Topic: Republican "debates" very frustrating so far.
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Tue 12/15/15 06:16 PM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Tue 12/15/15 06:17 PM
Rand Paul said some nice things, but too many of these people are going off on a mythological claim that the present administration has done NOTHING WHATSOEVER to oppose ISIS and terrorism in general.

There's no such thing as building a true and logical better way to lead the country, if you insist on starting from a foundation of political myth.

If they would say that Obama's foreign policies have been poor quality, or wrong-headed, or otherwise in need of improvement, I would support them.

But claiming that NOTHING has been done, is an insult to the thousands of Americans who are daily working as part of the current administration, to do all sorts of things to try to make things better.

It's as bad as the people who are pretending that when Putin had bombs dropped in Syria, that somehow that was a fabulous demonstration of Russian superior leadership, even though Obama had done that times a hundred already, using better bombs and a more capable military.

Please. DO lead us in a better direction. But for the sake of reality, you damn well better start from where we ACTUALLY are now, and stop pretending that we're somewhere else.


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Tue 12/15/15 06:20 PM
For goodness sake. They even tried to blame the local Los Angeles school systems decision to close for a day, on Obama! Carefully ignoring the fact that New York did the opposite, and Obama is just as much President in new York as in California.

And, of course, that schools aren't under Federal jurisdiction. As Republicans USED to know well, and support.

Sheesh.

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Tue 12/15/15 06:50 PM
sad I missed it !

I missed it all !

frustrated How much reading am I going to have to do for this thread ?

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Tue 12/15/15 06:57 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Tue 12/15/15 07:18 PM
that the present administration has done
NOTHING WHATSOEVER to oppose ISIS and
terrorism in general.
Hmm....well there are 14 dead in San Bernardino a little over two weeks ago.....And he stated ISIS was contained right before 130 were slaughtered in Paris....so, "WHATSOEVER" he HAS done...it's, evidently, not enough.

As for the events in CA today...maybe if Obama HAD done a better job, there wouldnt have been any bomb threat, fake or not, to play on our fears.

No matter...Obama is gone in a little more than a year. And maybe we get Hillary....and get more of the last 7 years....and an extension of that ISIS threat here on our own soil. That's a FRUSTRATION I don't want. Good luck in YOUR frustration at a simple debate....I CAN help with that though....change the channel laugh

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Tue 12/15/15 09:38 PM

Btw....^^^^^ Obama terrorist strategy laugh

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Tue 12/15/15 11:09 PM
I cant stomach watching Trumps stupid faces so I havent watched past the first one,, but my mom ( a wise lady) is keeping up and agrees with you..

all pandering on fear and blame and very little substance or plan,,,

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Wed 12/16/15 03:28 AM

that the present administration has done
NOTHING WHATSOEVER to oppose ISIS and
terrorism in general.
Hmm....well there are 14 dead in San Bernardino a little over two weeks ago.....And he stated ISIS was contained right before 130 were slaughtered in Paris....so, "WHATSOEVER" he HAS done...it's, evidently, not enough.

As for the events in CA today...maybe if Obama HAD done a better job, there wouldnt have been any bomb threat, fake or not, to play on our fears.

No matter...Obama is gone in a little more than a year. And maybe we get Hillary....and get more of the last 7 years....and an extension of that ISIS threat here on our own soil. That's a FRUSTRATION I don't want. Good luck in YOUR frustration at a simple debate....I CAN help with that though....change the channel laugh


You are clearly of the thinking that ANYTHING bad that happens is directly due to Obama personally seeing to it that our people are prevented from action. That's a delusion that you have to ignore facts to maintain, and I see that you've done so.

Not going to argue with someone who doesn't read or think for themselves, but I will point out that you also are insulting our military for "doing nothing" despite their sacrifices. And you ignore that San Bernadino wasn't an ISIS operation or attack, it was a self-deluded pair who decided on their own to do as they did. Just as a number of other people have done over the many years we have had to deal with these dangers, in a series of Republican as well as Democratic administrations.

Sticking your own head in the sand will make you popular with the GOP, but just as their bombast wont do anything to defend us, your prejudice wont either.


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Wed 12/16/15 05:15 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/16/15 05:20 AM

Rand makes more sense than any of them, but he's not his father.

They are already leaving him out of the news and press, or spouting the regular "isolationist" blather when mentioned, but maybe that's what we need? Bring our troops home, put them on our borders, and let the Muslim nations fend for themselves as they've done continually for over 2000 years!

As we deplete our military, our arsenal, and our brave troops defending their a$$e$ they laugh, cross our practically open borders like the US Mail claiming to be refugees to also impact our already failing economy and rising national debt.

Under the present conditions and actions , BY ALL IN WASHINGTON, we're winning the war for them, against ourselves!

It's not just Oblowme, but he is CIC, and it is his watch!

Not to mention that his word is not very trustworthy. As a matter of fact, he lies nearly compulsively!

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Wed 12/16/15 05:32 AM


Rand makes more sense than any of them, but he's not his father.

They are already leaving him out of the news and press, or spouting the regular "isolationist" blather when mentioned, but maybe that's what we need? Bring our troops home, put them on our borders, and let the Muslim nations fend for themselves as they've done continually for over 2000 years!

As we deplete our military, our arsenal, and our brave troops defending their a$$e$ they laugh, cross our practically open borders like the US Mail claiming to be refugees to also impact our already failing economy and rising national debt.

Under the present conditions and actions , BY ALL IN WASHINGTON, we're winning the war for them, against ourselves!

It's not just Oblowme, but he is CIC, and it is his watch!

Not to mention that his word is not very trustworthy. As a matter of fact, he lies nearly compulsively!

NEARLY?

laugh

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Wed 12/16/15 05:34 AM


that the present administration has done
NOTHING WHATSOEVER to oppose ISIS and
terrorism in general.
Hmm....well there are 14 dead in San Bernardino a little over two weeks ago.....And he stated ISIS was contained right before 130 were slaughtered in Paris....so, "WHATSOEVER" he HAS done...it's, evidently, not enough.

As for the events in CA today...maybe if Obama HAD done a better job, there wouldnt have been any bomb threat, fake or not, to play on our fears.

No matter...Obama is gone in a little more than a year. And maybe we get Hillary....and get more of the last 7 years....and an extension of that ISIS threat here on our own soil. That's a FRUSTRATION I don't want. Good luck in YOUR frustration at a simple debate....I CAN help with that though....change the channel laugh


You are clearly of the thinking that ANYTHING bad that happens is directly due to Obama personally seeing to it that our people are prevented from action. That's a delusion that you have to ignore facts to maintain, and I see that you've done so.

Not going to argue with someone who doesn't read or think for themselves, but I will point out that you also are insulting our military for "doing nothing" despite their sacrifices. And you ignore that San Bernadino wasn't an ISIS operation or attack, it was a self-deluded pair who decided on their own to do as they did. Just as a number of other people have done over the many years we have had to deal with these dangers, in a series of Republican as well as Democratic administrations.

Sticking your own head in the sand will make you popular with the GOP, but just as their bombast wont do anything to defend us, your prejudice wont either.



Checked who the present CIC is?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 12/16/15 05:34 AM

He once said people were upset with him..... that was true...... then and now!

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Wed 12/16/15 05:38 AM


He once said people were upset with him..... that was true...... then and now!
OK.
laugh

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Wed 12/16/15 07:45 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Wed 12/16/15 07:58 AM
You are clearly of the thinking that ANYTHING
bad that happens is directly due to Obama
personally seeing to it that our people are
prevented from action.
He's the president genius....His actions, or lack thereof, make him responsible...except to his dlckriders

but I will point
out that you also are insulting our military for
"doing nothing" despite their sacrifices.
Um no....Im not insulting anyone. YOU complaimed about a debate where you thought it was bad that some where blaming Obama for not doing anything about ISS or terror attacks...all I did was use two examples showing his failures that you wont recognize.

And
you ignore that San Bernadino wasn't an ISIS
operation or attack,
It was an ISIS inspired attack....Im sorry if youre not intelligent enough to see that. My head in the sand? No...I can see that Obamas actions(or lack of actions) havent worked....and they have allowed ISIS to propagate their beliefs and have allowed individuals to access those beliefs and act on them. If my head is in the sand, yours is up Obama's azz....and all you hear is him farting "jv team" and "contained" and "gun control will fix it".

Not going to argue with someone who doesn't
read or think for themselves,
Right back at ya genius. And congrats on this troll thread...thats all it was meant to be anyway.

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Wed 12/16/15 09:42 AM

I cant stomach watching Trumps stupid faces so I havent watched past the first one,, but my mom ( a wise lady) is keeping up and agrees with you..

all pandering on fear and blame and very little substance or plan,,,


Kind what we have had for the last 7 years, huh?bigsmile

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Wed 12/16/15 10:50 AM


I cant stomach watching Trumps stupid faces so I havent watched past the first one,, but my mom ( a wise lady) is keeping up and agrees with you..

all pandering on fear and blame and very little substance or plan,,,


Kind what we have had for the last 7 years, huh?bigsmile


empty promises and broken lies... seems to be the norm in Washington for the last 20 years...