent memory of water sluicing and depositing this stone.

They are much easier to explain than the Granite rocks that are filled with all kinds of streaks and well-ribboned crystal formations.

I've got an elder brother who's a geologist and even he's at a loss to explain them.

We know what the text-books say on the subject, but they're woefully incomprehensive.

I majored in metallurgy in my senior years of schooling and my only conclusion is they came into existence in the blinking of an eye.

Yes, much is left to faith. smokin







your brother is a geologist and he can't explain that? very easily explained with a simple internet search... how do you think mountains are formed? sometimes the land raises and lowers in millions of years with pressure buildup below.... the Grand Canyon is a great example of it....






It would take a lot more than an internet search to understand the geology of the earth. I worked in mining exploration as a teen and have been prospecting ever since. Geology is based on theories and the theories are constantly revised and updated.


all science is that way.. the more they learn, the more revised it gets... but it is all based on studies, calculations, and repetitious finds... but to say it happened in a blink of an eye isn't science, just a self justification of a god

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Sun 09/06/15 02:41 PM
It has been my observation that certain elements aren't that compatibly put together.

Even in the most controlled industrial settings certain things don't easily get stuck to each other.

Kind of like lead-solder and cast-iron... They just don't go together that easily.

This is all I was trying to make a relative comparison with.

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The next time You go outside and find a rock like Pink, Grey, Green, or Black Granite and You also happen to have a nice streak of Quarts running through it, ask Yourself, "How the heck did that get there ?"

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Sun 09/06/15 02:47 PM

It has been my observation that certain elements aren't that compatibly put together.

Even in the most controlled industrial settings certain things don't easily get stuck to each other.

Kind of like lead-solder and cast-iron... They just don't go together that easily.

This is all I was trying to make a relative comparison with.

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The next time You go outside and find a rock like Pink, Grey, Green, or Black Granite and You also happen to have a nice streak of Quarts running through it, ask Yourself, "How the heck did that get there ?"


i do it every time i see something "unusual"... but i don't automatically think god did it, seems that it would have bigger fish to fry than placement of minerals in rocks...

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Sun 09/06/15 02:50 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Sun 09/06/15 02:51 PM


We know what the text-books say on the subject, but they're woefully incomprehensive.









your brother is a geologist and he can't explain that? very easily explained with a simple internet search... how do you think mountains are formed? sometimes the land raises and lowers in millions of years with pressure buildup below.... the Grand Canyon is a great example of it...



The Grand Canyon that You've referred to is a classic example of sedimentary rock not igneous... It's the easier to explain.





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Sun 09/06/15 03:01 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Sun 09/06/15 03:08 PM



i do it every time i see something "unusual"... but i don't automatically think god did it, seems that it would have bigger fish to fry than placement of minerals in rocks...



Very well... Just how long or how brief would You conclude certain igneous formations needed to become the solids they are today ?

A better question would be how did all these streaks of other contrasting stone come to be without any signs of gravitation having an effect on their process ?




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Sun 09/06/15 03:10 PM



We know what the text-books say on the subject, but they're woefully incomprehensive.









your brother is a geologist and he can't explain that? very easily explained with a simple internet search... how do you think mountains are formed? sometimes the land raises and lowers in millions of years with pressure buildup below.... the Grand Canyon is a great example of it...



The Grand Canyon that You've referred to is a classic example of sedimentary rock not igneous... It's the easier to explain.







your question was how sedimentary rocks got to such an altitude, the GC was uplifted almost a mile from when it started 70 million years ago... no one is sure about the age, some say 7 million, others say 70 million...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_the_Grand_Canyon_area

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Sun 09/06/15 03:12 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Sun 09/06/15 03:16 PM
I've already got a perfectly logical explanation for sedimentary rock at high elevations, and it was during Mankind being on the Earth at the time.

No need for millions of years. whoa

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Sun 09/06/15 03:14 PM





"How the heck did that get there ?"




god did it... it's a test of your faith...

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Sun 09/06/15 03:22 PM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Sun 09/06/15 03:24 PM
God having done it is more feasible than the bewildering contrast between a volcanic crucible with no ability for any of life to exist in it, and just over here in the sedimentary rock... Tons of life ! shocked




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Sun 09/06/15 03:31 PM

God having done it is more feasible than the bewildering contrast between a volcanic crucible with no ability for any of life to exist in it, and just over here in the sedimentary rock... Tons of life ! shocked






lol... god has nothing better to do than move rocks around...

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Sun 09/06/15 03:35 PM
If but for our benefit ! :laughing:

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Sun 09/06/15 03:54 PM
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MightyMoe Believes In God, When He Looks At His Own Rocks !

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Sun 09/06/15 07:05 PM
Old enough to f@#$/^&* know better. Wait... earth or world?

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Mon 09/07/15 08:30 AM





Yes Cheechako, it seems that God chooses to make himself and a whole other realm of activity vaguely perceivable to us.

Even the earliest stages of creation are seemingly stretched-out over an indefinite period of time.

We seem to be obliged to look at mind-numbingly gradual processes mixed-in with ones that are seemingly instantaneous.

*******************************************************

Here's an example...

Often I see signs of sedimentary rock all over the place.

They are often in elevations without any recent memory of water sluicing and depositing this stone.

They are much easier to explain than the Granite rocks that are filled with all kinds of streaks and well-ribboned crystal formations.

I've got an elder brother who's a geologist and even he's at a loss to explain them.

We know what the text-books say on the subject, but they're woefully incomprehensive.

I majored in metallurgy in my senior years of schooling and my only conclusion is they came into existence in the blinking of an eye.

Yes, much is left to faith. smokin







your brother is a geologist and he can't explain that? very easily explained with a simple internet search... how do you think mountains are formed? sometimes the land raises and lowers in millions of years with pressure buildup below.... the Grand Canyon is a great example of it....






It would take a lot more than an internet search to understand the geology of the earth. I worked in mining exploration as a teen and have been prospecting ever since. Geology is based on theories and the theories are constantly revised and updated.


all science is that way.. the more they learn, the more revised it gets... but it is all based on studies, calculations, and repetitious finds... but to say it happened in a blink of an eye isn't science, just a self justification of a god






That's right scientific theories are studied, tested and revised based on the information of the day. When new information found they have to be revised or thrown out. So at the end of the day, a theory is still just a theory, no matter how many million people accept it as fact. Religion needs to be tested also. Nobody on the face of the earth has all the answers. The Big Bang theory and Genesis seem to agree on a relatively quick start. I wasn't around so I can't say for sure.

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Mon 09/07/15 10:23 PM


If the scientist's calculations are reliable the dinosaurs died out about 60 million years ago. I think we need to take another look at Genesis. I would like to know more about the Greek translation. If Greek is a "synthetic" language, is it easily misinterpreted?



Genesis is originally in Hebrew.

No it is originally in Aramaic.

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Tue 09/08/15 07:44 AM




Will it be okay to mention the age of earth in terms of the present time it is taking to revolve around itself?

What if this revolution time is different before?


that still wouldn't change the 4.5 billion years... you talking about a perception on how we interpret time...


Yeah...I mean whatever the age is calculated ...it's in terms of the years...the time that earth takes to complete a revolution around the sun.

How can this calculated figure be realistic if suppose our planet was rotating at say half or may be double of it's current speed??
..................... BIble has a day for the creation of this earth. And it says: In the beginning,that is the first day. Genesis 1:1. And that was the first day. So study your Bible before you say something if you are not sure of.


laugh laugh laugh laugh

Studying bible or any religious book for being sure of certain fact is ridiculous dude...
It is just like referring to some story for proving something....huh

Wish you all the best for studying your bible...

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Tue 09/08/15 01:38 PM





Genesis is originally in Hebrew.

No it is originally in Aramaic.



Genesis was and still is in Hebrew.

It's the original entire Christian Texts that were originally in Aramaic and were then trans-scribed into Greek in the 4th century.

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Tue 09/08/15 03:36 PM



We know what the text-books say on the subject, but they're woefully incomprehensive.









your brother is a geologist and he can't explain that? very easily explained with a simple internet search... how do you think mountains are formed? sometimes the land raises and lowers in millions of years with pressure buildup below.... the Grand Canyon is a great example of it...



The Grand Canyon that You've referred to is a classic example of sedimentary rock not igneous... It's the easier to explain.







It has both. I've been there at the bottom of the canyon.

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Tue 09/08/15 03:47 PM
smile2 If only to make it that much more confusing.

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Tue 09/08/15 03:55 PM




i do it every time i see something "unusual"... but i don't automatically think god did it, seems that it would have bigger fish to fry than placement of minerals in rocks...



Very well... Just how long or how brief would You conclude certain igneous formations needed to become the solids they are today ?

A better question would be how did all these streaks of other contrasting stone come to be without any signs of gravitation having an effect on their process ?






You seem to be confusing the different types of rock. Marble and granite are metamorphic formations. If a sedimentary formation with lots of layers and variations in the sediment is buried deep enough and long enough and gets hot enough, the sedimentary rock is transformed into a different, more highly compressed, mineral like marble or granite. They start out as limestone and granular sandstone or gravelstone with LOTS of seams of things like sand which are metamorphosed into seams of quartz.

Igneous rock is formed from lava which can be formed from melted crust or from deeper mantle rock.

Subduction zones are places where one continental plate dives under another one. The whole crust can be melted and come squirting out of a volcano later.



Types of rocks