Topic: Katie Couric's Producers Repeatedly Broke Federal Gun Laws
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Sat 06/04/16 12:56 PM

Katie Couric's Producers Repeatedly Broke Federal Gun Laws

Stephanie Soechtig, the producer of Katie Couric's anti-gun documentary, admitted on camera that her team illegally purchased guns across state lines.

Soechtig’s employee, acting on her orders, repeatedly violated federal gun laws. And he did so not just because of his own monumental ignorance, but because of the aggressive ignorance of Stephanie Soechtig, Katie Couric’s hand-picked producer, director, and writer of the anti-gun documentary.

Soechtig’s chest-thumping ignorance and arrogance on display in that interview–“Legally. Like, this is legal.”–are a perfect example of why so many gun owners care so little about the opinions of sanctimonious gun controllers. Because they have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. They don’t understand how guns work. They don’t understand crime statistics. They don’t know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. And they can’t even deign to spend 5 minutes researching actual gun laws before declaring that those laws just aren’t sufficient.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/03/katie-courics-anti-gun-producers-repeatedly-violated-federal-gun-laws/

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Sat 06/04/16 01:01 PM
where are the Indictments,quarter-Million Dollar Fines and ten year prison Sentences?

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Sat 06/04/16 01:17 PM

where are the Indictments,quarter-Million Dollar Fines and ten year prison Sentences?


In the liberal justice system?

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Sat 06/04/16 01:32 PM


where are the Indictments,quarter-Million Dollar Fines and ten year prison Sentences?


In the liberal justice system?
bigsmile

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Sat 06/04/16 02:34 PM
Topic: Katie Couric Edited Pro-Gun Activists
http://m.mingle2.com/topic/show/484390/

Topic: Ex President Bill Clinton & "Orgy Island"
http://m.mingle2.com/topic/show/482521/
"Beyond the powerful couple, (Clintons). Epstein is linked to other well-known public figures such as former Clinton Press Secretary George Stephanopoulos, Britain’s Prince Andrew, TV personality Katie Couric, actor Kevin Spacey, and filmmaker Woody Allen."

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Sat 06/04/16 03:34 PM
I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.


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Sat 06/04/16 11:47 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/04/16 11:58 PM

I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.



Yeah,right!ohwell whoa spock


Katie Couric's Producers Repeatedly Broke Federal Gun Laws

Stephanie Soechtig, the producer of Katie Couric's anti-gun documentary, admitted on camera that her team illegally purchased guns across state lines.

Soechtig’s employee, acting on her orders, repeatedly violated federal gun laws. And he did so not just because of his own monumental ignorance, but because of the aggressive ignorance of Stephanie Soechtig, Katie Couric’s hand-picked producer, director, and writer of the anti-gun documentary.

Soechtig’s chest-thumping ignorance and arrogance on display in that interview–“Legally. Like, this is legal.”–are a perfect example of why so many gun owners care so little about the opinions of sanctimonious gun controllers. Because they have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. They don’t understand how guns work. They don’t understand crime statistics. They don’t know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. And they can’t even deign to spend 5 minutes researching actual gun laws before declaring that those laws just aren’t sufficient.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/03/katie-courics-anti-gun-producers-repeatedly-violated-federal-gun-laws/
Read the whole Article,Igor!grumble

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Sat 06/04/16 11:57 PM
Katie Couric’s Anti-Gun Producers Repeatedly Violated Federal Gun Laws
Stephanie Soechtig, the producer of Katie Couric's anti-gun documentary, admitted on camera that her team illegally purchased guns across state lines.

Katie Couric’s Anti-Gun Producers Repeatedly Violated Federal Gun Laws
Stephanie Soechtig, the producer of Katie Couric's anti-gun documentary, admitted on camera that her team illegally purchased guns across state lines.




SOECHTIG: We sent a producer out and he was from Colorado. He went to Arizona, and he was able to buy a Bushmaster and then three other pistols without a background check in a matter of four hours. And that’s perfectly legal. He wasn’t doing some sort of underground market.

[..]

And he just met someone in the parking lot of Wendy’s and bought a Bushmaster. Legally. Like, this is legal.

Except it’s not legal. Like, it’s illegal. Super duper illegal. Quadruple illegal in the case of the Soechtig employee who purchased four firearms across state lines without processing the sale through a federal firearms licensee (FFL) in his home state of Colorado.

Federal law is abundantly clear on what types of transactions require federal background checks. Gun owners tend to understand these laws incredibly well. Gun controllers like Soechtig do not. Under federal law, all gun purchases from an FFL must be accompanied by a federal background check. It doesn’t matter if the FFL sells a gun at a retail location, at a gun show, or out of the back of a car in a Wendy’s parking lot. All FFL transactions require a federal background check. It doesn’t matter who you are or where you’re from: if you buy a gun from an FFL, the FFL must confirm that you have passed a federal background check.

Next we have interstate purchases, all of which must be conducted through an FFL in the buyer’s home state. It is illegal to purchase a gun across state lines unless the transaction is processed through an FFL in the buyer’s home state. And what did we just learn about all FFL purchases? That they require federal background checks. Ergo, all interstate purchases must be accompanied by federal background checks.

What does that mean? It means that a producer who resides in Colorado cannot legally buy a gun in Arizona unless that gun is shipped to an FFL in Colorado, whereby that FFL confirms that the Colorado resident can legally own that firearm. The Colorado resident who bought the gun from someone in Arizona cannot take possession of that gun until the Colorado FFL receives the gun from Arizona and confirms that the Colorado buyer can legally own that weapon. Once that happens, the Colorado FFL would transfer possession of the gun to the Colorado buyer.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives even has a handy FAQ on its website which directly answers the question of whether you can buy a gun across state lines:

How may an unlicensed person receive a firearm in his or her State that he or she purchased from an out–of–State source?

An unlicensed person who is not prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms may purchase a firearm from an out–of–State source, provided the transfer takes place through a Federal firearms licensee in his or her State of residence.

[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3); 27 CFR 478.29]

But that’s not what happened according to Soechtig’s very own testimony. According to Soechtig, she gave direct orders to an employee of hers who lives in Colorado to buy some guns in Arizona without undergoing a federal background check. He then acted on those orders, and, according to Soechtig’s own admission, proceeded to illegally purchase four separate firearms from a seller in Arizona. And if he was purchasing the guns for Soechtig rather than himself, you can add illegal straw purchases to the list of federal crimes.

Soechtig’s employee, acting on her orders, repeatedly violated federal gun laws. And he did so not just because of his own monumental ignorance, but because of the aggressive ignorance of Stephanie Soechtig, Katie Couric’s hand-picked producer, director, and writer of the anti-gun documentary.

Soechtig’s chest-thumping ignorance and arrogance on display in that interview–“Legally. Like, this is legal.”–are a perfect example of why so many gun owners care so little about the opinions of sanctimonious gun controllers. Because they have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about. They don’t understand how guns work. They don’t understand crime statistics. They don’t know the difference between semi-automatic and automatic. And they can’t even deign to spend 5 minutes researching actual gun laws before declaring that those laws just aren’t sufficient.

The one thing gun controllers all agree on, however, is that strong enforcement of commonsense gun laws is key to preventing senseless gun violence. Katie Couric, Stephanie Soechtig, and their entire anti-gun documentary team now have a chance to put their money where their mouths are. If enforcement of federal gun laws is essential to preventing gun violence, then Soechtig and her team must pay the price for their willful and admitted violations of federal gun laws.

When Soechtig and her team plea to federal charges for violating the nation’s commonsense gun laws, we’ll know they’re serious about cutting down on gun crime. Until then, we’ll know they’re just a bunch of ignorant, gun-trafficking profiteers who want to take away our rights while they violate with absolute impunity the very laws they demand.

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Sun 06/05/16 04:49 AM
Isn't the whole point of an expose, to do things like this to show that more is needed?

What makes no sense in what's being said here, is that the people who are complaining about laws being broken, seem to be oblivious to the fact that they were being broken as part of the expose.

The point was, NOT to buy guns, the point was to show that the "common sense" existing laws weren't being obeyed by the people selling the guns.

They were SUPPOSED to conduct checks to prevent the guns from being sold illegally, and they did not.

If you want everyone who broke the laws to be punished that's fine, just realize that that means that all the SELLERS will get their licenses yanked, an be jailed as well.

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Sun 06/05/16 06:44 AM

Isn't the whole point of an expose, to do things like this to show that more is needed?

What makes no sense in what's being said here, is that the people who are complaining about laws being broken, seem to be oblivious to the fact that they were being broken as part of the expose.

The point was, NOT to buy guns, the point was to show that the "common sense" existing laws weren't being obeyed by the people selling the guns.

They were SUPPOSED to conduct checks to prevent the guns from being sold illegally, and they did not.

If you want everyone who broke the laws to be punished that's fine, just realize that that means that all the SELLERS will get their licenses yanked, an be jailed as well.


When you find that guy at Wendy's, let us know!

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Sun 06/05/16 07:22 AM
Edited by Manchuro on Sun 06/05/16 07:24 AM

Isn't the whole point of an expose, to do things like this to show that more is needed?

What makes no sense in what's being said here, is that the people who are complaining about laws being broken, seem to be oblivious to the fact that they were being broken as part of the expose.

The point was, NOT to buy guns, the point was to show that the "common sense" existing laws weren't being obeyed by the people selling the guns.

They were SUPPOSED to conduct checks to prevent the guns from being sold illegally, and they did not.

If you want everyone who broke the laws to be punished that's fine, just realize that that means that all the SELLERS will get their licenses yanked, an be jailed as well.


I can go downtown and buy an automatic machine gun if I put word on the street. Out of the back of a trunk. When are people like you going to stop seeing the world through childrens eyes?

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Sun 06/05/16 07:23 AM

Isn't the whole point of an expose, to do things like this to show that more is needed?

What makes no sense in what's being said here, is that the people who are complaining about laws being broken, seem to be oblivious to the fact that they were being broken as part of the expose.

The point was, NOT to buy guns, the point was to show that the "common sense" existing laws weren't being obeyed by the people selling the guns.

They were SUPPOSED to conduct checks to prevent the guns from being sold illegally, and they did not.

If you want everyone who broke the laws to be punished that's fine, just realize that that means that all the SELLERS will get their licenses yanked, an be jailed as well.

you REALLY need to read that Article!slaphead

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Sun 06/05/16 09:06 AM

I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.




If you watch the video Katie Couric’s producer CLEARLY states what they did is "Perfectly Legal".....for a person from one state to go to another state and buy a gun out of the trunk of another person without a background check.

I guess YOU don't get what the point of this thread or the article.....Katie Couric’s producer THOUGHT they were doing something legal when in fact it wasn't and that because of their IGNORANCE THEY broke a law.

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Sun 06/05/16 09:12 AM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sun 06/05/16 09:18 AM


I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.




If you watch the video Katie Couric’s producer CLEARLY states what they did is "Perfectly Legal".....for a person from one state to go to another state and buy a gun out of the trunk of another person without a background check.

I guess YOU don't get what the point of this thread or the article.....Katie Couric’s producer THOUGHT they were doing something legal when in fact it wasn't and that because of their IGNORANCE THEY broke a law.


Again, if i isn't legal to BUY the guns, then it isn't legal to SELL THEM.

If you read the posted article, it SAYS THAT.

Ironically, it also claims

Gun owners tend to understand these laws incredibly well.


and then blithely goes on to describe how these same wonderful gun owners, completely IGNORED the laws they supposedly "understand incredibly well."


That's the thing about trying to get self-righteous about this in a one-sided way. You can't do that, AND take only the "I hate Couric" side, as is being done both in this thread, and in the article cited.

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Sun 06/05/16 09:27 AM



I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.




If you watch the video Katie Couric’s producer CLEARLY states what they did is "Perfectly Legal".....for a person from one state to go to another state and buy a gun out of the trunk of another person without a background check.

I guess YOU don't get what the point of this thread or the article.....Katie Couric’s producer THOUGHT they were doing something legal when in fact it wasn't and that because of their IGNORANCE THEY broke a law.


Again, if i isn't legal to BUY the guns, then it isn't legal to SELL THEM.

If you read the posted article, it SAYS THAT.

Ironically, it also claims

Gun owners tend to understand these laws incredibly well.


and then blithely goes on to describe how these same wonderful gun owners, completely IGNORED the laws they supposedly "understand incredibly well."


That's the thing about trying to get self-righteous about this in a one-sided way. You can't do that, AND take only the "I hate Couric" side, as is being done both in this thread, and in the article cited.

Only ones who broke the Law are the Couric-Crew and their Strawbuyers!
Apparently you still haven't read the Article!

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Sun 06/05/16 09:36 AM



I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.




If you watch the video Katie Couric’s producer CLEARLY states what they did is "Perfectly Legal".....for a person from one state to go to another state and buy a gun out of the trunk of another person without a background check.

I guess YOU don't get what the point of this thread or the article.....Katie Couric’s producer THOUGHT they were doing something legal when in fact it wasn't and that because of their IGNORANCE THEY broke a law.


Again, if i isn't legal to BUY the guns, then it isn't legal to SELL THEM.

If you read the posted article, it SAYS THAT.

Ironically, it also claims

Gun owners tend to understand these laws incredibly well.


and then blithely goes on to describe how these same wonderful gun owners, completely IGNORED the laws they supposedly "understand incredibly well."


That's the thing about trying to get self-righteous about this in a one-sided way. You can't do that, AND take only the "I hate Couric" side, as is being done both in this thread, and in the article cited.


I'm not being "self-righteous", I don't "hat Couric", I didn't say the seller isn't also guilty of breaking a law. People knowingly break laws they "understand incredibly well"...and yes that includes some gun owners.


You on the other hand are trying to defend what Couric's producer did by redefining what their obvious intent was.....to show how it's LEGAL to cross state lines and buy guns without a background check. IT'S NOT LEGAL.

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Sun 06/05/16 09:43 AM




I guess you guys don't get that the point of doing this, was to show how the laws in question were being ignored by the gun sellers.

This is similar to the way that people are demonstrating that TSA screeners are failing in their jobs.




If you watch the video Katie Couric’s producer CLEARLY states what they did is "Perfectly Legal".....for a person from one state to go to another state and buy a gun out of the trunk of another person without a background check.

I guess YOU don't get what the point of this thread or the article.....Katie Couric’s producer THOUGHT they were doing something legal when in fact it wasn't and that because of their IGNORANCE THEY broke a law.


Again, if i isn't legal to BUY the guns, then it isn't legal to SELL THEM.

If you read the posted article, it SAYS THAT.

Ironically, it also claims

Gun owners tend to understand these laws incredibly well.


and then blithely goes on to describe how these same wonderful gun owners, completely IGNORED the laws they supposedly "understand incredibly well."


That's the thing about trying to get self-righteous about this in a one-sided way. You can't do that, AND take only the "I hate Couric" side, as is being done both in this thread, and in the article cited.

Only ones who broke the Law are the Couric-Crew and their Strawbuyers!
Apparently you still haven't read the Article!


If the seller knowingly sold the guns to an out of state buyer they also broke the law. The transfer of ownership of a gun to a person from another state must go through someone or a dealer with a FFL in the state that the purchaser resides. Ammunition must go through a FFL holder too.