Topic: Democratic Socialism At Its Finest
Conrad_73's photo
Sat 03/19/16 10:52 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-16/venezuela-to-shut-down-for-a-week-as-electricity-crisis-mounts


Rock's photo
Sun 03/20/16 05:14 PM
The fools will never learn.

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Sun 03/20/16 10:50 PM
Democratic Socialism At Its Finest ...Venezuela...electricity crisis...

I don't think it has much to do with socialism or democratic socialism.

What's happening in Venezuela, based on the story, has happened in the U.S.

New York has dealt with similar problems, and most notably the California electricity crisis around the turn of the century where they had rolling brown/black outs, oh wait, California, need to be PC...I mean wheelie capable electro-american growth opportunities.

SOSDD

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 03/21/16 02:00 AM

Democratic Socialism At Its Finest ...Venezuela...electricity crisis...

I don't think it has much to do with socialism or democratic socialism.

What's happening in Venezuela, based on the story, has happened in the U.S.

New York has dealt with similar problems, and most notably the California electricity crisis around the turn of the century where they had rolling brown/black outs, oh wait, California, need to be PC...I mean wheelie capable electro-american growth opportunities.

SOSDD


you might want to look at all those other fine Venezuelan features,like Foodrationing,etc!
Electricity is just a part of the whole mess!

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Mon 03/21/16 07:38 AM


Democratic Socialism At Its Finest ...Venezuela...electricity crisis...

I don't think it has much to do with socialism or democratic socialism.

What's happening in Venezuela, based on the story, has happened in the U.S.

New York has dealt with similar problems, and most notably the California electricity crisis around the turn of the century where they had rolling brown/black outs, oh wait, California, need to be PC...I mean wheelie capable electro-american growth opportunities.

SOSDD


you might want to look at all those other fine Venezuelan features,like Foodrationing,etc!
Electricity is just a part of the whole mess!


and no toilet paper laugh

Rock's photo
Mon 03/21/16 06:47 PM
Edited by Rock on Mon 03/21/16 06:49 PM
In the 1950s,
The world began to see socialism for what it is.
A big bag o' crap.

In the interim, it's been packaged, repackaged, relabeled,
and even renamed. "Progressive". It's had many buyers.
Many fools fall for it.

Socialism, gift wrapped with a pretty bow.
In 2016, socialism is still just that same ol'
Big Bag o' Crap.

Kindlightheart's photo
Mon 03/21/16 07:20 PM
Frankly I can't understand the mind set of a billionaire...I will never be wealthy cause I am the type to just give it away...but I do believe people should earn it...I believe we need some way of helping "genuine" struggling people...and the idea of socialism has its appeal...but it would be impossible to pull it off in the US...like all the sudden our crooked little DC will work together for the people..hahahahaslapheadflowerforyou

motorcycleman72's photo
Tue 03/22/16 07:54 PM
America was founded upon free market capitalism and individualism. Socialism has no place in our society no matter how hard our modern day mainstream two party system tries to force it on us. Stealing from one party to give to another, regardless of reason, is wrong; plain and simple. Please understand that.

metalwing's photo
Tue 03/22/16 09:28 PM
Money for nothing and your chicks for free!!

Kindlightheart's photo
Tue 03/22/16 11:04 PM

America was founded upon free market capitalism and individualism. Socialism has no place in our society no matter how hard our modern day mainstream two party system tries to force it on us. Stealing from one party to give to another, regardless of reason, is wrong; plain and simple. Please understand that.
...I really understand that Socialism is not a good thing..but like a lot of people, I don't think things are working well as is..but this election is going to be interesting near its end...a lot of people see the "free" life as better then what they have..and most employers aren't out for the workers best interest ..guess we gotta wait till the end and just ride with what the elite decide what's best...spock

metalwing's photo
Wed 03/23/16 02:00 AM
Edited by metalwing on Wed 03/23/16 02:05 AM
Unless our country comes to grips with the actual "cost" of twenty trillion dollars of debt, the party is about to be over. Our debt ratio is approaching Greece's.

There used to be a tradeoff for having a government job, lower wage but high job security. Now the government jobs pay more than equivalent free market jobs, and welfare is being provided for non-citizens.

The reason the US dollar is worth a dollar that it is a benchmark for the value of foreign crude oil (petrodollars) which is sold around the world. There are many reasons that the trend is to switch to Chinese, Euro, or even Russian currency. Without the oil support, the US dollar will crash in value, interest rates will skyrocket, and personal savings accounts will lose major value.

When real interest rates rise to, say ten percent, see how much interest the US will pay on 20 trillion. It's two trillion a year.

The budget pie!



Now take two trillion and see where it fits in the pie above.

Additional facts: Debt is expected to reach 24 trillion before anything can be done to stop it. Hillery wants to grow it.



Now see where ten percent falls in debt ridden countries.

motorcycleman72's photo
Wed 03/23/16 10:27 PM


America was founded upon free market capitalism and individualism. Socialism has no place in our society no matter how hard our modern day mainstream two party system tries to force it on us. Stealing from one party to give to another, regardless of reason, is wrong; plain and simple. Please understand that.
...I really understand that Socialism is not a good thing..but like a lot of people, I don't think things are working well as is..but this election is going to be interesting near its end...a lot of people see the "free" life as better then what they have..and most employers aren't out for the workers best interest ..guess we gotta wait till the end and just ride with what the elite decide what's best...spock

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Wed 03/23/16 10:49 PM
Socialism is the road to communism via a complete depletion on an economic system that was made to run as a free market. Yes you are right that things aren't working well as they are; and THAT is DIRECTLY due to govt interference with the free market itself. Get enough people to suck from the govt nipple and BELIEVE themselves to be "victims" of their employers(instead of being grateful for their employment), and you can buy lots of votes with other people's money. Union thugs bite the hand that feeds you until that hand feeds you no more; then whine, cry, and sue your boss for shutting down after you caused him / her to go out of business. Funny how socialism used to be viewed as a negative, yet now it is openly embraced as the norm. How quickly people forget about the socialist path that many have followed right into the hands of full dictatorship. Yes, my friend you can sit back and throw your hands up as the 'elite' decide for you; or throw your vote away to a third party in protest. Maybe that third party won't win; but better to try, than to go willingly along with the destruction of our beloved nation. Our forefathers had a wonderful vision for this beautiful land and its occupants. Many brave men and women have fought and paid the ultimate price for our freedoms as individuals. How sad that those of us with real sense are sinking with a ship that we didn't put the holes in. My hope is that some day before we go over the brink, people snap out of their brain dead state of coma and see the light. LiberTARIANism is the way. Please do NOT confuse this with LiberALism by mainstream terminology. LiberTARIANs are only liberAL on social issues, yet conservative on govt issues. Socialism is wrong on EVERY level, no matter how you slice or sugar coat it.

Robxbox73's photo
Wed 03/23/16 11:21 PM
You know what is really spooky about democratic socialism? our youth. They are flocking to it. They don't care that Berne doesn't have a chance. Where frustrated scared slaphead is this trend similar? Europe. We see what is going on right now with them hiding ISIS in their midst. Now they are paying for it. I'm remembering my political science professor stating" democratic socialism works,,,, (long pause) on paper. Venezuela is definitely headed to implosion. Our grid needs a major overhaul. We saw rolling blackouts in California in the 90's and 2k's. With our deficit, do you really think we will get to it? The future of our country is the darkest I've seen in my time. Our youth is coming up, leaning to democratic socialism. My golden years? Yea right.

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Wed 03/23/16 11:56 PM
Edited by SCB27769 on Wed 03/23/16 11:57 PM
Question, if I may...Where does this leave people like me who MUST rely on such things as SSI, Medicaid, etc. for income because of job loss, disability, whatever? What's gonna become of us? I don't mean to come off impertinent, ladies and gentlemen, but damn it I WANT A JOB! WHY DO I HAVE TO SETTLE FOR SOCIALISM?! I DON'T WANT MORE GOVERNMENT DECIDING FOR ME WHETHER OR NOT I'LL EVER WORK AND IF I DO, WHAT JOBS I WILL OR WILL NOT WORK!! I'M SICK OF LIVING AT HOME WITH MY MOM AND DAD (GOD BLESS THEM, PLEASE)! I'M SICK OF THERE NOT BEING ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ME!! I'M B*TCHIN' MAD THAT THE ONLY WAY IS TO GO INTO $100,000 OR MORE INTO DEBT TO GO TO COLLEGE, LEARN SKILLS THAT I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE DUE TO A LACK OF JOBS IN THE CHOSEN FIELD AND BE FORCED TO EITHER DO MENIAL LABOR OR MOVE BACK IN WITH MOM AND DAD!!!!

My mom is sick with cancer, and although she'll likely get through it, a time WILL come when she'll die and I won't have her support any more!

I wish someone would listen to me and HELP ME OUT HERE!!! I'm tired of yelling so much! I'm going hoarse and driving my blood pressure up!mad frustrated