"Part of what certainly influenced me" to support the Iraq war was George Bush pledging billions to rebuild New York after 9/11 a year before her vote, Hillary Clinton said last night. The comment is getting a lot of attention: folks are asking whether Hillary Clinton got bribed to support the Iraq war.

Last night on MSNBC, Chris Matthews quizzed the former secretary of state and NY senator about why she supported the war in Iraq, and Bernie Sanders didn't. And she said they came to the issue from different perspectives. "Why was Bernie Sanders right and you were wrong?" Matthews asked. "What do you think was in him that allowed him to see what you couldn't see?" Clinton said:

Clinton: Look, that was a mistake and I've said it was a mistake. And I had good friends like Vice President Biden who were with me, and I had good friends who were on the other side. And I think part of what certainly influenced me is after 9/11 you know I went to New York with Chuck Schumer, the next day, my fellow senator. We were the only plane in the sky and we flew over Ground Zero and we saw the devastation, and we were briefed fully on all of the threats that were still out there.

We get back to Washington I go and see then Senator Byrd, get him to commit to helping New York. Because the first request out of the White House was for 20 billion dollars for the Pentagon, for Homeland Security. Not a penny for New York. So I went and said, Look we have to get money for New York.

When I went to the White House, there were about four of us senators, the two from Virginia, the two of us from New York And I knew that the Republicans in the White House and in the Senate didn't want to rebuild New York or at least they weren't willing to put money into it. So I'm sitting there in the Oval Office, and Bush says to me, 'What do you need?' And I said, 'I need $20 billion to rebuild, you know, New York,' and he said, 'You got it.' And he was good to his word.

So my experience with him on something of great import to our country was positive. Because literally, that same day, I get back to the Capitol, and the Republicans are trying to take that money away. We kept calling the White House, Bush kept saying, "I gave them my word, I'm going to stick with it."

So, you know, I had a different set of experiences.

Matthews said, "But you know we have 100,000 people dead in Iraq because of that war. We invaded." Matthews then quizzed Clinton about why she is so keen on "constantly" knocking off regimes in the Middle East....


Comment: There are over a million dead in Iraq because of the US invasion, and Clinton says she supported it because Bush promised her money to rebuild New York City? That's not a 'different set of experiences', that's a bribe. This woman isn't a presidential candidate, she's an international war criminal.

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

Quotes and Facts on Iraq


"Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price."

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
During an interview on CBS Evening News with Dan Rather
September 13, 2001

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html#Sw8leOyTFo

http://www.wavsource.com/news/20010911a.htm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DbYGYiGjpUs

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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.

This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
Addressing the US Senate
October 10, 2002

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html#Ze0sYbagHe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html

I can see her point.
But mostly because the politician perspective is one of a scumbag.

When normal people have friends and family, and those friends and family give rides to the airport, help with work, help move, hang out, buy christmas presents, listen and offer encouragement during breakups, are considered nice, there's positive association with them, that they're good so their decisions and opinions are good, you don't question every single thing they do, some stranger comes to you and says your mom is a murderer you don't rush home and citizen arrest her.

It's why so many women believe men and women can be "just friends."
"They never try to have sex with me, and they're nice, and they talk to me, and I feel safe, and they help me without expecting anything, therefore their motives MUST be pure, and they're good, so they're good people, so I'm not going to pick apart every little tiny thing they do to figure out if they're just hiding wanting to have sex with me, I'm not going to stiffen up when they tell a dirty joke thinking it's innuendo."

Politicians only have money and law.
They don't have rides to the airport, or hanging out, or team building exercises, or helping each other move, or long talks and emotional support and validation.

All they have in their world is did you support their bill? Law? Did you help them get money for their state? Are you trying to take over my job or get me kicked out?
If they did those "good" things for you, then they MUST be good people, they MUST be making good decisions, they MUST be right, they MUST not be trying to have sex with me or unjustly going to war, they MUST be making the right decision based on the intel.

Because the alternative is allllll those other politicians who aren't helping with support, not helping with money, not helping maintain power and position, setting up investigations into email servers, those are "bad" people so their decisions should be picked apart, not those of the "good" ones.


So, I think I can understand what she's trying to say, she supported Bush and the war because she thought he was one of the "good ones," but it still shows what the system has done to her and how horrible it is.Not to mention its limitations due to the fallibility of human nature.