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peggy122's photo
Sat 01/16/16 03:33 PM

I think this question frequently gets wildly over-complicated.

The answer to "why is it so difficult for one to be loyal and faithful to their partner?" is actually quite simple:


It isn't. It isn't difficult at all, in any way shape or form.

Those who decide NOT to be loyal and faithful, aren't doing so because they are helpless against the forces of nature. They are "straying" because they want to stray.

It's like any other constant and repeating decision a person is called upon to make: why do you NOT steal things, or rob banks? Is it really a difficult thing to do, to NOT steal? No, it's simple: at each moment where you see something that you could steal, you ask yourself what it is that you want to do, what you want to be. Do you want to be a thief? Do you want to break your own declared rules? Most of us repeatedly decide NOT to be robbers and thieves. The ones who do steal, do so because they think it's a good idea, and they want to be thieves.

The hint to take from this, when searching for a loyal mate, is to watch for signs of loyalty to principle and standards in them in other ways. It's behind the old style idea to look for a mate who genuinely respects and honors their parents, their employer or employees as the case may be, and so on.

If you go on a date to a restaurant, and the other person is rude to the staff, or short changes them, or says mean things about people not there to respond, it's a hint that they see the world as being populated by themselves, and creatures who they can use.

One of the things I look for, in profiles, is the statement of the idea that the person thinks they are owed a certain set of benefits and activities on a regular basis from a mate. Anyone who declares that people can and should be quantified, calculated, and then discarded when they don't measure up, isn't looking for a true mate, they are looking for an employee, and a temporary one at that.





Hi IgorFrankensteen. At any point in your life , have you ever gone through a period where you weren't thinking logically due to anger, depression etc and did something regrettable consequently? And if the answer is yes, were your emotions completely sequential and logical
in the midst of your decisions? Most issues are uncomplicated in hindsight but while we are committing indiscretions in a headspace of confusion, lines can get blurry . We must always be accountable for the wrong that we do and the consequences it brings but nothing wrong with being mindful that human emotions are often not logical and regrettable actions are not always pre-meditated

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Sat 01/16/16 03:38 PM
It's not difficult for me to be loyal to a partner. I can't speak for others.

peggy122's photo
Sat 01/16/16 03:54 PM


In a relationship why is it so difficult for one to be loyal and faithful to their partner?

This and all the bullchit advice you've received shouldn't even be considered in a relationship.

If you've even got to speak to your partner about, or so much as mention the words loyal, faithful, or trust, then forget it.

These things are never spoken about in any good relationship.


Relationships typically start off great, but people get distracted with life challenges and sometimes take their relationships for granted, causing many issues to arise including issues of loyalty and trust. What is wrong with a couple have a respectful conversation about such things ensure that both parties are reassured that they ar on the same page

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Sat 01/16/16 04:09 PM

In a relationship why is it so difficult for one to be loyal and faithful to their partner?


It is never difficult to be loyal and faithful to your partner if you truly have love and respect for each other, also if you have fear to commit sin against your partner I believe you couldn't think of one single action or reason that would hurt the one you love and jeopardize your relationship.

peggy122's photo
Sat 01/16/16 04:23 PM

It's not difficult for me to be loyal to a partner. I can't speak for others.



I have been faithful to the men I love all my life too cantinidaho so I relate to what you said :smile: . Once I am with someone, I have no interest in anyone else and I suspect I will always feel that way. But unfaithfulness is so prevalent in the world today that it makes me think that its not easy for most people to do

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Sat 01/16/16 05:18 PM
Maybe its something to do with the exchange of vows....its always "for better or for worse". Its never "for good'...all I am saying..

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Sat 01/16/16 06:17 PM
I don't even like to admit this, but I tend to think, that the more physically attractive someone is, to that person in particular, the other person will be more attentive. As shallow as that probably is. I think it wakes them up, into think " If I can't win this person over, I'll never get to be with them". Something along those lines. Usually, people don't want to end up regretting losing another.

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Sat 01/16/16 08:08 PM
Does a lack of faithfulness translate into an absence of love as you suggested in an earlier quote?


Simple answer, yes. If you can't be faithful, you shouldn't marry. You should never marry someone that you are not sure you can be faithful to forever. If you have enough self-control and enough respect for yourself you can be faithful to one man or woman forever.

Also, You have to really love that person. That's really the key. I think that's what's wrong with a lot of people now. They don't know what love really is. They don't realize what the depth of it really should be.

IceCreeme's photo
Sun 01/17/16 03:29 AM

In a relationship why is it so difficult for one to be loyal and faithful to their partner?


There is NO relationship if one is not loyal and/or faithful.


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Sun 01/17/16 04:42 AM
Sometimes, you can be loyal in a relationship,
but the other person (your partner)
may have other plans,
And their plans might not be the same as yours.
You may simply be a stepping stone to them
Which seems to explain why some are not loyal



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Sun 01/17/16 05:57 AM

Hi IgorFrankensteen. At any point in your life , have you ever gone through a period where you weren't thinking logically due to anger, depression etc and did something regrettable consequently? And if the answer is yes, were your emotions completely sequential and logical
in the midst of your decisions? Most issues are uncomplicated in hindsight but while we are committing indiscretions in a headspace of confusion, lines can get blurry . We must always be accountable for the wrong that we do and the consequences it brings but nothing wrong with being mindful that human emotions are often not logical and regrettable actions are not always pre-meditated


The reason WHY I am so logical now, is precisely because I WASN'T that way to begin with. Like most people, I grew up trying to behave the same way I saw everyone around me behave, including making emotional choices, and reacting with anger overruling thought. The result was that I got used and abused to no end by pretty much everyone and everything. And when I wasn't being abused, I was destroying my own treasured life experiences.

But what we can decide to do, after we discover that we screwed up because we were angry and unthinking, is that we can carefully review what we did, and figure out exactly why we did it, one decision to the next. We can review what SEEMED to be the logical thing to us at the time, and teach ourselves to recognize why it was not.

That is how a person can choose to improve, and to STOP being ruled by emotions alone, or by logic devoid of emotions alone (which is just as much of a mistake, since we live in an emotion-rich world).

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Sun 01/17/16 06:02 AM
if you are in a relationship and you or your partner are thinking of straying

then the time has come for you to NOT be in a relationship



people are very good at justifying why they cheat

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Sun 01/17/16 06:21 AM
Edited by peggy122 on Sun 01/17/16 06:31 AM

Does a lack of faithfulness translate into an absence of love as you suggested in an earlier quote?


Simple answer, yes. If you can't be faithful, you shouldn't marry. You should never marry someone that you are not sure you can be faithful to forever. If you have enough self-control and enough respect for yourself you can be faithful to one man or woman forever.

Also, You have to really love that person. That's really the key. I think that's what's wrong with a lot of people now. They don't know what love really is. They don't realize what the depth of it really should be.


Unfaithfulness is one of the main destroyers of most relationships. Many of the perpetrators dont have bad intentions but they make the dumb mistake of repeatedly flirting with danger.If you are in a committed relationship, why are you visiting your friend so often with him/her alone at home? Why are you going online and flirting with new friends? Why are you constantly confiding your problems with your mate in someone of the opposite sex? why are you constantly working late at the office with your coworker with no one else present? Why are you NOT introducing close friends of the opposite sex to your mate? Many affairs started off with those innocent gestures and many people are engaging in these behaviours as we speak and are unaware that they have in fact set up the right conditions for their affair to take place. Many affairs may rooted in a lack of common sense as opposed to a lack of love. That being said I agree with you that many of us are flawed and dont seem to grasp what love is in its entirety not just in terms of faithfulness but all the other love components.I also suspect that people will continue to be shocked when they become victims of unfaithfulness because almost every victim from every decade and from every part of the world has built their relationship serenity on the same fragile assumption " My partner is different from the millions of suckers out there. My partner will NEVER cheat on me! "

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Sun 01/17/16 08:34 AM
It is better to have loved and lost...than never to have loved at all...(quote: GBS I think.)...all I am saying...figure that out...

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Sun 01/17/16 09:55 AM
Because now a days Instead of couples sitting and talking over stuffs and trying to work things out they go outside of the relationship trying to fill that gap and in the end it doesn't make them any happier and some of us are too shallow and doesn't compromise so if our partner fall short on one thing we seek it elsewhere instead of trying to adjust ....

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Sun 01/17/16 11:09 AM

Because now a days Instead of couples sitting and talking over stuffs and trying to work things out they go outside of the relationship trying to fill that gap and in the end it doesn't make them any happier and some of us are too shallow and doesn't compromise so if our partner fall short on one thing we seek it elsewhere instead of trying to adjust ....


Yep . Relationships take a lot of work . I guess some people are not committed to the work it takes.

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Sun 01/17/16 12:33 PM
" Just because someone is weak in the love components of loyalty and faithfulness, does that mean that they dont love you?"

Unfaithfulness is one of the main destroyers of most relationships. Many of the perpetrators dont have bad intentions but they make the dumb mistake of repeatedly flirting with danger.If you are in a committed relationship, why are you visiting your friend so often with him/her alone at home? Why are you going online and flirting with new friends? Why are you constantly confiding your problems with your mate in someone of the opposite sex? why are you constantly working late at the office with your coworker with no one else present? Why are you NOT introducing close friends of the opposite sex to your mate? Many affairs started off with those innocent gestures and many people are engaging in these behaviours as we speak and are unaware that they have in fact set up the right conditions for their affair to take place. Many affairs may rooted in a lack of common sense as opposed to a lack of love. That being said I agree with you that many of us are flawed and dont seem to grasp what love is in its entirety not just in terms of faithfulness but all the other love components.
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flowerforyou peggy122

eh! The context is perfect to what I view as a simple problem.

I have e-mailed the above to myself, so it may be passed on to friends when needed.:angel:



peggy122's photo
Sun 01/17/16 12:55 PM

" Just because someone is weak in the love components of loyalty and faithfulness, does that mean that they dont love you?"

Unfaithfulness is one of the main destroyers of most relationships. Many of the perpetrators dont have bad intentions but they make the dumb mistake of repeatedly flirting with danger.If you are in a committed relationship, why are you visiting your friend so often with him/her alone at home? Why are you going online and flirting with new friends? Why are you constantly confiding your problems with your mate in someone of the opposite sex? why are you constantly working late at the office with your coworker with no one else present? Why are you NOT introducing close friends of the opposite sex to your mate? Many affairs started off with those innocent gestures and many people are engaging in these behaviours as we speak and are unaware that they have in fact set up the right conditions for their affair to take place. Many affairs may rooted in a lack of common sense as opposed to a lack of love. That being said I agree with you that many of us are flawed and dont seem to grasp what love is in its entirety not just in terms of faithfulness but all the other love components.
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flowerforyou peggy122

eh! The context is perfect to what I view as a simple problem.

I have e-mailed the above to myself, so it may be passed on to friends when needed.:angel:






Well i am glad if it is of any help Doug :smile:

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Sun 01/17/16 01:01 PM
Thanks peggy122

eh! I wear very dark glasses, but will help others :angel:

peggy122's photo
Sun 01/17/16 01:08 PM

Thanks peggy122

eh! I wear very dark glasses, but will help others :angel:


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