Topic: speaking of trust
scttrbrain's photo
Fri 11/09/07 09:54 AM
A FEDERAL GRAND JURY HAS VOTED TO INDICT EX-N.Y. CITY POLICE COMMISSIONER BERNARD KERIK ON CHARGES STEMMING FROM TAX EVASION AND CORRUPTION ALLEGATIONS, SOURCES TELL ABC NEWS.
This sort of thing is happening ALL the time now. I imagine we are just tipping the iceberg.
Kat

dhutch9's photo
Fri 11/09/07 10:04 AM
Former Illinois governor, George Ryan, FINALLY reported to prison yesterday for his part in the license for bribes scandal. And we wonder why people don't vote.

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 11/09/07 02:43 PM
This is exactly what is wrong with this country. We have all these cops, politicians, law makers...all breaking those very same laws. While trying to run a country. No wonder we ar seen as a corrupt nation. No wonder politicians are so filthy rich. They steal and guise it and keep the people in turmoil by feeding us propaganda enough to put people on opposite sides of the fence.
We are in need of a serious house cleaning.
Kat

mnhiker's photo
Fri 11/09/07 04:11 PM
He was the police commissioner
under Rudy Guiliani, Pat Robertson's
choice of Presidential Candidate.

I wonder what the fundamentalists
think about that? huh


mnhiker's photo
Fri 11/09/07 04:19 PM
Here's some earlier news about
Bernard Kerik, also not very flattering.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/10/politics/main660485.shtml

You have to ask yourself:
Why are people associated with
the Republican Party always being
indicted for things?

Answer: Because the Republican
Party itself is corrupt, greedy,
evil and immoral.

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 11/09/07 04:21 PM
Personally; I do not care for either one of those parties. I think they should be disbanded and start all over with only the people as voters. No parties...That is what seperates us one from another.
Kat

mnhiker's photo
Fri 11/09/07 04:26 PM
That would be a great solution,
sttrbrain.

Unfortunately, it's not going
to happen soon, not in this lifetime.

As long as money and power are
involved, there will always be
a two-party system.

What should happen is to allow
other parties (like Independents)
to be involved in debates and
the Primaries.

Unfortunately, third-parties
are shut out of the process.

This is both undemocratic and un-American.

gardenforge's photo
Fri 11/09/07 08:15 PM
mnhiker political corruption does not follow any particular party line. There is as much corruption on one side of the aisle as the other. To imply that Guiliani is corrupt because this guy was his police commissioner makes about as much sense as saying Hillary Clinton drives drunk just because Ted Kennedy did, it is assigning guilt by association and that is just wrong.

willy_cents's photo
Fri 11/09/07 08:19 PM
the quickest way to turn an honest person into a conniver, a theif, and to rob them of all their moral standards is to place them in an elective office. And the news media does all it can to enable them.mad

kidatheart70's photo
Fri 11/09/07 08:21 PM
I didn't see any implication of Rudy Guliani being guilty in his post Garden. How did you read that into it?huh