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Topic: Accepting Your Mate's Shortcomings & How To Cope
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Thu 03/30/17 05:56 PM

For Tomforuhere ...

I agree that the issue of incompatability might be the bigger problem at hand here

peggy122, its been a few days and I'm not ignoring your topic I just have nothing helpful to add. The few dates I have had since I actually had a mate dissolved because of the incompatabilities I couldn't or wouldn't accept in my life. I never asked them to change for me. I acknowledged them for who they were and rejected them. I am still friends with all but not in that special way.



You are free to add or not add as many or as few poats as you like tom. It's nice to see you either way :)

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Thu 03/30/17 06:05 PM
Edited by peggy122 on Thu 03/30/17 06:07 PM

It depends upon the relationship. If we are only dating or boyfriend/girlfriend type of thing, than its a bad sign IF they are not willing to make compromises. I am at a point where I have been along long enough that Im not eager to just settle.

If we have already committed in marriage, than 'better or worse' has to mean something, unless it is a situation where the life or health of myself or loved ones are in danger.


I agree MsH. this is a very subjective topic, Everyone has to define their own priorities , boundaries, negotiables and non negotiables.

And you added an important variable which I hadn't considered ie the status of dating vs marriage. In the dating phase, Im screening out the people who dont inspire me to love PHENOMENALLY love

By the time Im married, I already belief this person is worth a certain degree of compromise, as long as the compromise does not involve my health, safety , values and self worth

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Thu 03/30/17 06:20 PM


Im actually not sure how to phrase this question , so please bear with me if I am not clear enough.flowerforyou

Could you accept a mate who refuses to work on their shortcomings? I know there are detrimental things that are almost impossible to cope with in the longterm eg emotional or physical abuse, unfaithfulness, dishonesty, poor money management, or unhealthy vices eg drug abuse, gambling, etc . I am NOT referring to those things.


I am asking if you have the capacity to accept/tolerate less chronic but still challenging conditions like your mate being a workaholic, or someone who doesnt stand up for you when inlaws are disrespectful, or someone who doesnt help around the house, or someone who is excessively messy/disorganised, or someone who is poor at communicating their feelings or desires, or who shuts down or gets reclusive during stress or conflict etc , who is cheap or who participates but who shows no initiative, or even someone who doesnt make the effort you would like in looking their best.

Can you accept any of those kinds of shortcomings in your mate if they never changed?

If you can accept it, how do you cope with it?

And I know this is a weird question, but if you can't tolerate any of the above conditions, what shortcomings can you tolerate or accept?


..hmmm... shortcomings..
Is that like premature ejaculation in any way...lol...jk.. could not help myself..oops. . Okay this is going to get really hard to get off of this one..omg...stop it.lol...

Okay but seriously..lol..
For the longest time.. I just put up with my partners shortcomings..
I would let her know that such things bothered me about her..
And if maybe she could work on them..

And for a week or two things would change become a little better..
But then she would just slip back into her same old ways...
So I put my head down shake it slightly back and forth.. and just carry on with .. holding out hope that someday she would change..
Work on her shortcomings...
If not for me but for the sake of the children...hmmmm... but then there came a point when I realized it's never going to change.... so here I am now footloose and fancy-free...lol... and that's why I look for someone's shortcomings from the very start...
People Are People very hard to change..them.. unless they are enlightened and are always looking to improve themselves... much like myself...hmmm... I guess all I need to do is find a female version of me..lol...
Omg.. I want to date my sister..lol.. I'm just kidding about that part...lol


If a person's flaw outweighs all the positive things about them, then they are weak in an area that you deem fundamental to your welfare and happiness. It makes total sense to me that you would let a romantic prospect like that go.

What I will add though, is that we, who are quick to find faults in our mates, are not as easy to deal with as we like to believe. Ideally we need partners who can put up with our crap as we do the same for them, And Im speaking in general here doc, and to myself as well :)

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Thu 03/30/17 06:27 PM

Minor shortcomings are acceptable, no lies, no deceits of any form whatsoever, and one can just communicate with another the things you dislike much and if he cares how you feel then he would try to correct it to have a smooth relationship. It's just a matter of communication and right reasoning. If he just couldn't change and my love can overpower such shortcoming then it's just fine I guess, I'll just have to live with it until maybe someday he himself will realize and correct it by himself smile2


Yeah Twin. There are some people who inspire us to love them in the most profound ways. We wont compromise our self worth, values or health/safety, but we are inspired by them enough to look past their major flaw in favor of their attributes. This cant work for everyone obviously. To each, his own :)

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Thu 03/30/17 06:30 PM

Relationships are not Do It Yourself projects where you take a real person and revamp the person into what you want.

If you don't like someone how they are then get out and go on to what you do want.

Clearly what you are describing is someone I would not consider but I see people do it all the time. But then I see people also pick their poison every day.


In general I agree with you Pstar, but one major flaw does not necessarily equate a bad relationship, but if it does, then it makes sense to leave .

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Thu 03/30/17 06:31 PM

^^^^^^^^^

This.


My response for you Mptown, is similar to the one I gave to Pstar

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Thu 03/30/17 06:33 PM

Depends


Welcome to the forum Meganmarie :)

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Mon 04/17/17 05:06 PM
Edited by PacificStar48 on Mon 04/17/17 05:16 PM
I was thinking about this after observing some couples this weekend.
In various situations and locations.

What I saw was all people have different thresholds of what they will and can't tolerate.

Knowing your own truths going into a relationship will have a lot to do with what you will be able to look past and what will drive you right over the edge sooner or later.

What is always more obvious in family settings is if you really don't like how someone's parents or siblings behave in a few years ahead that is likely what you are looking forward too.

It is easy to let stuff pass in the flush of passion or even relief of finally escaping "singledom" which Still has great stigma and is harder than surviving as a more or less functioning partnership.

This seems to be particularly true when family pressure is applied but I doubt that is the only pressure.

Sadly many children are often stuck in broken relationships when it is well past in their best interest. Or never was in the first place.

What was glaringly obvious to me was how ineffectual many people are at communicating by words or actions how they felt about things to others were doing.

Specifically re-enforceing the behavior they wanted with praise, respect, hospitality, and attention.

And making poor behavior clearly known as unacceptable by saying so FIRST on a discreet level and if necessary in a more public way. If possible by not making a big drama out of it. Some people sole goal is to be as obnoxious as they can get away with. And when people keep peace at all costs they actually make themselves part of the problem.

Or doing it round about by talking behind the "offenders" back so they "hear it" later; usually when it is bundled with other beefs and to late to do better. This is particularly unfair to children but happens a lot.

What was really obvious that negative re-enforcement almost always made the behavior worse.

As did what is sometimes misunderstood as positive re-enforcement when people laugh at, ignore, or even temporarily endure poor behavior and later never tell the offender why they ate excluded.
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Mon 04/17/17 08:31 PM
i do think there are no perfect relationships it would just be two imperfect people doing their best to stay together for the major reason that the happiness the relationship brings outweighs all the flaws and issues that at most times never goes away.think

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