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Topic: Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP) Edorses Trump
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Sat 11/05/16 07:33 AM
Black Leader Endorses Donald Trump: Democrats ‘Ask Us For Everything, Give Nothing Back’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/04/black-leader-endorses-donald-trump-democrats-ask-us-for-everything-give-nothing-back/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social/

The president of the Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP) endorses Donald Trump for president


Rev. William Owens, who is endorsing the Republican candidate as a private citizen, says Trump deserves the chance to prove himself to Christian voters, including those in the black church. He asserts the Democrat Party has offered blacks nothing but failed policies.

Owens is planning to hold a press conference about his decision on Monday in the swing state of Nevada.

He states:

    When I was first called to help others, I began an organization called the “Give Me a Chance Ministry.” Our goal was to provide scholarships, tutoring and mentoring programs to underserved students. One of the keys to that remarkably successful program was the fact that we asked nothing from the university involved other than that they give these students a chance to excel. That is the position that I find myself in today when looking at the best candidate for President. Donald Trump has humbly asked the African American community to give him a chance. After witnessing 50 years of failure from the Democratic Party, compounded by a growing hostility to religion in their platform, I feel that it is definitely time that we give Mr. Trump that chance to prove he can be a great President.

Owens, a black minister who marched with Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the civil rights movement, has launched an ad campaign urging black voters to abandon the failed policies of the Democrat Party.

In an open letter to black voters, Owens states:

    It is time we faced the truth. The policies embraced by the Democrats have failed us for decades. They have destroyed our communities, weakened our families, and doomed us to a future of dependency. What’s more, the Democrats now take our votes for granted and ignore our voices in favor of other interest groups.

“Be honest,” Owens addresses black voters. “Can you really say that Hillary Clinton speaks for you? Or understands the African American experience? We’re told that we should vote for her because … well, because blacks have always voted for Democrats.”

Owens says he came to the realization that his relationship with the Democrats was “completely one-sided.”

“They ask for everything—support, votes, unquestioning loyalty—and give nothing back,” he writes. “If we want to reclaim our power as voters, then African Americans need to demonstrate that we won’t allow ourselves to be used.”

Owens has been a fierce opponent of abortion and same-sex marriage. The black leader has condemned the narrative created by President Barack Obama and former Attorney General Eric Holder that black civil rights is analogous to the agenda to achieve same-sex marriage.

“President Obama is a disgrace to the black community,” Owens told Breitbart News in March of 2015. “He is rewriting history. We didn’t suffer and die for gay marriage. We marched for opportunity, equality, justice, freedom from oppression. We are the true heirs of the civil rights movement.”

CAAP has since launched a new initiative called RISE, a grassroots network that seeks to unite “people of every race, creed, culture, and background,” to focus on defending faith, family, and justice.

Owens cites the issue of Supreme Court appointments as a major factor in his decision to endorse Trump.

“The simple truth is that the next President will appoint at least one Supreme Court justice, thereby shaping this country for decades to come,” he states. “By promising to nominate only constructionist jurists to the Supreme Court, Donald Trump has demonstrated that people of faith can trust him to defend religious freedom and traditional values.”

“On the issue that matters most, Mr. Trump is the only candidate that I could consider voting for,” Owens concludes.
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Read CAAP’s Open Letter | Coalition of African-American Pastors

http://caapusa.org/2016/10/read-caaps-open-letter/
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Black Pastors Coalition Leader: Obama's Comparison of Civil Rights and Gay Marriage Struggles a ‘Disgrace to the Black Community’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/10/black-pastors-coalition-leader-obamas-comparison-of-civil-rights-and-gay-marriage-struggles-a-disgrace-to-the-black-community/



RISE | Coalition of African-American Pastors

http://caapusa.org/membership/rise/

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Sat 11/05/16 07:44 AM
Seriously? Granted, the Democrats have their failings but to endorse this bigot? The world will finally believe that are nuts!

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Sat 11/05/16 07:50 AM
It is time we faced the truth. The policies embraced by the Democrats have failed us for decades. They have destroyed our communities, weakened our families, and doomed us to a future of dependency. What’s more, the Democrats now take our votes for granted and ignore our voices in favor of other interest groups.

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Good man

He is speaking the truth. Just take a look at Chicago. What have the Dems actually done for the black community?.. what?

Nothing. And the Dem's feel that the black vote is a gimme, so they ignore them.. thinking that vote is already in their pocket.

In the last 8 years how has the black community actually benefited from the Dems........?

They really need to stop and ask themselves that question.



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Sat 11/05/16 08:42 AM
And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.

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Sat 11/05/16 08:49 AM

And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.


whoa Chilling with PROGRESSIVE HEATHENS ?

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Sat 11/05/16 09:49 AM

And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.



Abbreviation
CAAP

Formation
April 1993

Purpose
"Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage."

Headquarters
Memphis, Tennessee


Membership
3,000+[1]


President
Rev. Williams Owens

Website
caapusa.org


Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I.

But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at.

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Sat 11/05/16 11:29 AM

It is time we faced the truth. The policies embraced by the Democrats have failed us for decades. They have destroyed our communities, weakened our families, and doomed us to a future of dependency. What’s more, the Democrats now take our votes for granted and ignore our voices in favor of other interest groups.

____________________________________________________________________

Good man

He is speaking the truth. Just take a look at Chicago. What have the Dems actually done for the black community?.. what?

Nothing. And the Dem's feel that the black vote is a gimme, so they ignore them.. thinking that vote is already in their pocket.

In the last 8 years how has the black community actually benefited from the Dems........?

They really need to stop and ask themselves that question.






why stop at 8 years? why not 10 or 12 or 50?

truth is neither party specifically 'aids' black people , due to how that would elicit screams of 'preferential ' treatment or 'reverse' discrimination

its no longer acceptable to say N word, but its sure ok to imply it with imagery and buzz words like state rights or forced bussing, or entitlement,, favorite topics amongst republicans when talking about what to 'cut' and what to 'take back'



and with the bigotry republican representatives continuously spout against the impoverished, blacks, and Mexicans,,,,its a wonder any of them would feel secure in casting a vote for those same representatives,,,

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Sat 11/05/16 11:34 AM


And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.



Abbreviation
CAAP

Formation
April 1993

Purpose
"Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage."

Headquarters
Memphis, Tennessee


Membership
3,000+[1]


President
Rev. Williams Owens

Website
caapusa.org


Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I.

But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at.




agreed

3000 in 23 years is not very much, most who aren't local probably never heard of them



actually, directing messages to the flock is about 90 percent of what happens every election



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Sat 11/05/16 11:36 AM
free speech is a national treasure

its not a matter of liking or disliking anything

I actually agreed that the group is speaking to their flock,,,as do most groups during election years

not sure how that's interpreting me not liking anyone

and I do use the N word, but not where I have been told its offensive and there are so many different ways for me to express myself with the English language than to knowingly choose whats offensive language to the listener/reader

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Sat 11/05/16 11:42 AM
And by the way, according to you if is perfectly fine to use the "N" word... you do ;)

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Sat 11/05/16 12:19 PM

free speech is a national treasure

its not a matter of liking or disliking anything

I actually agreed that the group is speaking to their flock,,,as do most groups during election years

not sure how that's interpreting me not liking anyone

and I do use the N word, but not where I have been told its offensive and there are so many different ways for me to express myself with the English language than to knowingly choose whats offensive language to the listener/reader


Well good for you. way to keep that word circulating.. good job. (You have to be told its offensive and where not to say it?.. really?? )

And it was interpreted that you didn't agree with them because you downplayed their numbers.. thus discounting them.

3,000 members is not a small club.

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Sat 11/05/16 12:34 PM
it is a small club unless its only for locals

if its for national membership, having only 3000 in nearly thirty years is only 100 a year, nationally

there is nothing wrong with small groups, again,, just a fact about the numbers


and I don't 'have' to be told but if I am told I make sure to avoid the word

I also can discern without being told by the context of who is speaking about what and what language THEY are using


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Sat 11/05/16 12:40 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sat 11/05/16 12:41 PM


And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.



Abbreviation
CAAP

Formation
April 1993

Purpose
"Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage."

Headquarters
Memphis, Tennessee


Membership
3,000+[1]


President
Rev. Williams Owens

Website
caapusa.org


Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I.

But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at.



Yep. 3,000 (PROTESTANT) PASTORS plus FLOCKS. (I haven't checked other Christian denominations... yet) :laughing:

Considering than Black Americans are 11%-15% of the population & mostly
(Methodist & Baptist) PROTESTANT.

That is a huge demographic, when it comes to voting.

And of course... most Americans are Protestant.




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Sat 11/05/16 12:42 PM

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Sat 11/05/16 01:06 PM



And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.



Abbreviation
CAAP

Formation
April 1993

Purpose
"Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage."

Headquarters
Memphis, Tennessee


Membership
3,000+[1]


President
Rev. Williams Owens

Website
caapusa.org


Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I.

But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at.




agreed

3000 in 23 years is not very much, most who aren't local probably never heard of them



actually, directing messages to the flock is about 90 percent of what happens every election




that's 3,000 Pastors,a pretty sizable Crowd they do represent!

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Sat 11/05/16 01:20 PM



And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.



Abbreviation
CAAP

Formation
April 1993

Purpose
"Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage."

Headquarters
Memphis, Tennessee


Membership
3,000+[1]


President
Rev. Williams Owens

Website
caapusa.org


Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I.

But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at.



Yep. 3,000 (PROTESTANT) PASTORS plus FLOCKS. (I haven't checked other Christian denominations... yet) :laughing:

Considering than Black Americans are 11%-15% of the population & mostly
(Methodist & Baptist) PROTESTANT.

That is a huge demographic, when it comes to voting.

And of course... most Americans are Protestant.







its the same demographic it has been for the 22 years prior to this election that they have existed

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Sat 11/05/16 01:50 PM



And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why?

Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction.



Abbreviation
CAAP

Formation
April 1993

Purpose
"Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage."

Headquarters
Memphis, Tennessee


Membership
3,000+[1]


President
Rev. Williams Owens

Website
caapusa.org


Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I.

But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at.




agreed

3000 in 23 years is not very much, most who aren't local probably never heard of them



actually, directing messages to the flock is about 90 percent of what happens every election





3000 black pastors each with a flock...... not bad

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Sat 11/05/16 01:57 PM
individuals with individual views , and not unilateral,, as demonstrated in their move for a 'pledge':



Although Owens claims his organization represents 3,742 African-American pastors, CAAP’s influence appears to be pretty limited. The organization doesn’t speak on behalf of any religious denomination, and its sole mission appears to be to attack Obama and other black leaders who support marriage equality.

As Right Wing Watch recently pointed out, CAAP’s effort to collect 100,000 signatures for its anti-marriage equality pledge had barely mustered more than a thousand signatures by May (over three times less than the number of CAAP’s members).

http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201208080002

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Sat 11/05/16 02:01 PM
Even, if only a "mere" 3,000+ pastors...
AND,
'IF', the average congregation, is "only"
10 - 100 members?

That's still, 30,000 to 300,000 VOTERS,
the message is reaching. PLUS, all of their
families and friends.


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Sat 11/05/16 02:07 PM

Even, if only a "mere" 3,000+ pastors...
AND,
'IF', the average congregation, is "only"
10 - 100 members?

That's still, 30,000 to 300,000 VOTERS,
the message is reaching. PLUS, all of their
families and friends.






pastors dont preach about politics

congregations go to learn about the bible, not politics
congregations have individuals, with different politica interests

conservatives are listening as they always have
liberals arent swayed





they are as persuasive as they have ever been, and they have been around almost three decades

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