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Topic: Obama to hold public meeting on gun control
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Fri 01/08/16 11:20 AM



I watched the townhall meeting tonight. Nothing too crazy happened...rather tame. Obama said "loophole" and "background checks" about a hundred times....and when asked about titles for firearms by some Chiraq activist/priest, he said that is similar to registration amd there is no national consensus on that....yet. A slip? Idk....
The format wasnt that great...select questioners could only ask one question with no follow up. Really nothing new from either side
Correction...Obama did not say that there is no national consensus on gun registration "yet"...he said "at this stage".


Full town hall meeting
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jFAK1iM9BFM&itct=CCMQpDAYBCITCPLo_pT0msoCFUO6fgodjXkBKlIRY25uIHRvd25oYWxsIGd1bnM%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=US

And i guess "town hall meeting" is a misnomer...all questioners were invited and screened. You go CNN laugh

Access with Tickets only!:laughing:


Heard the NRA was invited but would be allowed only one question...
They declined the invitationlaugh


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Fri 01/08/16 11:29 AM
Heard the NRA was invited but would be
allowed only one question...
They declined the invitation
It really wouldnt have mattered...A question got asked, Obama would spin it, and no follow up questions were allowed....and no questioning of the speil he would give between questions.
He woulda been absolutely destroyed in an actual debate on the subject. It was basically a sham.

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Sat 01/09/16 07:11 AM

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Sat 01/09/16 10:41 AM
Seventy-two killed resisting gun confiscation in Boston

BOSTON
National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambus...hed on April 19th by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington 's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange.

Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units.

Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.

Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.

. . . And this, people, is how the American Revolution began .

April 20, 1775

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Thu 01/14/16 07:47 AM
Gun sales hit new record ahead of new Obama gun restrictions

By Christopher Ingraham

New federal data shows 2015 was a record-smashing year for the American firearms industry, with gun sales appearing to hit the highest level on record. Background checks for gun purchases and permits jumped 10 percent last year to 23.1 million, the largest number since the federal background check system began operating in 1998.

Black Friday 2015 was the single biggest gun-purchasing day ever, with more than 185,000 checks processed, according to background check figures from the FBI. December saw the highest number of background checks processed in any month. The last five weeks of the year all ranked among the 10 biggest weeks ever for firearm background checks.

The year-end surge happened partly in response to the mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., followed by President Obama's calls for more restrictions on gun sales. On Monday, Obama unveiled a package of executive actions that seek to curb gun violence, including conducting more background checks.

This matches a pattern we've seen plenty of times in the past: tragedy, followed by calls for gun control, followed by surging firearm sales. Interest in concealed-carry permits has generally followed a similar pattern.

One point of caution with the FBI's numbers: The agency stresses that you can't draw a one-to-one correspondence between "background checks" and "gun sales." The numbers include background checks for gun permits, too, which may or may not be accompanied by a sale. Different states have different procedures in place for running permit checks, as The Washington Post's Philip Bump notes here. Some unknown but likely significant percentage of gun transactions don't involve a federally licensed dealer and hence aren't accompanied by a background check at all. (Obama's rules, which he formally announced Tuesday, would require more gun sellers to be licensed and conduct background checks.)

Still, the FBI's figures provide a useful approximation of overall gun transactions in this country. And they strongly indicate that 2015 was a great year for gun manufacturers.

One interesting wrinkle is that national surveys indicate that the number of households owning firearms is either flat or trending downward, depending on whether you prefer measurements by Gallup or the General Social Survey. If gun sales are increasing, as these numbers from the FBI and different data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives suggest, the implication is that most of the growth in the firearms industry is coming from existing owners stocking up on more guns, rather than new purchasers buying for the first time.

In 2013, for instance, calculations suggest there were about eight guns in the typical gun-owning household. That's double the number in 1994.

The gun-control actions announced by the Obama administration Tuesday are so modest -- clarifications on who needs a federal firearms license and calls for more research -- that even the NRA is generally shrugging its shoulders at the changes.

"This is it, really?" the NRA's Jennifer Baker asked the New York Times. "This is what they’ve been hyping for how long now? This is the proposal they’ve spent seven years putting together? They’re not really doing anything."

In the end, the biggest long-term impact of these gun policy changes may simply be another month of record gun sales in January.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/05/gun-sales-hit-new-record-ahead-of-new-obama-gun-restrictions/



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