Topic: Bill Clinton's call for mass voter fraud
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 08/03/16 05:05 PM

Bill Clinton's call for mass voter fraud should be condemned

Illegal aliens have never had more incentives and ability to vote in our elections as they do this cycle. After being told by the globalist elite they’re illegal entry into the country is without consequence, helps rather than hinders American workers, and unites the national culture, any existing moral qualms of further violating the law, such as by voting, have been thoroughly scrubbed away. Former president Bill Clinton all but ensured this in his speech at the DNC Convention last week.

Speaking directly to illegal aliens, Clinton stated to an applauding audience of delegates that “if you love this country, you’re working hard, you’re paying taxes and you’re obeying the law and you’d like to become a citizen, you should choose immigration reform over somebody that wants to send you back.” Unfortunately for Bill, illegal aliens (and non-citizens in general) aren’t supposed to be ‘choosing’ anyone. Like in every other country in the world, here in America only citizens are supposed to vote.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/judicial/290144-bill-clintons-call-for-mass-voter-fraud-should-be-condemned

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Wed 08/03/16 05:41 PM
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Unfortunately for Bill, illegal aliens (and non-citizens in general) aren’t supposed to be ‘choosing’ anyone. Like in every other country in the world, here in America only citizens are supposed to vote.



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sparkyae5's photo
Wed 08/03/16 05:44 PM
they are liberals what did you expect?????

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Wed 08/03/16 05:52 PM
ill It makes me sick !

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Wed 08/03/16 07:03 PM
Where exactly did Mr Clinton tell people to commit fraud? You haven't shown this.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 08/03/16 07:20 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 08/03/16 07:22 PM

Where exactly did Mr Clinton tell people to commit fraud? You haven't shown this.


The article only said it was "implied" by interpretation. After all, he was addressing "illegals"

But without the requirement of voter ID voter fraud is inevitable

Seakolony's photo
Wed 08/03/16 08:46 PM
You have to prove citizenship to get a voters card. When you register at DMV you must show you birth certificate of and SSN number. Which is checked and verified through an automated system within a week at more dependent on the amount of work necessary to verify the document. I have had them come back as needed more in way of mailed paperwork which is why the week. So you check into vote and they require you license in DE both in FL, both in MD......So how would they possibly be able to get through those lower workers that have policy and procedures in order to do that in each state government..

Seakolony's photo
Wed 08/03/16 08:54 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Wed 08/03/16 08:56 PM
Oops

Seakolony's photo
Wed 08/03/16 08:54 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Wed 08/03/16 09:00 PM
:tongue: lol:smile:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 08/04/16 01:20 AM

I think it's only 23 states that require "picture" ID to vote and another 11 or so that require some sort of ID, but other states you can pull a piece of junk mail out of the garbage as long as there is an address on it and register to vote that day with it (if I have the figures right)

Some states have mail-in ballots you can pick up anywhere and fill out a dozen and mail them in. They never get qualified until after the election but are counted when processed

But all that has little to do with the electoral votes that decide elections!

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Thu 08/04/16 01:59 AM
http://www.steynonline.com/7216/the-undocumented-branch-of-the-electoral-college

> Most people are aware that the President is elected not by the popular vote but by the votes in the Electoral College. And most people are also aware that the more densely populated states have more electoral votes than smaller states: California has 55 votes, Vermont has three.

But most Americans, I would wager, assume that those proportions are based on the number of citizens in each state. Not so. As Politico reports, each state's share of the Electoral College votes is calculated by using the "whole number of persons in each state" - including those who shouldn't be there. So the more illegal immigrants you have in your state, the greater the votes you have in the Electoral College. Thus, the armies of the undocumented don't need "a pathway to citizenship" in order to change election results - or, as Politico's headline puts it, "Illegal Immigrants Could Elect Hillary":

This math gives strongly Democratic states an unfair edge in the Electoral College. Using citizen-only population statistics, American University scholar Leonard Steinhorn projects California would lose five House seats and therefore five electoral votes. New York and Washington would lose one seat, and thus one electoral vote apiece. These three states, which have voted overwhelming for Democrats over the latest six presidential elections, would lose seven electoral votes altogether.<

>California's illegal immigrants have a greater representation (five votes) in the Electoral College than my entire state (New Hampshire's four votes). Which seems a very perverse system.

So Democrats don't need to nurse illegals through to citizenship; simply moving them into California and other blue states bulks up the Electoral College math in their favor.<



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Thu 08/04/16 05:38 AM
ill It makes me sick!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 08/04/16 09:32 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 08/04/16 09:39 AM

http://www.steynonline.com/7216/the-undocumented-branch-of-the-electoral-college

> Most people are aware that the President is elected not by the popular vote but by the votes in the Electoral College. And most people are also aware that the more densely populated states have more electoral votes than smaller states: California has 55 votes, Vermont has three.

But most Americans, I would wager, assume that those proportions are based on the number of citizens in each state. Not so. As Politico reports, each state's share of the Electoral College votes is calculated by using the "whole number of persons in each state" - including those who shouldn't be there. So the more illegal immigrants you have in your state, the greater the votes you have in the Electoral College. Thus, the armies of the undocumented don't need "a pathway to citizenship" in order to change election results - or, as Politico's headline puts it, "Illegal Immigrants Could Elect Hillary":

This math gives strongly Democratic states an unfair edge in the Electoral College. Using citizen-only population statistics, American University scholar Leonard Steinhorn projects California would lose five House seats and therefore five electoral votes. New York and Washington would lose one seat, and thus one electoral vote apiece. These three states, which have voted overwhelming for Democrats over the latest six presidential elections, would lose seven electoral votes altogether.<

>California's illegal immigrants have a greater representation (five votes) in the Electoral College than my entire state (New Hampshire's four votes). Which seems a very perverse system.

So Democrats don't need to nurse illegals through to citizenship; simply moving them into California and other blue states bulks up the Electoral College math in their favor.<





Understanding that will explain the Dem stance on Sanctuary Cities and refugee placements

Few understand the total rigging of the system we live under and any who seek to educate are CT or fringe in press and social media.

Control the money, control the press, and the people will follow wherever you lead them




IgorFrankensteen's photo
Thu 08/04/16 02:38 PM


Where exactly did Mr Clinton tell people to commit fraud? You haven't shown this.


The article only said it was "implied" by interpretation. After all, he was addressing "illegals"

But without the requirement of voter ID voter fraud is inevitable


The comments as listed, say that Clinton encourages people who CAN vote, support voting rights for all CITIZENS.

Any interpretation other than that, is a straight up lie.

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Thu 08/04/16 03:15 PM



Where exactly did Mr Clinton tell people to commit fraud? You haven't shown this.


The article only said it was "implied" by interpretation. After all, he was addressing "illegals"

But without the requirement of voter ID voter fraud is inevitable


The comments as listed, say that Clinton encourages people who CAN vote, support voting rights for all CITIZENS.

Any interpretation other than that, is a straight up lie.


did you read something different than i did?

"speaking directly to illegal aliens, Clinton stated to an applauding audience of delegates that “if you love this country, you’re working hard, you’re paying taxes and you’re obeying the law and you’d like to become a citizen, you should choose immigration reform over somebody that wants to send you back.” Unfortunately for Bill, illegal aliens (and non-citizens in general) aren’t supposed to be ‘choosing’ anyone. Like in every other country in the world, here in America only citizens are supposed to vote."

if not implied, what does the above statement mean?

Seakolony's photo
Thu 08/04/16 03:23 PM
I know the Electoral College works....but the.popular vote decides the electoral vote for that state. I do not like the Electoral College. There is only one time in history where the electoral college did not match with the Electoral College. They still have to vote the will of their people in their county.