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Topic: " To Take or Not To Take..Our Guns In U.S."
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Tue 11/01/16 03:54 PM
when you hear the 2nd amendment what's come in mind?

A lot of meaningless debate and emotional masturbation as people ejaculate their opinion but is not going to lead to any satisfactory answers or actions.

mankind instincts is always to kill.

Not really.
Mankind's instinct is to reduce stress and negative emotions, which are felt as types of pain, fear.
Run away from what's causing it.
Freeze and stop feeling it.
Fight it enough to make it run away.

At best it might be said mankind's instinct is to kill when there is perceived to be a direct and imminent threat of death with the realization of no alternatives.

People are social animals by nature. Not mass murderers.
If mankind's instinct was always to kill I think most women would be self made widowers and everyone would be living in their own compound living in some sort of mutually assured destruction nomadic tribal state.

when we hunt we kill

We dehumanize the things we kill.
"Their life isn't worth as much as mine. I'm better than that thing. I'm worth more than them." (or derangedly, "I'm going to prove my life is worth more than theirs by killing them."

There would be far more cannibalism if it was just as easy to dehumanize or devalue people as it is fish and cows.
Mmmm, China, it's what's for dinner.

That's part of what happens in military training.
Dehumanize the enemy. Make your people prideful of themselves so they see themselves as worth more.
Where do you think so many racial slurs originate and disseminate from?

If mankind's instinct was always to kill, and with well over 300 million firearms circulating through the population of the U.S.....you'd see a lot more mass shootings, wouldn't you?


EyeAmYourHost39's photo
Wed 11/02/16 04:20 PM
CireTom,


okay.....wow!.....im speechless! in a good way. keep posting buddy.

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/03/16 02:23 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 11/03/16 03:18 PM
1792
Militia Act establishes conscription under federal law


this law actually says every male 18-45 must own a working weapon and have ammo for it

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/militia-act-establishes-conscription-under-federal-law


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on this day in history

by the way this was passed on nov 8th

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/03/16 02:32 PM

Me, personally I don't own a gun and I have never found myself in a situation where a gun would have been handy to have.

I see no reason for AK-47 assault type weapons either, outside of military use. I just don't see any logical reason for anyone to own one.

that being said,

As long as you are a law abiding citizen (in America) you have the right to own and carry arms. That is our law and I respect that.

If I were asked to vote on it, I would vote for the right to own them..as long as you are a law abiding citizen.

JMO





assault weapons are already illegally banned in the united states

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-legal-definition-of-assault-weapon

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/03/16 02:42 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 11/03/16 02:43 PM
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United States v. Miller (No. 696)



The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.. "A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further, that ordinarily, when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

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expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time.

thus fully automatic weapons are legal because they are what are in comman use by the military (which is who will be calling on expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time)

thus any weapon that the military commonly uses should be available
to any one that may be called upon to defend their area in time of need

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https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/307/174

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 11/03/16 02:51 PM
http://www.assaultweapon.info/

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/03/16 04:01 PM

an exert of the act passed Nov 8 1792

The Militia Act of 1792

"""""I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia"""""



the actual act is here


http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792.htm

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