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Topic: DOES GOD EXIST ?
AlecSmart's photo
Sat 07/21/18 10:44 AM

there is ample evidence of the existence of God.

When I was a kid, I used to think that all the presents on Christmas morning was evidence of the existence of Santa.

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Sat 07/21/18 12:06 PM


there is ample evidence of the existence of God.

When I was a kid, I used to think that all the presents on Christmas morning was evidence of the existence of Santa.



That's called bias confirmation :wink:

Basha's photo
Sat 07/21/18 12:11 PM
Depends actually,
When I'm about to write my exam or receive the results?....he does and right in my heart.


Other times.....who cares~

BlakeIAM's photo
Sat 07/21/18 01:59 PM



It does exist in many people's minds, and in writings, and art, but outside of those places there is no proof of actual existence in the real world.


Bottom line it comes down to faith, but there is ample evidence of the existence of God.



If there is ample evidence for the existence of God then why doesn't everyone believe in God.If as you say the bottom line is that it comes down to faith then there isn't ample evidence.There may be circumstantial evidence which when coupled with faith will satisfy certain people.Even if one accepts that there is a God then whose version of God and what that God possibly requires of us does one accept.I notice that you are involved in several discussions with other believers and there seems to be more dissention than agreement about many things.One would think that after thousands of years of analysis that there would be more consensus among believers regarding the nuts and bolts and how the whole project fits together.It seems to me that many of your statements are very dogmatic and you provide very little evidence to support those statements.Whilst I accept that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,lack of a better explanation is not evidence of the existence of God.


Just because there is ample evidence of the existence of God does not mean that everyone will believe.
Some people just don't want to believe for various reasons.

To exercise or place faith in God does not take away from His existence, in fact it magnifies His existence that much more.

God is not plural , for there is only one God.
He expects and requires the same from everyone according to His Word .
The basics in my opinion should be common sense regarding His commands and testament.

It wouldn't be wise to formulate an opinion about God or believers regarding a dating web site where people disagree about certain subjects regarding God and His Word.
From my experience in life in general many Christians are predominantly on the same page regarding God and His Word, from creation to the crucifixion of Christ and more importantly the resurrection of Christ and life eternal.

As far as you saying that I am dogmatic and provide little evidence for the existence of God shows you know very little about me because I have provided much evidence of the existence of God outside of plain common sense.
You must not have seen those posts.
However it is not my job to prove to you or anyone concerning the existence of God.
You will either believe or disbelieve, however one day all will believe and acknowledge God and will confess with the mouth The Lord Jesus Christ.


:heart:

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Sat 07/21/18 03:26 PM




It does exist in many people's minds, and in writings, and art, but outside of those places there is no proof of actual existence in the real world.


Bottom line it comes down to faith, but there is ample evidence of the existence of God.



If there is ample evidence for the existence of God then why doesn't everyone believe in God.If as you say the bottom line is that it comes down to faith then there isn't ample evidence.There may be circumstantial evidence which when coupled with faith will satisfy certain people.Even if one accepts that there is a God then whose version of God and what that God possibly requires of us does one accept.I notice that you are involved in several discussions with other believers and there seems to be more dissention than agreement about many things.One would think that after thousands of years of analysis that there would be more consensus among believers regarding the nuts and bolts and how the whole project fits together.It seems to me that many of your statements are very dogmatic and you provide very little evidence to support those statements.Whilst I accept that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,lack of a better explanation is not evidence of the existence of God.


Just because there is ample evidence of the existence of God does not mean that everyone will believe.
Some people just don't want to believe for various reasons.

To exercise or place faith in God does not take away from His existence, in fact it magnifies His existence that much more.

God is not plural , for there is only one God.
He expects and requires the same from everyone according to His Word .
The basics in my opinion should be common sense regarding His commands and testament.

It wouldn't be wise to formulate an opinion about God or believers regarding a dating web site where people disagree about certain subjects regarding God and His Word.
From my experience in life in general many Christians are predominantly on the same page regarding God and His Word, from creation to the crucifixion of Christ and more importantly the resurrection of Christ and life eternal.

As far as you saying that I am dogmatic and provide little evidence for the existence of God shows you know very little about me because I have provided much evidence of the existence of God outside of plain common sense.
You must not have seen those posts.
However it is not my job to prove to you or anyone concerning the existence of God.
You will either believe or disbelieve, however one day all will believe and acknowledge God and will confess with the mouth The Lord Jesus Christ.


:heart:



You are correct in asserting that not everyone will believe based on evidence.We only have to look at the deniers of the holocaust to confirm that but as you say some people don't want to believe.However the vast majority accept the reality of the holocaust based on reasonable evidence.One wonders why the vast majority are not swayed by reasonable evidence regarding the existence of God.

"God is not plural for there is only one God" another dogmatic statement which denigrates the many believers in God who do not accept your God.

I agree the basics should be the same but in reality they are not.Christians and Muslims acknowledge the God of Abraham but are not on the same page about the crucifixion and resurrection or life eternal.As for the commandments supposedly written in stone,Christians can't even agree on those.
I also agree that it would be wise to form an opinion on God based on what I have read here.However my opinion is based on sixty years of experience and is not even remotely influenced by anything I have read here.I am puzzled by your statement regarding provision of evidence outside of plain common sense.You may well have provided evidence for the existence of God in posts I have not read but I don't recall any posts that even attempted to provide such evidence but as I stated absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so those posts may exist.

I accept that it is not your job to prove to me regarding the existence of God but I assume that as part of the great commission,part of it would entail proving that your God exists in the first place.I don't accept that believing or disbelieving are the only options,there are many people who declare that there is not enough evidence for them to be confident about their choice.

inexperiencedboy's photo
Tue 07/24/18 03:21 PM
can u see air ? or wind ? use ur mind to feel if GOD is exist. hope u find in ur heart. and when u feel in love. can u see what is love? but u can feel it in ur heart.

BlakeIAM's photo
Tue 07/24/18 04:16 PM





It does exist in many people's minds, and in writings, and art, but outside of those places there is no proof of actual existence in the real world.


Bottom line it comes down to faith, but there is ample evidence of the existence of God.



If there is ample evidence for the existence of God then why doesn't everyone believe in God.If as you say the bottom line is that it comes down to faith then there isn't ample evidence.There may be circumstantial evidence which when coupled with faith will satisfy certain people.Even if one accepts that there is a God then whose version of God and what that God possibly requires of us does one accept.I notice that you are involved in several discussions with other believers and there seems to be more dissention than agreement about many things.One would think that after thousands of years of analysis that there would be more consensus among believers regarding the nuts and bolts and how the whole project fits together.It seems to me that many of your statements are very dogmatic and you provide very little evidence to support those statements.Whilst I accept that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,lack of a better explanation is not evidence of the existence of God.


Just because there is ample evidence of the existence of God does not mean that everyone will believe.
Some people just don't want to believe for various reasons.

To exercise or place faith in God does not take away from His existence, in fact it magnifies His existence that much more.

God is not plural , for there is only one God.
He expects and requires the same from everyone according to His Word .
The basics in my opinion should be common sense regarding His commands and testament.

It wouldn't be wise to formulate an opinion about God or believers regarding a dating web site where people disagree about certain subjects regarding God and His Word.
From my experience in life in general many Christians are predominantly on the same page regarding God and His Word, from creation to the crucifixion of Christ and more importantly the resurrection of Christ and life eternal.

As far as you saying that I am dogmatic and provide little evidence for the existence of God shows you know very little about me because I have provided much evidence of the existence of God outside of plain common sense.
You must not have seen those posts.
However it is not my job to prove to you or anyone concerning the existence of God.
You will either believe or disbelieve, however one day all will believe and acknowledge God and will confess with the mouth The Lord Jesus Christ.


:heart:



You are correct in asserting that not everyone will believe based on evidence.We only have to look at the deniers of the holocaust to confirm that but as you say some people don't want to believe.However the vast majority accept the reality of the holocaust based on reasonable evidence.One wonders why the vast majority are not swayed by reasonable evidence regarding the existence of God.

"God is not plural for there is only one God" another dogmatic statement which denigrates the many believers in God who do not accept your God.

I agree the basics should be the same but in reality they are not.Christians and Muslims acknowledge the God of Abraham but are not on the same page about the crucifixion and resurrection or life eternal.As for the commandments supposedly written in stone,Christians can't even agree on those.
I also agree that it would be wise to form an opinion on God based on what I have read here.However my opinion is based on sixty years of experience and is not even remotely influenced by anything I have read here.I am puzzled by your statement regarding provision of evidence outside of plain common sense.You may well have provided evidence for the existence of God in posts I have not read but I don't recall any posts that even attempted to provide such evidence but as I stated absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so those posts may exist.

I accept that it is not your job to prove to me regarding the existence of God but I assume that as part of the great commission,part of it would entail proving that your God exists in the first place.I don't accept that believing or disbelieving are the only options,there are many people who declare that there is not enough evidence for them to be confident about their choice.


Sir thank you for your response.

As I have stated before, common sense declares the existence of God.

God Himself has put His existence in your heart.

We are created in His likeness.


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Wed 07/25/18 07:24 AM






It does exist in many people's minds, and in writings, and art, but outside of those places there is no proof of actual existence in the real world.


Bottom line it comes down to faith, but there is ample evidence of the existence of God.



If there is ample evidence for the existence of God then why doesn't everyone believe in God.If as you say the bottom line is that it comes down to faith then there isn't ample evidence.There may be circumstantial evidence which when coupled with faith will satisfy certain people.Even if one accepts that there is a God then whose version of God and what that God possibly requires of us does one accept.I notice that you are involved in several discussions with other believers and there seems to be more dissention than agreement about many things.One would think that after thousands of years of analysis that there would be more consensus among believers regarding the nuts and bolts and how the whole project fits together.It seems to me that many of your statements are very dogmatic and you provide very little evidence to support those statements.Whilst I accept that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,lack of a better explanation is not evidence of the existence of God.


Just because there is ample evidence of the existence of God does not mean that everyone will believe.
Some people just don't want to believe for various reasons.

To exercise or place faith in God does not take away from His existence, in fact it magnifies His existence that much more.

God is not plural , for there is only one God.
He expects and requires the same from everyone according to His Word .
The basics in my opinion should be common sense regarding His commands and testament.

It wouldn't be wise to formulate an opinion about God or believers regarding a dating web site where people disagree about certain subjects regarding God and His Word.
From my experience in life in general many Christians are predominantly on the same page regarding God and His Word, from creation to the crucifixion of Christ and more importantly the resurrection of Christ and life eternal.

As far as you saying that I am dogmatic and provide little evidence for the existence of God shows you know very little about me because I have provided much evidence of the existence of God outside of plain common sense.
You must not have seen those posts.
However it is not my job to prove to you or anyone concerning the existence of God.
You will either believe or disbelieve, however one day all will believe and acknowledge God and will confess with the mouth The Lord Jesus Christ.


:heart:



You are correct in asserting that not everyone will believe based on evidence.We only have to look at the deniers of the holocaust to confirm that but as you say some people don't want to believe.However the vast majority accept the reality of the holocaust based on reasonable evidence.One wonders why the vast majority are not swayed by reasonable evidence regarding the existence of God.

"God is not plural for there is only one God" another dogmatic statement which denigrates the many believers in God who do not accept your God.

I agree the basics should be the same but in reality they are not.Christians and Muslims acknowledge the God of Abraham but are not on the same page about the crucifixion and resurrection or life eternal.As for the commandments supposedly written in stone,Christians can't even agree on those.
I also agree that it would be unwise to form an opinion on God based on what I have read here.However my opinion is based on sixty years of experience and is not even remotely influenced by anything I have read here.I am puzzled by your statement regarding provision of evidence outside of plain common sense.You may well have provided evidence for the existence of God in posts I have not read but I don't recall any posts that even attempted to provide such evidence but as I stated absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so those posts may exist.

I accept that it is not your job to prove to me regarding the existence of God but I assume that as part of the great commission,part of it would entail proving that your God exists in the first place.I don't accept that believing or disbelieving are the only options,there are many people who declare that there is not enough evidence for them to be confident about their choice.


Sir thank you for your response.

As I have stated before, common sense declares the existence of God.

God Himself has put His existence in your heart.

We are created in His likeness.




You can keep restating things as often as you wish but it doesn't alter anything if it is not true.If common sense declares the existence of God then a lot of people are lacking common sense.For me common sense says our very existence is extraordinary and there are many conflicting explanations for that phenomenon.Common sense by definition indicates general consensus.Common sense may say we don't have any definitive explanation for the existence of anything rather than nothing and may proffer God for want of a better answer but I don't see that as a reasonable answer.We really don't know is a more honest answer.
If God himself put awareness of His existence in my heart then He hasn't done a great job.
God has enough problems as things stand without further adding to his problems by saying he created me in His likeness,he needs to have a stern talk with His quality control people.





BlakeIAM's photo
Wed 07/25/18 02:52 PM
Edited by BlakeIAM on Wed 07/25/18 02:54 PM







It does exist in many people's minds, and in writings, and art, but outside of those places there is no proof of actual existence in the real world.


Bottom line it comes down to faith, but there is ample evidence of the existence of God.



If there is ample evidence for the existence of God then why doesn't everyone believe in God.If as you say the bottom line is that it comes down to faith then there isn't ample evidence.There may be circumstantial evidence which when coupled with faith will satisfy certain people.Even if one accepts that there is a God then whose version of God and what that God possibly requires of us does one accept.I notice that you are involved in several discussions with other believers and there seems to be more dissention than agreement about many things.One would think that after thousands of years of analysis that there would be more consensus among believers regarding the nuts and bolts and how the whole project fits together.It seems to me that many of your statements are very dogmatic and you provide very little evidence to support those statements.Whilst I accept that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence,lack of a better explanation is not evidence of the existence of God.


Just because there is ample evidence of the existence of God does not mean that everyone will believe.
Some people just don't want to believe for various reasons.

To exercise or place faith in God does not take away from His existence, in fact it magnifies His existence that much more.

God is not plural , for there is only one God.
He expects and requires the same from everyone according to His Word .
The basics in my opinion should be common sense regarding His commands and testament.

It wouldn't be wise to formulate an opinion about God or believers regarding a dating web site where people disagree about certain subjects regarding God and His Word.
From my experience in life in general many Christians are predominantly on the same page regarding God and His Word, from creation to the crucifixion of Christ and more importantly the resurrection of Christ and life eternal.

As far as you saying that I am dogmatic and provide little evidence for the existence of God shows you know very little about me because I have provided much evidence of the existence of God outside of plain common sense.
You must not have seen those posts.
However it is not my job to prove to you or anyone concerning the existence of God.
You will either believe or disbelieve, however one day all will believe and acknowledge God and will confess with the mouth The Lord Jesus Christ.


:heart:



You are correct in asserting that not everyone will believe based on evidence.We only have to look at the deniers of the holocaust to confirm that but as you say some people don't want to believe.However the vast majority accept the reality of the holocaust based on reasonable evidence.One wonders why the vast majority are not swayed by reasonable evidence regarding the existence of God.

"God is not plural for there is only one God" another dogmatic statement which denigrates the many believers in God who do not accept your God.

I agree the basics should be the same but in reality they are not.Christians and Muslims acknowledge the God of Abraham but are not on the same page about the crucifixion and resurrection or life eternal.As for the commandments supposedly written in stone,Christians can't even agree on those.
I also agree that it would be unwise to form an opinion on God based on what I have read here.However my opinion is based on sixty years of experience and is not even remotely influenced by anything I have read here.I am puzzled by your statement regarding provision of evidence outside of plain common sense.You may well have provided evidence for the existence of God in posts I have not read but I don't recall any posts that even attempted to provide such evidence but as I stated absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so those posts may exist.

I accept that it is not your job to prove to me regarding the existence of God but I assume that as part of the great commission,part of it would entail proving that your God exists in the first place.I don't accept that believing or disbelieving are the only options,there are many people who declare that there is not enough evidence for them to be confident about their choice.


Sir thank you for your response.

As I have stated before, common sense declares the existence of God.

God Himself has put His existence in your heart.

We are created in His likeness.




You can keep restating things as often as you wish but it doesn't alter anything if it is not true.If common sense declares the existence of God then a lot of people are lacking common sense.For me common sense says our very existence is extraordinary and there are many conflicting explanations for that phenomenon.Common sense by definition indicates general consensus.Common sense may say we don't have any definitive explanation for the existence of anything rather than nothing and may proffer God for want of a better answer but I don't see that as a reasonable answer.We really don't know is a more honest answer.
If God himself put awareness of His existence in my heart then He hasn't done a great job.
God has enough problems as things stand without further adding to his problems by saying he created me in His likeness,he needs to have a stern talk with His quality control people.







I repeat certain things over because I believe them to be true and some individuals need them repeated and it is also a form of confirmation.

Common sense does not indicate (by definition as you stated) general consensus whatsoever.

And I stand by my statement that common sense declares the existence of God , because it does.

God has put the knowledge of His existence in your heart. It isn't a matter of Him doing a great job or not (as you stated) . The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it....
Many people need a spiritual heart transplant.

God doesn't have problems as you have stated.

Mankind was created in the likeness of God by God.

A lot of people reject God because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions .
By denying the existence of God in no way takes away from the accountability that we will be held to.


dreamerana's photo
Wed 07/25/18 09:33 PM
Does God exist?
There is no doubt in my mind that God exists.
Is there proof or evidence?
There are many examples every day.
Some more obvious. Some more subtle.

For those who choose not to believe. They will always look for reasons to justify their non belief.

I have seen it happen that even when non believers have witnessed what can only be decribed as a miracle. They try to find reasons for the unexplainable.
But that's hpw it has always been.
Those who lived in the times of Christ witnessed miracles. Yet the world turned a blind eye at the time of his death.

As for me, i believe in God and pray for all of humanity
Believers and non believers.

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Thu 07/26/18 05:49 AM



Posted by Goingforasong

You can keep restating things as often as you wish but it doesn't alter anything if it is not true.If common sense declares the existence of God then a lot of people are lacking common sense.For me common sense says our very existence is extraordinary and there are many conflicting explanations for that phenomenon.Common sense by definition indicates general consensus.Common sense may say we don't have any definitive explanation for the existence of anything rather than nothing and may proffer God for want of a better answer but I don't see that as a reasonable answer.We really don't know is a more honest answer.
If God himself put awareness of His existence in my heart then He hasn't done a great job.
God has enough problems as things stand without further adding to his problems by saying he created me in His likeness,he needs to have a stern talk with His quality control people.







Posted by BlakeIam

I repeat certain things over because I believe them to be true and some individuals need them repeated and it is also a form of confirmation.

Common sense does not indicate (by definition as you stated) general consensus whatsoever.

And I stand by my statement that common sense declares the existence of God , because it does.

God has put the knowledge of His existence in your heart. It isn't a matter of Him doing a great job or not (as you stated) . The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it....
Many people need a spiritual heart transplant.

God doesn't have problems as you have stated.

Mankind was created in the likeness of God by God.

A lot of people reject God because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions .
By denying the existence of God in no way takes away from the accountability that we will be held to.



Believing something to be true does not make it true for anyone except you.If you believe something is true why does it need further confirmation.If it needs confirmation surely this can only come from new evidence or new information.In a previous post you stated that "bottom line it comes down to faith",if there is ample evidence then how is faith required.One doesn't need faith to believe 2+2=4.If there is ample evidence of the existence of God then you don't need faith to believe God exists,yet the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God".Common sense as opposed to specialised knowledge implies that a person of normal intelligence can see and understand something,there is a general consensus with regard to the matter in question,general consensus does not mean unanimity.If there is not general agreement(consensus) on what the evidence represents then how can people come to the same conclusion which in this case,according to you,is that God exists.But as we all know,consensus or even unanimity does not mean truth.If what you say "The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it...." then why does God put knowledge of his existence in peoples heart,it seems destined for failure from your description.If you can't see that my final statement is light hearted,I apologize.Finally why would anyone think denying the existence of God would take away accountability.If I owe the bank money but deny the debt exists it does not take away my accountability,however the bank has to prove the debt is real and that it is my responsibility before they can hold me accountable.

BlakeIAM's photo
Thu 07/26/18 02:03 PM




Posted by Goingforasong

You can keep restating things as often as you wish but it doesn't alter anything if it is not true.If common sense declares the existence of God then a lot of people are lacking common sense.For me common sense says our very existence is extraordinary and there are many conflicting explanations for that phenomenon.Common sense by definition indicates general consensus.Common sense may say we don't have any definitive explanation for the existence of anything rather than nothing and may proffer God for want of a better answer but I don't see that as a reasonable answer.We really don't know is a more honest answer.
If God himself put awareness of His existence in my heart then He hasn't done a great job.
God has enough problems as things stand without further adding to his problems by saying he created me in His likeness,he needs to have a stern talk with His quality control people.







Posted by BlakeIam

I repeat certain things over because I believe them to be true and some individuals need them repeated and it is also a form of confirmation.

Common sense does not indicate (by definition as you stated) general consensus whatsoever.

And I stand by my statement that common sense declares the existence of God , because it does.

God has put the knowledge of His existence in your heart. It isn't a matter of Him doing a great job or not (as you stated) . The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it....
Many people need a spiritual heart transplant.

God doesn't have problems as you have stated.

Mankind was created in the likeness of God by God.

A lot of people reject God because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions .
By denying the existence of God in no way takes away from the accountability that we will be held to.



Believing something to be true does not make it true for anyone except you.If you believe something is true why does it need further confirmation.If it needs confirmation surely this can only come from new evidence or new information.In a previous post you stated that "bottom line it comes down to faith",if there is ample evidence then how is faith required.One doesn't need faith to believe 2+2=4.If there is ample evidence of the existence of God then you don't need faith to believe God exists,yet the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God".Common sense as opposed to specialised knowledge implies that a person of normal intelligence can see and understand something,there is a general consensus with regard to the matter in question,general consensus does not mean unanimity.If there is not general agreement(consensus) on what the evidence represents then how can people come to the same conclusion which in this case,according to you,is that God exists.But as we all know,consensus or even unanimity does not mean truth.If what you say "The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it...." then why does God put knowledge of his existence in peoples heart,it seems destined for failure from your description.If you can't see that my final statement is light hearted,I apologize.Finally why would anyone think denying the existence of God would take away accountability.If I owe the bank money but deny the debt exists it does not take away my accountability,however the bank has to prove the debt is real and that it is my responsibility before they can hold me accountable.


There are many things that I find to be true that many others also find to be true and not because I find them to be true.

Confirmation by "3" is a great learning technique regarding anything.

Ample amounts of evidence of God helps one to place their faith in God.
It isn't blind faith. There is evidence that helps one to place faith in God.

It isn't the way I describe God and His existence that seems destined for failure, it is some not being able nor not wanting to understand God and His existence.

You cannot compare secular accountability with Godly accountability.
That is like trying to mix water and oil.


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Fri 07/27/18 07:20 AM
From Goingforasong
Believing something to be true does not make it true for anyone except you.If you believe something is true why does it need further confirmation.If it needs confirmation surely this can only come from new evidence or new information.In a previous post you stated that "bottom line it comes down to faith",if there is ample evidence then how is faith required.One doesn't need faith to believe 2+2=4.If there is ample evidence of the existence of God then you don't need faith to believe God exists,yet the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God".Common sense as opposed to specialised knowledge implies that a person of normal intelligence can see and understand something,there is a general consensus with regard to the matter in question,general consensus does not mean unanimity.If there is not general agreement(consensus) on what the evidence represents then how can people come to the same conclusion which in this case,according to you,is that God exists.But as we all know,consensus or even unanimity does not mean truth.If what you say "The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it...." then why does God put knowledge of his existence in peoples heart,it seems destined for failure from your description.If you can't see that my final statement is light hearted,I apologize.Finally why would anyone think denying the existence of God would take away accountability.If I owe the bank money but deny the debt exists it does not take away my accountability,however the bank has to prove the debt is real and that it is my responsibility before they can hold me accountable. 

From BlakeIam
There are many things that I find to be true that many others also find to be true and not because I find them to be true. 

Confirmation by "3" is a great learning technique regarding anything. 

Ample amounts of evidence of God helps one to place their faith in God. 
It isn't blind faith. There is evidence that helps one to place faith in God. 

It isn't the way I describe God and His existence that seems destined for failure, it is some not being able nor not wanting to understand God and His existence. 

You cannot compare secular accountability with Godly accountability. 
That is like trying to mix water and oil. 

From Goingforasong

Just because you and many others believe something to be true does not make it true.Not too long ago almost everyone on the planet believed the earth was flat but we now know that was a false belief.
I accept confirmation by "3" is a learning technique but we are discussing confirmation and validation not learning techniques.
I never mentioned blind faith in any post.
I didn't say the way you described God and His existence appear destined for failure.What I did say was that based on your quotation "The heart of man is desperately, deceitfully wicked above all things who can know it...." that God putting the knowledge of his existence in the heart of man seems a strange place to put that knowledge knowing how deceitful the heart of man is.Furthermore if some people are not able to understand how can they be held accountable.
I don't accept that you can't compare secular accountability with Godly accountability.There are many instances in the bible where accountibility for monetary debts are spoken of and I don't see any difference in the type of accounability.Give unto Caesar what he is due and to God what He is due.Although I would question why Jesus would implicitly validate Roman occupation but I am not well versed in the history of that era.
Even though we don't appear to be able to resolve much,I thank you for the time and research you put into your responses.

BlakeIAM's photo
Sat 07/28/18 06:13 AM
Does God exist?
Absolutely!

Philosopher J.S. Mill (not a Christian) summed up where we have now come to:
"It is self-evident that only Mind can create mind."
The only rational and reasonable conclusion is that an eternal Creator is the one who is responsible for reality as we know it.
Or to put it in a logical set of statements:

* Something exists.
* You do not get something from nothing.
* Therefore a neccessary and eternal "something " exists.

* The only two options are an eternal universe and an eternal creator.

* Science and philosophy have disproven the concept of an eternal universe.

* Therefore, an eternal creator exists.

Something to ponder to say the least.

:thumbsup:


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Sat 07/28/18 07:10 AM

Does God exist?
Absolutely!

Philosopher J.S. Mill (not a Christian) summed up where we have now come to:
"It is self-evident that only Mind can create mind."
The only rational and reasonable conclusion is that an eternal Creator is the one who is responsible for reality as we know it.
Or to put it in a logical set of statements:

* Something exists.
* You do not get something from nothing.
* Therefore a neccessary and eternal "something " exists.

* The only two options are an eternal universe and an eternal creator.

* Science and philosophy have disproven the concept of an eternal universe.

* Therefore, an eternal creator exists.

Something to ponder to say the least.

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I have no problem with that,the next step is to determine the nature and attributes of this creator.
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Sat 07/28/18 11:59 AM


Does God exist?
Absolutely!

Philosopher J.S. Mill (not a Christian) summed up where we have now come to:
"It is self-evident that only Mind can create mind."
The only rational and reasonable conclusion is that an eternal Creator is the one who is responsible for reality as we know it.
Or to put it in a logical set of statements:

* Something exists.
* You do not get something from nothing.
* Therefore a neccessary and eternal "something " exists.

* The only two options are an eternal universe and an eternal creator.

* Science and philosophy have disproven the concept of an eternal universe.

* Therefore, an eternal creator exists.

Something to ponder to say the least.

:thumbsup:




I have no problem with that,the next step is to determine the nature and attributes of this creator.
:thumbsup:


Well from the above quoted information one can conclude first and foremost that God is our creator and that we are part of His creation .

Creation, the Bible, and the Word made flesh (Jesus Christ ) will help us to know what God is like.


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Sun 08/05/18 08:05 PM
No.
so so where they came from

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Mon 08/13/18 03:13 PM
I break it down, jump up wherever you are. you come down.
Yell and scream at someone, or be submissive.

you look at the sky. either dark or light.

since two sides for things, then you know there is good and evil.

only someone that does not love life, would hate god. and show it in or her actions.

I looked at some blogs in other articles too about god, they love to put 150 sentences, yet they can not explain and make it hard for anyone to understand. shame on them.



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Sat 08/25/18 03:31 PM
Romans 1:19-21 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honour him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

(In other words, all men know that God exists and those who say he doesn't exist suppress the truth with unrighteousness because they hate God.)

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Thu 09/06/18 07:10 PM


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Well, we all better hope so. Because if you think the world is a mess now, just take God out of peoples minds and see how fast it turns into pure carnage.

People try to stay straight because they have the thought of answering for you time on this planet to a higher power.. their God

If it was ever proven that in fact there is no GOD (S).. well then, see how fast the earth reverts back to a lawless every man for himself place




I recall the world being pretty chaotic when Holy Mother Church was calling the shots.

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