Topic: Sanctuary cities?
msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:31 AM


I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion


mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:32 AM

I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





whats the dumb law? liberals( or blacks) have the right to decide which laws are dumb and don't need to be followed? kinda like the election, huh... done fair and square, and a liberal should be in charge because "you didn't like the outcome?"

you far lefters are outa control...

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:33 AM



I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them

no photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:46 AM
I just hired 10 refugees from 7 different parts of the world. Great people.. really nice.
I hired them thru a religious organization that helps new AMERICANS find housing, jobs and start their new life

Each spent a average of 1 1/2 years in a refugee center going thru the correct way to become a American. The LEGAL way

So what are we telling these people who did it the right way when we allow ILLEGAL aliens to live here.

what are we telling them?.

yellowrose's friend should be pissed off, they did it right.. while others just walk in.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:47 AM

I just hired 10 refugees from 7 different parts of the world. Great people.. really nice.
I hired them thru a religious organization that helps new AMERICANS find housing, jobs and start their new life

Each spent a average of 1 1/2 years in a refugee center going thru the correct way to become a American. The LEGAL way

So what are we telling these people who did it the right way when we allow ILLEGAL aliens to live here.

what are we telling them?.

yellowrose's friend should be pissed off, they did it right.. while others just walk in.


Exactly! They followed the laws!

Hell even criminals (citizens) can't profit off of their crimes

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:48 AM


I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





whats the dumb law? liberals( or blacks) have the right to decide which laws are dumb and don't need to be followed? kinda like the election, huh... done fair and square, and a liberal should be in charge because "you didn't like the outcome?"

you far lefters are outa control...


actually, no, EVERYONE has a right to have an OPINION

choose logic over emotionalism,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:49 AM




I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them


I am under no delusion about any of those points.
I only stated my OPINION about dumb laws, which is probably why there is the potential for them to CHANGE.

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:51 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 04/01/17 10:52 AM

I just hired 10 refugees from 7 different parts of the world. Great people.. really nice.
I hired them thru a religious organization that helps new AMERICANS find housing, jobs and start their new life

Each spent a average of 1 1/2 years in a refugee center going thru the correct way to become a American. The LEGAL way

So what are we telling these people who did it the right way when we allow ILLEGAL aliens to live here.

what are we telling them?.

yellowrose's friend should be pissed off, they did it right.. while others just walk in.


I am no stranger to the immigration process, if you recall my ex and I spent THREE years doing it 'the right way'

and obtaining refugee status is an entirely different process

but some people have situations of too much despair to foresee waiting THREE YEARS for the process to work for them, not to mention, the financial requirements to get approval which many obviously dont have or they would not be coming here for opportunities,,,

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:52 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Sat 04/01/17 10:53 AM





I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them


I am under no delusion about any of those points.
I only stated my OPINION about dumb laws, which is probably why there is the potential for them to CHANGE.


Just as others state opinions but some how you argue it.

I think it is dumb. My opinion. The laws (facts) say they are illegal

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

Btw...those people can apply for work or student visas like my friend and his family

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:54 AM
So here is my point....these cities are harboring illegals so why should they get state or federal money?

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 10:58 AM






I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them


I am under no delusion about any of those points.
I only stated my OPINION about dumb laws, which is probably why there is the potential for them to CHANGE.


Just as others state opinions but some how you argue it.

I think it is dumb. My opinion. The laws (facts) say they are illegal

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

Btw...those people can apply for work or student visas like my friend and his family


they can apply, but its very slim chance they can get approved, as most work visas require either an employer to already be sponsoring or that there be a lack of American workers for the job


msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:00 AM

So here is my point....these cities are harboring illegals so why should they get state or federal money?


Because there is no city where crime doesn't happen. Harboring is a crime because Individuals or entities harbor should not make the entire city of citizens culpable.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:00 AM







I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them


I am under no delusion about any of those points.
I only stated my OPINION about dumb laws, which is probably why there is the potential for them to CHANGE.


Just as others state opinions but some how you argue it.

I think it is dumb. My opinion. The laws (facts) say they are illegal

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

Btw...those people can apply for work or student visas like my friend and his family


they can apply, but its very slim chance they can get approved, as most work visas require either an employer to already be sponsoring or that there be a lack of American workers for the job




Then they can wait. Other countries enforce their immigration laws but don't have the mass problem we do

mightymoe's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:04 AM








I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them


I am under no delusion about any of those points.
I only stated my OPINION about dumb laws, which is probably why there is the potential for them to CHANGE.


Just as others state opinions but some how you argue it.

I think it is dumb. My opinion. The laws (facts) say they are illegal

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

Btw...those people can apply for work or student visas like my friend and his family


they can apply, but its very slim chance they can get approved, as most work visas require either an employer to already be sponsoring or that there be a lack of American workers for the job




Then they can wait. Other countries enforce their immigration laws but don't have the mass problem we do


other countries don't have the ignorant self serving liberals like we do... cept maybe Germany, Merkle is an obillary clone...

no photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:07 AM


I just hired 10 refugees from 7 different parts of the world. Great people.. really nice.
I hired them thru a religious organization that helps new AMERICANS find housing, jobs and start their new life

Each spent a average of 1 1/2 years in a refugee center going thru the correct way to become a American. The LEGAL way

So what are we telling these people who did it the right way when we allow ILLEGAL aliens to live here.

what are we telling them?.

yellowrose's friend should be pissed off, they did it right.. while others just walk in.


I am no stranger to the immigration process, if you recall my ex and I spent THREE years doing it 'the right way'

and obtaining refugee status is an entirely different process

but some people have situations of too much despair to foresee waiting THREE YEARS for the process to work for them, not to mention, the financial requirements to get approval which many obviously dont have or they would not be coming here for opportunities,,,


So they have too much despair?. I have people here who were in legitimate fear for their life.. who came with.. nothing but the clothes on their back. is that not despair

So they "Can't" wait ?.. and that somehow now becomes our problem?... why?

So they then sneak in our country.. undocumented.. not vetted.. just walk in to do as they please.

And the 200,000 of them in our prisons... it was o.k. for them to waltz in.. undocumented.. not vetted. right?... nice neighbors they turned out to be.

That may be o.k. in your mind...not mine.

Want to hear something very non PC.?

ya can't wait to do it the right way, then stay the F out.. go pull that s**t with England.


no photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:10 AM
Illegal children can qualify for Medicaid and other welfare whether they are born here or not. Medicaid also pays for children's dental so thousands of illegal children got free braces for their teeth and the dentist billed medicaid for it. It cost the state millions of dollars just on braces.
Another scam on a system that was intended to provide basic medical care for children.

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:11 AM








I agree, one breaking a law, especially a dumb one, should be willing to make the sacrifice of the potential fines or incarceration,,,





Being illegally here is dumb. They should be deported, not incarcerated because our taxpayers pay for that


there was a time when a slave running away was dumb, and it cost the 'taxpayers' money at that time too,,, lol

laws that treat people as criminal for just wanting to an opportunity to earn the basic necessities and not causing physical harm, are dumb, in my opinion




Laws change through history. We don't burn witches here do we?

They are illegal! My best friend in high school hates it because him and hia family came from Mexici LEGALLY! They are now citizens

Like it or not, it's the law and these cities harbor them


I am under no delusion about any of those points.
I only stated my OPINION about dumb laws, which is probably why there is the potential for them to CHANGE.


Just as others state opinions but some how you argue it.

I think it is dumb. My opinion. The laws (facts) say they are illegal

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.

Btw...those people can apply for work or student visas like my friend and his family


they can apply, but its very slim chance they can get approved, as most work visas require either an employer to already be sponsoring or that there be a lack of American workers for the job




Then they can wait. Other countries enforce their immigration laws but don't have the mass problem we do


that is only due to geography

other countries basically are closer together on a continental landmass and allow travel freely between the countries the way we do between states

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:14 AM



I just hired 10 refugees from 7 different parts of the world. Great people.. really nice.
I hired them thru a religious organization that helps new AMERICANS find housing, jobs and start their new life

Each spent a average of 1 1/2 years in a refugee center going thru the correct way to become a American. The LEGAL way

So what are we telling these people who did it the right way when we allow ILLEGAL aliens to live here.

what are we telling them?.

yellowrose's friend should be pissed off, they did it right.. while others just walk in.


I am no stranger to the immigration process, if you recall my ex and I spent THREE years doing it 'the right way'

and obtaining refugee status is an entirely different process

but some people have situations of too much despair to foresee waiting THREE YEARS for the process to work for them, not to mention, the financial requirements to get approval which many obviously dont have or they would not be coming here for opportunities,,,


So they have too much despair?. I have people here who were in legitimate fear for their life.. who came with.. nothing but the clothes on their back. is that not despair

So they "Can't" wait ?.. and that somehow now becomes our problem?... why?

So they then sneak in our country.. undocumented.. not vetted.. just walk in to do as they please.

And the 200,000 of them in our prisons... it was o.k. for them to waltz in.. undocumented.. not vetted. right?... nice neighbors they turned out to be.

That may be o.k. in your mind...not mine.

Want to hear something very non PC.?

ya can't wait to do it the right way, then stay the F out.. go pull that s**t with England.




understandable, that is the reason for refugee status, those who are fleeing GREAT Desperation from somewhere else, an EXTREME

however, people don't let their families starve gracefully, and many of those starving don't fit guidelines of having an 'extreme' enough situation but still recognize that without basics, it can take alot less time than three years to end up dead


the way we treat the most desperate amongst us, should be our problem, not as Americans, but decent human beings,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:17 AM

Illegal children can qualify for Medicaid and other welfare whether they are born here or not. Medicaid also pays for children's dental so thousands of illegal children got free braces for their teeth and the dentist billed medicaid for it. It cost the state millions of dollars just on braces.
Another scam on a system that was intended to provide basic medical care for children.


false , undocumented immigrants are not eligible

you may be confusing undocumented with non citizen,,


these services are highly regulated and keep and require identifying documents for eligiblity

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/01/17 11:18 AM




I just hired 10 refugees from 7 different parts of the world. Great people.. really nice.
I hired them thru a religious organization that helps new AMERICANS find housing, jobs and start their new life

Each spent a average of 1 1/2 years in a refugee center going thru the correct way to become a American. The LEGAL way

So what are we telling these people who did it the right way when we allow ILLEGAL aliens to live here.

what are we telling them?.

yellowrose's friend should be pissed off, they did it right.. while others just walk in.


I am no stranger to the immigration process, if you recall my ex and I spent THREE years doing it 'the right way'

and obtaining refugee status is an entirely different process

but some people have situations of too much despair to foresee waiting THREE YEARS for the process to work for them, not to mention, the financial requirements to get approval which many obviously dont have or they would not be coming here for opportunities,,,


So they have too much despair?. I have people here who were in legitimate fear for their life.. who came with.. nothing but the clothes on their back. is that not despair

So they "Can't" wait ?.. and that somehow now becomes our problem?... why?

So they then sneak in our country.. undocumented.. not vetted.. just walk in to do as they please.

And the 200,000 of them in our prisons... it was o.k. for them to waltz in.. undocumented.. not vetted. right?... nice neighbors they turned out to be.

That may be o.k. in your mind...not mine.

Want to hear something very non PC.?

ya can't wait to do it the right way, then stay the F out.. go pull that s**t with England.




understandable, that is the reason for refugee status, those who are fleeing GREAT Desperation from somewhere else, an EXTREME

however, people don't let their families starve gracefully, and many of those starving don't fit guidelines of having an 'extreme' enough situation but still recognize that without basics, it can take alot less time than three years to end up dead


the way we treat the most desperate amongst us, should be our problem, not as Americans, but decent human beings,,


And look at what those other countries are going through. They are STARTING to feel the burn.

As a decent human being (unlike the rest of us who are low lives lol) harbor them at you house. See how well you do with funding, raids etc