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Topic: Lynch Closes Door on Clinton Investigation After Meeting Wit
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Wed 07/06/16 03:36 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/06/clinton-email-investigation-to-be-closed-with-no-criminal-charges-lynch-announces.html?intcmp=hpbt1

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Wed 07/06/16 07:08 PM
Not really much in the OP.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/06/clinton-email-investigation-to-be-closed-with-no-criminal-charges-lynch-announces.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Lynch Closes Door on Clinton Investigation

It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.

But there's not a lot of actual meaningful information anywhere so you just get recycled information like in this fox news story.

A news article I'd want to read would be like:
"Lynch closes Clinton email investigation with no charges.
Lynch notes the legal threshold for proof has to show gross negligence or criminal intent.
There was no criminal intent. No evidence was found of selling or distributing sensitive information for the sake of causing harm to the U.S. or to the benefit of enemies.
Legally, gross negligence must be proven in order to violate the law. Lynch states only ordinary negligence was shown which doesn't cross the legal threshold for pursuing criminal charges.
Lynch notes that refusing to prosecute doesn't validate Clinton's actions or prove she did nothing wrong, her decision was based solely on the failure of how the allegedly violated law was written which is (x)."

That would be worth reading.
Fox news generally isn't.

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Wed 07/06/16 07:22 PM
It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.


It would be nice if people put a pic up & more people make threads, instead of jumping on any OP they can because, they don't like the topic nor... have the gonads or the ovaries to make their own threads... But expect to be entertained.

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Wed 07/06/16 07:40 PM
Not really much in the OP.
Well thats just your opinion

It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.
If you're feeling froggy, by all means, jump.


That would be worth reading.
Fox news generally isn't.
This thread was worthy enough for you to type out all that bs before this particular quote.

And for $hits n giggles.....

http://vid.me/IDQE

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Wed 07/06/16 08:11 PM
Not really much in the OP.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/06/clinton-email-investigation-to-be-closed-with-no-criminal-charges-lynch-announces.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Lynch Closes Door on Clinton Investigation

It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.

But there's not a lot of actual meaningful information anywhere so you just get recycled information like in this fox news story.

A news article I'd want to read would be like:
"Lynch closes Clinton email investigation with no charges.
Lynch notes the legal threshold for proof has to show gross negligence or criminal intent.
There was no criminal intent. No evidence was found of selling or distributing sensitive information for the sake of causing harm to the U.S. or to the benefit of enemies.
Legally, gross negligence must be proven in order to violate the law. Lynch states only ordinary negligence was shown which doesn't cross the legal threshold for pursuing criminal charges.
Lynch notes that refusing to prosecute doesn't validate Clinton's actions or prove she did nothing wrong, her decision was based solely on the failure of how the allegedly violated law was written which is (x)."

That would be worth reading.
Fox news generally isn't.


2 words

General Petraeus....

Lpdon's photo
Thu 07/07/16 01:30 AM

It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.


It would be nice if people put a pic up & more people make threads, instead of jumping on any OP they can because, they don't like the topic nor... have the gonads or the ovaries to make their own threads... But expect to be entertained.


The pictures never come up when I try to post them, and I tried to cut an paste the article but my laptop is so old, outdated and crappy that it barely runs, it freezes when I type posts on here (that is why I get spelling errors because it either freezes up on me almost every time when I am typing or I hit a key and the letter next to it comes up.

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Thu 07/07/16 01:42 AM
The Clinton Campaign leaked to the press that Hillary is planning on keeping Lynch as the Attorney General if she wins in November. Really? Bill meets with Lynch last week, right before Hillary got the special Saturday interview on one of the biggest holiday weekends by FBI Agents, but would they do that for any one of us regular people/voters? Hell now, we would have already been in jail by now!

Then there was the secret meeting between former President Clinton and Lynch less then a week before the announcement. Clinton claims he just happened to be in Arizona and at the same airport, they just happened to run into each other because he was down there to play golf, yeah sure Slick Willy!

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Thu 07/07/16 01:47 AM


It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.


It would be nice if people put a pic up & more people make threads, instead of jumping on any OP they can because, they don't like the topic nor... have the gonads or the ovaries to make their own threads... But expect to be entertained.


The pictures never come up when I try to post them, and I tried to cut an paste the article but my laptop is so old, outdated and crappy that it barely runs, it freezes when I type posts on here (that is why I get spelling errors because it either freezes up on me almost every time when I am typing or I hit a key and the letter next to it comes up.


No worries. My post was not directed at you :wink:

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Thu 07/07/16 02:04 AM

The Clinton Campaign leaked to the press that Hillary is planning on keeping Lynch as the Attorney General if she wins in November. Really? Bill meets with Lynch last week, right before Hillary got the special Saturday interview on one of the biggest holiday weekends by FBI Agents, but would they do that for any one of us regular people/voters? Hell now, we would have already been in jail by now!

Then there was the secret meeting between former President Clinton and Lynch less then a week before the announcement. Clinton claims he just happened to be in Arizona and at the same airport, they just happened to run into each other because he was down there to play golf, yeah sure Slick Willy!


http://youtu.be/87Q-GceujOA/
20:19 - RT News

Clinton hid 1000s of emails, put classified data on her server... but shouldn't be charged - FBI

Published on Jul 5, 2016

Though the FBI found that Hillary Clinton and her staff were 'extremely careless' with State Department emails hosted on a private server, 'no reasonable prosecutor' would bring criminal charges in this case, FBI Director James Comey told reporters Tuesday morning.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/7hq0/



*_RT News, did a great job laying out the time line & (these) crimes.


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Thu 07/07/16 02:31 AM

Not really much in the OP.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/06/clinton-email-investigation-to-be-closed-with-no-criminal-charges-lynch-announces.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Lynch Closes Door on Clinton Investigation

It would be nice if people posted news stories they actually contained stories worth a damn.

But there's not a lot of actual meaningful information anywhere so you just get recycled information like in this fox news story.

A news article I'd want to read would be like:
"Lynch closes Clinton email investigation with no charges.
Lynch notes the legal threshold for proof has to show gross negligence or criminal intent.
There was no criminal intent. No evidence was found of selling or distributing sensitive information for the sake of causing harm to the U.S. or to the benefit of enemies.
Legally, gross negligence must be proven in order to violate the law. Lynch states only ordinary negligence was shown which doesn't cross the legal threshold for pursuing criminal charges.
Lynch notes that refusing to prosecute doesn't validate Clinton's actions or prove she did nothing wrong, her decision was based solely on the failure of how the allegedly violated law was written which is (x)."

That would be worth reading.
Fox news generally isn't.


2 words

General Petraeus....


http://m.mingle2.com/topic/show/487130/ Petraeus' GF's computer had over 300 classified docs on it

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Thu 07/07/16 07:21 AM
Congress is going to hold a hearing where FBI Director Comey will have to explain himself and quite possibly a criminal case could come from this mess.

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Thu 07/07/16 07:59 AM
Lunch should have turned the GBI's report over to a Grand Jury and let the People decide whether the evidence is enough to take to trial.

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Thu 07/07/16 08:02 AM
a bunch of Wordplay by the FBI!

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Thu 07/07/16 08:57 AM

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Thu 07/07/16 09:12 AM
Trey Gowdy GRILLS James Comey On Hillary Clinton Emails

http://youtu.be/bC1Mc6-RDyQ/
06:05. - 7/7/16. :banana:

Hillary Clinton Email Investigation FBI Director James Comey testified at a hearing on the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email servers while serving as secretary of state, as well as the decision to not recommend criminal charges against her. Rep.Trey Gowdy (Republican) Q&A - Oversight of the State Department





* Now this guy should be running for President! Damn.. I am moving to South Carolina next. * smitten

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Thu 07/07/16 10:55 AM
I'm sure Hillary will be holding a press conference soon to answer hard hitting questions from CNN and MSNBC about her extreme carelessness she exhibited during this email fiasco.....



































......laugh wait wait wait, I can't type that with a straight face rofl rofl rofl

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Thu 07/07/16 11:39 AM
There were a few seconds of VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION presented at the congressional hearing today. When asked if the false information Clinton had given under oath was considered for perjury charges the FBI Director answered "No, it was not." He further explained that it would not be reviewed without Congressional request. The Congressman then stated "You'll have in a few days!"

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Thu 07/07/16 01:03 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Key assertions by Hillary Clinton in defense of her email practices have collapsed under FBI scrutiny.

The agency's yearlong investigation found that she did not, as she claimed, turn over all her work-related messages for release. It found that her private email server did carry classified emails, also contrary to her past statements. And it made clear that Clinton used many devices to send and receive email despite her statements that she set up her email system so that she only needed to carry one.

FBI Director James Comey's announcement Tuesday that he will not refer criminal charges to the Justice Department against Clinton spared her from prosecution and a devastating political predicament. But it left much of her account in tatters and may have aggravated questions of trust swirling around her Democratic presidential candidacy.

A look at Clinton's claims since questions about her email practices as secretary of state surfaced and how they compare with facts established in the FBI probe:


CLINTON: "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material." News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: Actually, the FBI identified at least 113 emails that passed through Clinton's server and contained materials that were classified at the time they were sent, including some that were Top Secret and referred to a highly classified special access program, Comey said.

Most of those emails — 110 of them — were included among 30,000 emails that Clinton returned to the State Department around the time her use of a private email server was discovered. The three others were recovered from a forensic analysis of Clinton's server. "Any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about the matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation," Comey said. Clinton and her aides "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," he said.

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CLINTON: "I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified." NBC interview, July 2016.

THE FACTS: Clinton has separately clung to her rationale that there were no classification markings on her emails that would have warned her and others not to transmit the sensitive material. But the private system did, in fact, handle emails that bore markings indicating they contained classified information, Comey said.

He said the marked emails were "a very small number." But that's not the only standard for judging how officials handle sensitive material, he added. "Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know, or should know, that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."

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CLINTON: "I responded right away and provided all my emails that could possibly be work related" to the State Department. News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: Not so, the FBI found.

Comey said that when his forensic team examined Clinton's server it found there were "several thousand work-related emails that were not in the group of 30,000" that had been returned by Clinton to the State Department.

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CLINTON: "I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for personal emails instead of two." News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: This reasoning for using private email both for public business and private correspondence didn't hold up in the investigation. Clinton "used numerous mobile devices to view and send email" using her personal account, Comey said. He also said Clinton had used different servers.

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CLINTON: "It was on property guarded by the Secret Service, and there were no security breaches. ... The use of that server, which started with my husband, certainly proved to be effective and secure." News conference, March 2015.

CLINTON campaign website: "There is no evidence there was ever a breach."

THE FACTS: The campaign website claimed "no evidence" of a breach, a less categorical statement than Clinton herself made last year, when she said there was no breach. The FBI did not uncover a breach but made clear that that possibility cannot be ruled out.

"We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account," Comey said.

He said evidence would be hard to find because hackers are sophisticated and can cover their tracks. Comey said his investigators learned that Clinton's security lapses included using "her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries." Comey also noted that hackers breached the email accounts of several outsiders who messaged with Clinton.

Comey did not mention names, but a Romanian hacker who called himself Guccifer accessed and later leaked emails from Sidney Blumenthal, an outside adviser to Clinton who regularly communicated with her.

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CLINTON: "I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department." News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: Comey did not address Clinton's reason for using a private server instead of a government one, but he highlighted the perils in routing sensitive information through a home server.

The FBI found that Clinton's personal server was "not even supported by full-time security staff like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government or even with a commercial email service like Gmail," the director said.

A May 2016 audit by the State Department inspector general found there was no evidence Clinton sought or received approval to operate a private server, and that she "had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices." Courts have frowned on such a practice.

In an unrelated case, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled Tuesday that the purpose of public records law is "hardly served" when a department head "can deprive the citizens of their right to know what his department is up to" by maintaining emails on a private system.

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Thu 07/07/16 01:14 PM

Trey Gowdy GRILLS James Comey On Hillary Clinton Emails

http://youtu.be/bC1Mc6-RDyQ/
06:05. - 7/7/16. :banana:

Hillary Clinton Email Investigation FBI Director James Comey testified at a hearing on the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email servers while serving as secretary of state, as well as the decision to not recommend criminal charges against her. Rep.Trey Gowdy (Republican) Q&A - Oversight of the State Department





* Now this guy should be running for President! Damn.. I am moving to South Carolina next. * smitten
Gowdy's closing comments:


""Gowdy: Consciousness of guilt and intent? In your old job you would prove intent as you referenced by showing the jury evidence of a complex scheme that was designed for the very purpose of concealing the public record and you would be arguing in addition to concealment the destruction that you and i just talked about or certainly the failure to preserve.
You would argue all of that under the heading of content. You would also — intent. You would also be arguing the pervasiveness of the scheme when it started, when it ended and the number of emails whether
They were originally classified or of classified under the heading of intent. You would also, probably, under common scheme or plan, argue the burn bags of daily calendar entries or the missing daily calendar entries as a common scheme or plan to conceal.
Two days ago, Director, you said a reasonable person in her position should have known a private email was no place to send and receive classified information. You're right. An average person does know not to do that.
This is no average person. This is a former First Lady, a former United States senator, and a former Secretary of State that the president now contends is the most competent, qualified person to be president since Jefferson. He didn't say that in '08 but says it now.
She affirmatively rejected efforts to give her a state.gov account, kept the private emails for almost two years and only turned them over to Congress because we found out she had a private email account.
So you have a rogue email system set up before she took the oath of office, thousands of what we now know to be classified emails, some of which were classified at the time. One of her more frequent email comrades was hacked and you don't know whether or not she was.
And this scheme took place over a long period of time and resulted in the destruction of public records and yet you say there is insufficient evidence of intent. You say she was extremely careless, but not intentionally so.
You and I both know intent is really difficult to prove. Very rarely do defendants announce 'On this date I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this date.'
It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence or if you're Congress and you realize how difficult it is prove, specific intent, you will form lathe a statute that allows for gross negligence.
My time is out but this is really important. You mentioned there's no precedent for criminal prosecution. My fear is there still isn't. There's nothing to keep a future Secretary of State or President from this exact same email scheme or their staff.
And my real fear is this, what the chairman touched upon, this double track justice system that is rightly or wrongly perceived in this country. That if you are a private in the Army and email yourself classified information you will be kicked out. But if you are Hillary Clinton, and you seek a promotion to Commander in Chief, you will not be. So what I hope you can do today is help the average person, the reasonable person you made reference to, the reasonable person understand why she appears to be treated differently than the rest of us would be. With that I would yield back.""

Full transcript here:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/07/rep-trey-gowdy-rips-into-fbi-director-james-comey-on-hillary-clintons-intent.html

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Thu 07/07/16 01:33 PM

I'm sure Hillary will be holding a press conference soon to answer hard hitting questions from CNN and MSNBC about her extreme carelessness she exhibited during this email fiasco.....

......laugh wait wait wait, I can't type that with a straight face rofl rofl rofl


While funny to me, its the truth....and sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from crying....

""In the wake of a recommendation by the FBI that Clinton not be charged for her use of a private email server, reporters want Hillary Clinton to speak into the microphone.
It’s been seven months since the presumptive Democratic nominee held a press conference (for comparison it’s been less than two weeks since Donald Trump had two back-to-back during a trip to Scotland.) And reporters covering the candidate are frustrated.
On Tuesday Washington Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan wrote a blistering column, calling on Clinton to hold one in the wake of the FBI’s announcement.

“Remember Fort Dodge, Iowa?
No? Well, that’s understandable. It’s been a long time — seven months — since an event in Fort Dodge that turned out to be historic: Hillary Clinton’s last news conference.
The candidate, famously opaque, answered a grand total of seven questions there on Dec. 4, 2015. Since then, although she’s given individual interviews, she hasn’t made herself available for general media questioning.
That must change, and what better moment than immediately, given the news that FBI Director James B. Comey has recommended that no charges be brought against the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.”

“Clinton owes it to the electorate not only to speak publicly about all of this but also to answer tough questions,” Sullivan wrote

This is not a new problem for Clinton. The media has been frustrated by the candidate's lack of availability for months. In June, USA TODAY editor at large and media columnist Rem Rieder challenged Clinton to “Stop avoiding reporters. Start answering their questions on a regular basis. Hold a press conference.”""
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/07/06/clinton-press-conference/86769752/

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