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Topic: never call the police to "help" a family member...
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Wed 03/22/17 03:55 PM
they was a guy a few years ago in Brooklyn who walking into a shop and stabbed a guy ( stranger) in the head. The cops show up immediately see a guy holding a knife standing over another bloodied up guy.

They order him to drop the knife.. he doesn't.. they then shot and killed him

Good job.. right?

they (and the NYPD) caught HELL for it from the bleeding heart communities who stated that the guy was mentally unstable and couldn't be responsible for what he was doing and that the cops were wrong in shooting him.

Cops are not social workers.. they are cops trained to STOP people from hurting or killing other people. To protect those who are being hurt. TO STOP THE ASSAULT FROM CONTINUING

STABLE OR UNSTABLE you do stuff like that... you are going to be shot...and that IS justified...period.




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Wed 03/22/17 04:19 PM

I come from a military and cop family/friends. Someone comes at them with a weapon, after a taser won't bring them down, will get shot. I am sorry that man lost his life but getting him help is the family's responsibility. Those called in shouldn't have to be harmed for that. This man was unstable and out of control. The problem with shoot to injure vs shoot to kill is....the injured can still throw a knife, whatever and kill someonee.....not too mention the poor me law suits to pay someone for bad actions. The cops did what they had to. When someone has adrenaline pumping like crazy, they can withstand a lot. If someone came at me or my loved ones (regardless of training) I will use force. These cops put their lives out there and have loved ones too that they want to see again

Don't get me started on the profiling bs

I would have to say this is most logical. My thoughts exactly.

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Fri 03/24/17 08:22 PM


protect and serve at its best

but hey if anyone goes at anyone else with a deadly weapon they deserve
what they get

that said the family has some responsibility here as well

they knew he had a disorder someone should have been on top of the situation
obviously if he had no meds that came on at a gradual time frame who was
checking on his meds obviously he was not able to be able to do so on his
own or he would not of run out

just a thought

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Sat 03/25/17 11:12 PM
What few want to remember is parents have little or no power to force a child or dependent adult to take medication or control their behavior by physically restraining or corporally punishing a person even if their behavior is disruptive and or menaceing until it is an immanent threat to self or others. Many families are intimidated and often overwhelmed especially when there are conflicting opinions within the family.
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You also can not just go pick up mental health medications with out patient participation in frequent expensive basic evaluations, blood work, and even the application for reimbursements. If the patient doesn't allow you to talk to the doctor your not involved. And patients often secretly abuse substances and create damage or theft of personal property . Not to mention make homelife chaotic 25/8/365.

Since the Only access to a psychiatric bed in this community is through a ER evaluation one way or another the patient must go willingly or be arrested to be involuntarily 51-50ed. Even if the patient asks for inpatient it may not be offered or qualify for reimbursement. If they
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Become compliant even if it is because they become tired or distracted from their current episode they may be discharged and put on a wait list for the next available appointment that can be weeks away.

Then they are discharged to the curb to get home the best way they can; if they even want to go home. The ambulance nor the police transport them. Nor does mass transit and they do refuse to if this person is or has been disruptive.

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Sun 03/26/17 10:18 AM

The family of a mentally ill man in the throes of an "episode" called 911 seeking medication for the young man. Police in northern California responded with excessive force, killing the 25-year old amid at least 10 gunshots, the family and neighbors say.

Desmond Phillips, 25, a Sacramento native, was killed by police officers with the Chico (California) Police Department on March 17. The officers forced their way into the apartment of Desmond's father, David, believing Desmond posed a threat to family members, according to reports.

As he had done twice in the past, David Phillips Sr., Desmond's father, contacted local paramedics to help his son access medication, the family said, as Desmond has a mental disorder and was acting erratically, local news outlets have reported.

"My dad called the ambulance to come take him to the hospital so they could get him some medication," David Phillips Jr., Desmond's brother, told KTXL, adding that the encounter "should've been handled way different. They didn't have to pull out their guns."

The Chico Police Department said Desmond was "hostile" to first responders with the Chico Fire Department who initially responded to the scene, at Desmond's father's home. Police officers were then dispatched to the home. They reported that Desmond was "pacing in a small living room area and was seen holding two knives," Chico police Chief Michael O'Brien said, according to KTXL. David Phillips Jr. said Desmond was holding a butter knife and a smaller knife used to cut vegetables, according to KRCR.

Desmond's father and two grandchildren, ages 18 and 12, were reportedly locked inside one or multiple bedrooms in the home, according to KRCR. Police said Desmond was trying to break into a room, and that officers acted to protect the family members. Desmond was also attempting to keep officers out of the home by shutting the front door on them, KTXL reported. Police eventually forced their way into the apartment, KRCR reported.

One officer first tased Desmond, according to O'Brien. "Before a second taser deployment could occur, the subject jumped to his feet and started to slash at the officers," he said. These alleged "slashes" prompted the officers to open fire. Desmond's father said the incident escalated quickly.

"Tase, this cop 'boom, boom, boom, boom, boom! And I said, 'what the hell are you doing?! You just killed my son!" David Phillips Sr. said, according to KRCR. Witnesses said they heard at least 10 rounds fired; two bullets entered into a neighbor's apartment, KRCR reported.

Desmond's brother said Desmond was not a threat to anyone, including his family members. "He was not a threat to my dad or my nephews at all, I don't know why the hell the police would say that but, no," David Phillips Jr. said, according to KTXL. He added: The officers "obviously seen that he's not in his right mind."

The officers involved have been placed on paid administrative leave while the Butte County District Attorney investigates the killing, KRCR reported.

The family, meanwhile, is furious. "You don't put 10-12 bullets in somebody because they have a mental disability, you're supposed to help them," David Sr. told KRCR. "That's what I called them for, to help him. Not to kill him. I didn't call y'all here to kill my son!"

The family has contacted the NAACP for assistance. They have also set up a GoFundMe page to pay for Desmond's funeral expenses. "He's got a gunshot hole in his face this big, they murdered him," Desmond's father said, according to KRCR.

"He doesn't have any criminal record, you don't have anything on him! He was mental, man and that means you guys should have had extra care," David Phillips Sr. said of his son and the officers who responded to the scene.

Neighbors agreed the police response was excessive. "Definitely seems like an excessive amount of police force was used," neighbor Nick Bragg told KRCR. "I definitely think they could have resolved this issue without having to kill this individual."

Andrew Perlinger, another neighbor, told KRCR he was grateful he was not home at the time, as it was his apartment in which two of the bullets entered.

The family held a vigil for Desmond Sunday evening, according to KRCR.

http://www.rt.com/usa/381505-chico-police-desmond-phillips/


Many of you don't know this but you haven't seen me on here for a couple weeks. That's because a week and a half ago I tried to end everything and I stopped breathing. The Sheriff's Arrived on scene before the paramedics and if they wouldn't have begun CPR, I wouldn't be on here talking to you guys right now.

One bad incident doesn't ruin all of the good they do.

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