Topic: Cameron Adviser Apologizes for Racist Comments 30 Years Ago
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Wed 12/30/15 03:52 AM
Cameron Adviser Apologizes for Racist Comments 30 Years Ago - ABC News

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Cameron Adviser Apologizes for Racist Comments 30 Years Ago

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
LONDON — Dec 30, 2015, 4:09 AM ET

One of Prime Minister David Cameron's top advisers has publicly apologized for racist comments he made 30 years ago that have just been made public.

Cabinet Office minister Oliver Letwin said Wednesday comments he made to then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in 1985, when several major British cities were gripped by riots, were "badly worded and wrong."

In a memo to Thatcher, Letwin blamed "bad moral attitudes" for rioting in mostly black inner city communities. He said white communities had lived for decades in similar conditions without rioting.

He was at the time an influential adviser to Thatcher and helped shape her government's response to the inner city disturbances.

The memo was released by the National Archives under a rule requiring government to made public after three decades.
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Oliver Letwin blamed black communities for 80s race riots |

Daily Mail Online http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3378237/Top-Tory-racism-storm-PM-s-policy-chief-Letwin-blamed-black-communities-bad-moral-attitudes-80s-riots-official-memo.html/


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VERY lengthy article
Will not copy.
Anybody?

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Wed 12/30/15 05:19 AM
over the top that people cant allow individuals to grow from what they might have once been

unless theres evidence of ONGOING racism from this person throughout the years(especially recent years),,,,or unless the individual has claimed to have NEVER been racist


I don't see the point of digging so far back into ones life,,,

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Wed 12/30/15 08:15 AM

over the top that people cant allow individuals to grow from what they might have once been

unless theres evidence of ONGOING racism from this person throughout the years(especially recent years),,,,or unless the individual has claimed to have NEVER been racist


I don't see the point of digging so far back into ones life,,,


Must fit their agenda.

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Wed 12/30/15 08:33 AM
I don't see that he did say anything wrong.

The riots in which a policeman was hacked to death took place in a mainly black area. The area was run down, high unemployment and drugs were rife.

He pointed out that there were mainly white areas with identical run down conditions, equally high unemployment and drugs.

Yet the people in these areas were mainly well behaved.

Dragging this up is just someone jumping on the race card gravy train.

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Wed 12/30/15 07:37 PM
yeah, he was wrong to imply there was some implicit inferior values amongst blacks

but , it was too long ago for me to care,,, unless there had/has been ongoing similar statements since

which has not been reported so,,, to repeat myself

too long ago for me to care , too small a part of that individuals KNOWN behavior over a lifetime,,

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Wed 12/30/15 08:51 PM
If he spoke the truth, he owes no one an apology.
Regardless of who's feelers got hurt.

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Thu 12/31/15 01:02 AM

yeah, he was wrong to imply there was some implicit inferior values amongst blacks

but , it was too long ago for me to care,,, unless there had/has been ongoing similar statements since

which has not been reported so,,, to repeat myself

too long ago for me to care , too small a part of that individuals KNOWN behavior over a lifetime,,
laugh
so,how come people still harp on something that was eradicated by 1865?

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Thu 12/31/15 02:04 AM

If he spoke the truth, he owes no one an apology.
Regardless of who's feelers got hurt.


:thumbsup:
He called it like he seen it. If people have a problem with that 30 years later....that is their problem, not his.

Did he make any comments about women 30 years ago? Are there women asking for or demanding an apology ? Are they calling him names ? Like sexist pig?

No... no ones cares. No one should.
And he shouldn't of apologized.
Will or did this bring him 'respect'?
Nope.

Now.. women may be calling him 'whimpy ' :tongue:

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Thu 12/31/15 05:05 AM


yeah, he was wrong to imply there was some implicit inferior values amongst blacks

but , it was too long ago for me to care,,, unless there had/has been ongoing similar statements since

which has not been reported so,,, to repeat myself

too long ago for me to care , too small a part of that individuals KNOWN behavior over a lifetime,,
laugh
so,how come people still harp on something that was eradicated by 1865?
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because of the 'ongoing similar' part

slavery , lead to jim crow, which TOGETHER set a solid FOUNDATION for the culture that devalued the lives of minorities,,,

different thing altogether than a statement uttered by ONE individual on ONE occasion on ONE Day , out of their whole life,,,

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Thu 12/31/15 05:07 AM

If he spoke the truth, he owes no one an apology.
Regardless of who's feelers got hurt.


true, but since he didn't (white folks have rioted as often if not more than any other group)

it was inappropriate, especially from someone in a position of authority over the alleged inferior demographic

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Sun 01/03/16 08:19 PM


If he spoke the truth, he owes no one an apology.
Regardless of who's feelers got hurt.


true, but since he didn't (white folks have rioted as often if not more than any other group)

it was inappropriate, especially from someone in a position of authority over the alleged inferior demographic


Wait!
What?

Truth is inappropriate?


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Sun 01/03/16 08:37 PM



If he spoke the truth, he owes no one an apology.
Regardless of who's feelers got hurt.


true, but since he didn't (white folks have rioted as often if not more than any other group)

it was inappropriate, especially from someone in a position of authority over the alleged inferior demographic


Wait!
What?

Truth is inappropriate?




no, untruth is

like a statement that whites hadn't acted that way,,,,

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Sun 01/03/16 08:54 PM




If he spoke the truth, he owes no one an apology.
Regardless of who's feelers got hurt.


true, but since he didn't (white folks have rioted as often if not more than any other group)

it was inappropriate, especially from someone in a position of authority over the alleged inferior demographic


Wait!
What?

Truth is inappropriate?




no, untruth is

like a statement that whites hadn't acted that way,,,,


Between the two of us, I'm sure we can rehash every riot there ever was, by racial demographic.

And, since we both like to dig into the past...
1960s Watts vs. 1960s Beverly Hills.
The neighbourhoods were predominantly, what?
The riots happened where?

1990s Beverly Hills vs. 1990s South Central.
The neighbourhoods were more diverse by this time.
But, again, the riots happened in which neighbourhood?

No argument, that broke azz white folks can riot with all
the enthusiasm of broke azz black folks.

But, if a high crime area is democratically "black", sugarcoating it, only increases the rate of diabetes.


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Sun 01/03/16 08:56 PM
first, that wasn't close to 'all the riots',,lol

and secondly, it does nothing to refute the point that saying whites didn't riot was untrue