We can relax and just accept?

I believe in context a judgement is either making a decision about something or serving a punishment for something

the latter of which is supposed to be reserved for the justice system and God,, but the former we cannot get through life without


we must make decisions to function, what is safe, what is not safe, what is 'good' what is not 'good', what is honest or dishonest, what is practical or not practical,, and on and on and on'



I believe judgemental is a term adopted to be something bad automatically, but for me its only bad based upon the place it comes from''


for instance, If I tell my kid , you should get more rest because you look tired,,,that comes from a place of love and concern with no desire to berate them or place myself superior to them'


if some spoiled teen tells the shy kid, you should be getting more rest because you look like crap,,,,,,thats from a place of pure desire to berate and belittle and make the spoiled teen feel superior,,,

that's the judgemental that should be discouraged,, but today, any opinion, however earnest and non ego centric, is labeled judgmental by whichever group that the opinion is espoused of

...hypothetically speaking...if I was to say ...I feel abortion is wrong...would be my opinion...if I was to say...I understand you had an abortion...that's wrong...that's judgmental...or..I choose to be a Christian because I feel they are right...opinion...all Muslims are wrong...judgment or...women sure are pretty in bikinis...opinion...women in bikinis are ho's...judgment...but then I guess I am judging that my opinion is correct...hmmmm..lol

I feel a persons opinion crosses the line between passionate and personal when you slate the other person.

There is no excuse for nastiness, strong words can be said with love and kindness too

Accept what beach?

Accept what beach?

I agree. Directing insulting insulting words at another person's opinion or actions when expressing one's own opinion does indeed come across as judgmental

as the phrase goes.. Opinions are like azzholes, everyones got one.
or turn this one.. You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people, some of the time.. (something like that.)..

I guess all we can do is try to be respectful of other people's opinions and choices while we articulate our contrasting views. Some will still be offended but at least we would have done our part.

you live way too far from me but I found your question interesting. the difference between opinionated and judgemental is whenever the opinionAted individual in question believes and no opinion or preference other than their own deserves validation or thought or just thought of as wrong in its entirety by said individual. damn good question that was fun.

and as far as the judgement as too judgemental. I find people take less offense when you use the word critique. but I suppose that ties ride along with the word opinion which is open to interpretation individually in reference to any one person.

Wow! This makes absolute sense! I think you might be on to something here. The people who dismiss everyone else's opinion as wrong or inferior do come across as imperious and judgmental

I hear what you are saying Ms H .

I agree with you that intentions make a huge difference in terms of whether you end up being judgmental or not.

But dont you think a person can be unaware of their judgmental behaviour?

Sometimes people with good intentions geuinely feel that their choices and opinions are right and superior, and deem other opinion or choices as wrong or inferior as opposed to just being different.

Hi kindlightheart :)

I was thinking about what you said ,.and i think one aspect of being judgmental, is making a harsh general judgment without taking their unique circumstances into consideration . In some cases, the judmental person makes a lot of negative assumptions without even investigating a person's overall circumstances or nature

You form an opinion based on observing, thinking about something, and experience.
As such, it shouldn't be hurtful to anyone, because it isn't. It's about how you yourself view things.

Judgement is an opinion with value added to it, your own value that is. That can make it more personal to both the 'judge' and the 'judged', and thus result in upset people.

KindLightheart gave good examples :)

It is "Passionate Personal Opinion" when one agrees with it.

It is "Passing Judgment" when one disagrees with it.

Hi David :)

Not sure if I agree with you there. Two of the posters in this thread have inspired me to think that being judgmental has more of a " My opinion or choices are right or superior and yours are wrong and inferior "....as opposed to just acknowledging the other opinion as different as your own.

I can disagree with someone's opinion without berating their opinin as inferior

I think the goal we might want to aim for is mutual respect :)

Is that your passionate personal opinion, or are you passing judgment?

We are all going to have different takes on what constitutes being judgmental and i think at the end of the day , many people are going to feel that they are being judged harshly once their opinion or decisions are criticised in anyway regardless of the "opiniator's " intentions or tones.

i agree with you that judgment is an opinion with a value attached, but I think the judgmental part who is to say in certain situations if one person's value is right and the other person's value is wrong.

For eg ., my fundamental religious beliefs are christian based but some of my closest friends are muslim , hindu ,agnostic and aetheist which are vastly different from my own beliefs

In fact , according to the bible of my religion , some of my friends beliefs are deemed as wrong.

But when we have discussions , i usually tell them my bible judges some of their beliefs as wrong . but I understand and respect why they believe what they believe . And their religion also condemns some of my beliefs as wrong but they also repect what i beleve and why i believe in it.

Them believing a different truth to mine doesnt make their beliefs inferior or invalid.

I am inclined to believe that although a judgment is an opinion with value attached to it that we can be careful about assessing a different value system as wring or inferior when it nay dimply just be different

Opinion/Judgement. The Difference?
An *opinion*[irregardless of how much passion is or is not involved] is always fluid & open to investigation & change . A *judgement* implies that some sort of "conclusion" has been realized based upon the information revealed by proper investigation, study, or research.

Haha. That was a passionate personal opion . As far as I know , I didn't make your idea sound inferior to mine.